Axiom XST in the US?

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Numan - 15 Aug 2005 16:40 GMT

Does anyone know if they plan on releasing this or not?
I think a 4 door, diesel would do really well, especially
after clean diesel is released.

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miles - 19 Aug 2005 01:18 GMT

Right now Isuzu isn't making any vehicles for the US. Axiom production
was halted in 2004 as was the Rodeo and Trooper. Only thing I know they
are planning on bringing to the USA is a truck. Diesels aren't sold
that much in the USA in passenger cars. I believe it's because of
emmisions regulations. Also, diesel fuel has become costly.

> Does anyone know if they plan on releasing this or not?
> I think a 4 door, diesel would do really well, especially
> after clean diesel is released.

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Wesley - 19 Aug 2005 03:35 GMT

The Trooper's last year was 2002...but from what I've seen it lasted at
least another year overseas (namely Australia, probably others). :-(

I noticed this week that the local Isuzu dealership has gotten in 3 of the
new pickups. Haven't stopped to take a look...

I'm not sure what's up with the whole diesel in the USA thing...I don't
think it's anything to do with emissions. I think it's mainly a public
image thing - folks here think of diesels as being noisy, dirty, etc. Jeep
is offering a diesel in their Liberty this year, supposedly with better gas
mileage. Depending on what it is, it would likely make up the $0.10
difference between regular unleaded and diesel... I believe I would have at
least seriously considered a diesel in our 2002 Trooper had it been an
option...

Wesley

> Right now Isuzu isn't making any vehicles for the US. Axiom production
> was halted in 2004 as was the Rodeo and Trooper. Only thing I know they
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> > I think a 4 door, diesel would do really well, especially
> > after clean diesel is released.

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miles - 20 Aug 2005 01:13 GMT

The reviews of the new Liberty have not been very good. Reports are
that the engine is very weak. Here in Arizona diesel is about the same
or slightly higher priced than premium. Odd since the refining costs
are far lower than that of gasoline.

> The Trooper's last year was 2002...but from what I've seen it lasted at
> least another year overseas (namely Australia, probably others). :-(
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>>>I think a 4 door, diesel would do really well, especially
>>>after clean diesel is released.

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JR - 19 Aug 2005 04:33 GMT

And why aren't diesels "sold that much in the USA in passenger cars"?
Perhaps it's because they're not OFFERED in the USA in passenger cars,
except VW and I think Mercedes finally has a diesel now. I understand
the VW TDI sells fairly well, in spite of being a VW.

Jack

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miles - 20 Aug 2005 01:15 GMT

I still believe the lack of diesels is an emmissions issue. The public
demand for them is high as any that are produced sell well. The diesel
puts out high amounts of particulates.

> And why aren't diesels "sold that much in the USA in passenger cars"?
> Perhaps it's because they're not OFFERED in the USA in passenger cars,
> except VW and I think Mercedes finally has a diesel now. I understand
> the VW TDI sells fairly well, in spite of being a VW.
>
> Jack

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JR - 20 Aug 2005 04:18 GMT

Correct, it's not about demand. But I don't see how it could be about
emissions, because most states don't even test diesels. And the DO
sell, when they're offered. Even when they're not particularly good
(as you pointed out, the Liberty has not had great reviews, and I
believe VW has serious QC issues).

However, the emissions issue should go away when low-sulphur fuel is
mandated (2007). Maybe the automakers are waiting for that...(?)

Jack

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