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Car Forum / Jaguar Cars / June 2006

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Replacement antifreeze for aluminum block engine in an XK8?

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Jeff Lindstrom - 31 May 2006 08:46 GMT
 I just spent $100 getting new antifreeze after a hose leak (the same
quantity of standard, name brand antifreeze for a 'regular' engine would
have run about $16).

 The specification is ESD-M97B49-A.  I can't find much in a search on
Google and very little of what I did find relates to a lower-cost
replacement.  A visit to the local Kragen auto parts store didn't turn up
anything on the labels, although one shared a few of the letters and
numbers.

 What is suitable and where can I get it?

Thanks in advance,

Jeff
old man - 31 May 2006 16:17 GMT
In this country any anti freeze suitable for alloy blocks is OK

>   I just spent $100 getting new antifreeze after a hose leak (the same
> quantity of standard, name brand antifreeze for a 'regular' engine would
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> Jeff
Gunner - 01 Jun 2006 02:52 GMT
yep,
Some "import garage" owner thought I had a "stupid" tattoo on my forehead
just because I have a VDP. Tried to hit me up for $70 USD a gallon for
antifreeze 20 bucks for a filter and $10 a quart for oil. What was good
enough for any other aluminum block is good enough for a Jag. My last
aluminum block engine had 204,000 miles on it and was still running strong
when some idiot hit me and totaled my truck. Incidentally I run Havoline
10w30. AAMCO does my tranny fluid and filter change because they have a
nationwide warranty and I can't get rid of the fluid. Any radiator shop can
do the antifreeze change for the same fluid reason. Just make sure you
change the thermostat before you take the car to have the antifreeze
changed.

>  I just spent $100 getting new antifreeze after a hose leak (the same
> quantity of standard, name brand antifreeze for a 'regular' engine would
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> Jeff
Rob - 01 Jun 2006 03:43 GMT
> yep,
>  Some "import garage" owner thought I had a "stupid" tattoo on my forehead
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> change the thermostat before you take the car to have the antifreeze
> changed.

There are different types of anti freeze BTW  - just make sure its
correct for your engine alloy - should have a recommended cars or what
the specs comply with on either a chart or container. Cheap maybe not
correct for the engine and can in longer term be very expensive.

>> I just spent $100 getting new antifreeze after a hose leak (the same
>>quantity of standard, name brand antifreeze for a 'regular' engine would
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>>
>>Jeff
Gunner - 02 Jun 2006 02:03 GMT
Very true Rob. Acids can be nasty. Sierra makes one that is environmentally
friendly and is already mixed 50/50. When I was military and was able to do
my own at the auto hobby shop, that's what I used.

>> yep,
>>  Some "import garage" owner thought I had a "stupid" tattoo on my
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>>>Jeff
Jeff Lindstrom - 02 Jun 2006 10:45 GMT
 I didn't see that when in a store.  I also haven't found it on the web
(but I was specifically searching for the ESD number listed in my Owner's
Manual, not a general antifreeze).

Jeff

> There are different types of anti freeze BTW  - just make sure its
> correct for your engine alloy - should have a recommended cars or what
> the specs comply with on either a chart or container. Cheap maybe not
> correct for the engine and can in longer term be very expensive.
Jeff Lindstrom - 02 Jun 2006 10:44 GMT
 The antifreeze bottles I perused at Kragens didn't list engine
compatibility.  I didn't see any reference to aluminum block engines, but I
was concentrating on the ESD number.

 Why does the thermostat need to be changed if you put in a compatible
antifreeze?

Jeff

> yep,
>  Some "import garage" owner thought I had a "stupid" tattoo on my
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>>  What is suitable and where can I get it?
Gunner - 02 Jun 2006 12:16 GMT
The thermostat controls the temp of your engine. Eventually the spring will
weaken to the point it will either stick open or closed. It's a good idea to
change it every time you change anti-freeze to avoid costly repairs later.
Especially true in an aluminum block. It's cheap peace of mind.

>  The antifreeze bottles I perused at Kragens didn't list engine
> compatibility.  I didn't see any reference to aluminum block engines, but
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>>>  What is suitable and where can I get it?
Rob - 02 Jun 2006 14:30 GMT
> The thermostat controls the temp of your engine. Eventually the spring will
> weaken to the point it will either stick open or closed. It's a good idea to
> change it every time you change anti-freeze to avoid costly repairs later.
> Especially true in an aluminum block. It's cheap peace of mind.

I don't think its the spring that fails but the wax.

>> The antifreeze bottles I perused at Kragens didn't list engine
>>compatibility.  I didn't see any reference to aluminum block engines, but
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>>>>
>>>> What is suitable and where can I get it?
Rob - 02 Jun 2006 14:44 GMT
>   The antifreeze bottles I perused at Kragens didn't list engine
> compatibility.  I didn't see any reference to aluminum block engines, but I
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>
> Jeff

have a look through these

http://www.shell-lubricants.com/products/product_list.php?subcatid=1

or another oil company products for comparison.

>>yep,
>> Some "import garage" owner thought I had a "stupid" tattoo on my
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>>>
>>> What is suitable and where can I get it?
Jeff Lindstrom - 03 Jun 2006 02:26 GMT
>>   The antifreeze bottles I perused at Kragens didn't list engine
>> compatibility.  I didn't see any reference to aluminum block engines,
>> but I was concentrating on the ESD number.
>>
>> Jeff

> have a look through these
>
> http://www.shell-lubricants.com/products/product_list.php?subcatid=1
>
> or another oil company products for comparison.

 Interesting.  I should pick up some for... whenever.

 Thanks for the info.

Jeff
 
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