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Car Forum / Jaguar Cars / November 2004Build Quality
I read with interest the article on the S type regulator problem posted by N. Haupt. Its scandalous that a window regulator should break at all, never mind all 4 regulators. It got me thinking about what to do ... Now lets face it (Take the emotion out of this all Jag owners) but Jaguar cars have great engines, fantastic pedigree but absolutely crap build quality. This has been true of the days when Jaguar was built by the communist controlled unions in the 1970's. Ford is not exactly a company known for its build quality, so what we need here is a company to partner Jaguar who can build good quality cars. Now I hear all those people raving on about the Germans. BMW and Mercedes do produce some nice cars, but the Japanese have been turning out fantastic build quality since the late 70's - So in my utopia, Ford sell Jaguar to a Japanese company who sack all of the militant workers who take too many tea breaks anyway. Build quality goes up and Jaguar lives forever !!!! Debate .. Great Idea -- except the finish to the scenario has to be that the Japanese then sell out to the French (Nissan/Renault) and that is when the build quality REALLY gets good!! Webserve > I read with interest the article on the S type regulator problem posted by > N. Haupt. [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > Debate .. YOU MUST BE JOKING. click on this link to read a review of the last ever Renault that I will ever own ... Stu http://www.parkers.co.uk/choosing/user_reviews/readReviews.aspx?deriv=20935&mode l=741&id=8926 > Great Idea -- except the finish to the scenario has to be that the > Japanese [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] >> >> Debate .. It actually WAS very tongue in cheek, but Nissan/Infinity/Renault IS one of the best build companies in the world and they ARE all owned by Renault. Go figure!! Webserve > YOU MUST BE JOKING. click on this link to read a review of the last ever > Renault that I will ever own ... > > Stu http://www.parkers.co.uk/choosing/user_reviews/readReviews.aspx?deriv=20935&mode l=741&id=8926 > > Great Idea -- except the finish to the scenario has to be that the > > Japanese [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > >> > >> Debate .. I think the issue here is the bloody French - Too much Garlic in the food > It actually WAS very tongue in cheek, but Nissan/Infinity/Renault IS one > of [quoted text clipped - 53 lines] >> >> >> >> Debate .. > Ford is not > exactly a company known for its build quality You don't have a clue about what you are taling about, do you? Ford has turned this company around. They are now the best european car and 3rd best in the world. These studies and my driving experience are why I purchases a 2005 S-Type 4.2. http://media.ford.com/article_display.cfm?article_id=19205 JAGUAR LEAPS FORWARD IN 2004 J.D. POWER & ASSOCIATES INITIAL QUALITY STUDY Jaguar has moved up to become the highest-ranking European nameplate in the latest 2004 J.D. Power and Associates Initial Quality Study (IQS). Leaping from 10th place in 2003 to rank third overall is a direct result of a 20 percent improvement on its previous year's performance. The third-place ranking puts Jaguar well ahead of rivals Mercedes-Benz (10th place), Audi (11th) and BMW (12th). Only Lexus and Cadillac placed higher than Jaguar. http://www.kron.com/Global/story.asp?S=2581059 IRVINE, Calif., Nov. 17 /PRNewswire/ -- Jaguar advanced seven positions in the 2004 J.D. Power and Associates SSI (Sales Satisfaction Index) Study to place at number 1 in the industry ranking. http://forums1.roadfly.org/jaguar/forums/x350/5044904-1.html U.S.A Today (04/29/04) reports the Car Quality rankings provided by J.D. Powers and Associates 2004 Initial Quality Study. The Top 10 are as follows: Problems reported per 100 vehicles (first 90 days of owner ship) Lexus (87) Cadillac (93) Jaguar (98) Honda (99) Buick (100) Mercury (100) Hyundai (102) Infiniti (104) Toyota (104) Mercedes-Benz (106) http://khnl.com/global/story.asp?s=2437220&ClientType=Printable IRVINE, Calif., Oct. 15 /PRNewswire/ -- Jaguar shows significant improvement in the latest J.D. Power and Associates APEAL (Automotive Performance, Execution and Layout) Study. The APEAL Study is based on responses from new-vehicle owners who were surveyed during their first 90 days of ownership. Jaguar made some of the greatest improvement among the luxury nameplates surveyed. Jaguar rose in the ranking by three places, placing fifth overall in the study from eighth in 2003.  Signature____________________________ Ah, Young Grasshopper. Sometimes it is eyes that blind a man. Tell that to the man whose windows fell out !!! >> Ford is not >> exactly a company known for its build quality [quoted text clipped - 45 lines] > luxury nameplates surveyed. Jaguar rose in the ranking by three places, > placing fifth overall in the study from eighth in 2003. > Tell that to the man whose windows fell out !!! You tell him. Or tell me if there is a vehicle that has zero defects within the warranty period they offer. I cannot list a car I have owned that has not been back to the shop for some problem or another. My 03 Avalanche had the A/C fail at least 8 times. I had even thought about using the lemon law. They replaced the compressor a few times, the head unit in the car a few times, and minor parts a few times more. 03 Corvette - transmission problem, a few recalls, door actuator short, and some other stuff. 02 GMC Dually - oil consumption problem and windows that would not open. 05 Jag S-Type has been back for a flaw in the paint, tick in the motor, and flaws in the windshield. If there is a car that never fails, I wanna buy 3 of them. Signature____________________________ Ah, Young Grasshopper. Sometimes it is eyes that blind a man. What are these strange American cars of which you speak ? >> Tell that to the man whose windows fell out !!! > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > paint, tick in the motor, and flaws in the windshield. If there is a > car that never fails, I wanna buy 3 of them. "Stuart Adair" <stuartadair@btopenworld.com> wrote in message... > What are these strange American cars of which you speak ? Yawn |
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