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Car Forum / Isuzu Cars / November 2006

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1994 Rodeo Issues - Starter \ Break Light On

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Cyclones Manager - 10 Nov 2006 16:40 GMT
Looking for a little guidance on a couple of issues.  Rodeo is entering
it's 12th-13th year and starting to break down a bit :-)

First, I think my starer is going bad.  When I turn the key, it clicks
and may not start.  If I turn the key enough times it will start.
Sometimes, it takes one turn.  Sometimes it may take 25 turns.  Is it
the starter that is bad?  Or is it a smaller part than the entire
starter?

Second issue: the Brake light and Rear AntiLock break light is on in
the dashboard.  I have checked the brake pads and such and they are
fine.  But the dasboard light stay on constantly.  I haven't had any
problems with the breaks.  The break fluid is full.  I was wondering if
there is anything else I should check or look for?

Thanks all!

Greg
Mike L - 10 Nov 2006 22:23 GMT
> Looking for a little guidance on a couple of issues.  Rodeo is entering
> it's 12th-13th year and starting to break down a bit :-)
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> Greg

Hello Greg,

I have a '95 Trooper and have had both of these issues.

Issue 1 - My trooper eats starters about every 60,000 miles. First
indication I get is slow rollover. It starts, but the starter does not
turn the engine like it should - like a low battery. Then it is the
occasional click only - It may be the selenoid, but since one must drop
the exhaust, I replace the starter as I don't want to do this again -
for awhile.

Issue 2 - Rear brake light fuse (15 amp) goes and you get those
dashboard lights. On my trooper, it also controls power to Auto Trans
Controller - don't ask...

Mike
Phil - 11 Nov 2006 18:10 GMT
>Looking for a little guidance on a couple of issues.  Rodeo is entering
>it's 12th-13th year and starting to break down a bit :-)
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>Greg

1) Definitely the starter.  Definitely a pain in the rear to replace as to do it correctly the exhaust has to be removed from
the manifold in order to get the old starter out / new starter in.

    1b) IF you're daring and you have a small cutting wheel, you can cut the flange off of the old / new starter which is
what is preventing the dang thing from coming out / going in.

2) Common and known problem.  Hits a 96 Rodeo also.  No idea what causes it, no idea how to cure it.  Aggravating but I'm
finally learning to just ignore it.   BTW on mine, it's somewhat intermittent.  I'll be driving and they'll come on.  Once
they do that it's usually on for the rest of the day.  By the next morning they're both off again.   If it's a hot morning
(like in the 80's) they'll stay on even between the engine stop yesterday and the start today.

Good luck
Phil
Ed H. - 12 Nov 2006 16:27 GMT
1) It could be a poor battery connection and the starter just isn't getting
enough current to crank.  Before spending money on a new starter, I would
clean both ends of battery cables with
> Looking for a little guidance on a couple of issues.  Rodeo is entering
> it's 12th-13th year and starting to break down a bit :-)
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> Greg
Ed H. - 12 Nov 2006 16:32 GMT
Oops.  Hit enter before I was finished.  Any way
1) It could be a poor battery connection and the starter just isn't getting
enough current to crank.  Before spending money on a new starter, I would
clean both ends of the battery cables with a baking soda/water solution.

2) The ABS computer has sensed a fault in the system.  When it does, it sets
a code in the computer, that the dealer should be able to retrieve.  I know
there are not many dealers left and I don't think that a generic ODB-II
reader will be able to retrieve it as it's not emmissions related.  I wonder
if a GM dealer could read the ABS computer?

> 1) It could be a poor battery connection and the starter just isn't
> getting enough current to crank.  Before spending money on a new starter,
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>> Greg
Pason - 15 Nov 2006 22:22 GMT
> Looking for a little guidance on a couple of issues.  Rodeo is entering
> it's 12th-13th year and starting to break down a bit :-)
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> Greg

I have an old Corolla that the starter solenoid started to go on.  Same
symptoms you describe.  Hitting it with a hammer helped for awhile.
That car had a disabled clutch safety switch.  I started it in gear
while pumping the brakes hard a few times and I never had a problem
since.  Now that's precision mechanics.
GreenGas - 24 Nov 2006 03:09 GMT
Remove starter and solenoid. Disassemble solenoid and take it apart to where
you can see the copper disk and where it makes contact with the two copper
contacts inside, connecting the 12 volt hot battery lead to the starter
windings. If this is all eaten up, replace it or fix it - I used a piece of
copper from some water pipe and it lasted forever.
While you're in there, look at the starter brushes and bearings - if they
are worn out, you can replace them or the whole starter if you want.
But your problem is your solenoid just is worn out.
r/
Steve

> Looking for a little guidance on a couple of issues.  Rodeo is entering
> it's 12th-13th year and starting to break down a bit :-)
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> Greg
 
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