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Car Forum / Jaguar Cars / October 2006

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Castrol vs Synthetic

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TsimbaVarti - 08 Oct 2006 17:01 GMT
Advise please,

I have bought a 1996 XJ6 Vanden Plas; previous owner used Castrol
motor oil.

My other non - Jag car runs on synthetic oil and I am thinking of
changing the Jag to synthetic oil at the next oil change.

But not knowing a lot about Jaguar enjines I will stay with Castrol if
advised to  - what would the group recommend,?

Thanks for any advise given.
Leo Jensen - 08 Oct 2006 18:04 GMT
> Advise please,
>
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> But not knowing a lot about Jaguar enjines I will stay with Castrol if
> advised to  - what would the group recommend,?

I have the same plans for my XJ40 3.2 from 1992, so I am also interested.
Both cars have the AJ6 engine as far as I know.
I am running on a semisynthetic 10W-40 for the moment, but think that a
fully synthetic must be better, but probably not necesarry at all...

Leo
wtrplnet - 09 Oct 2006 00:10 GMT
> > Advise please,
> >
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>
> Leo

Twenty years ago there was a general warning around that stated you
shouldn't convert to synthetic oil if the car had more than 10,000 miles on
it, run on conventional oil.  It was thought that synthetic oil would tend
to leak past seals worn in with regular oil.  I hope someone has more
up-to-date information.
Leo Jensen - 09 Oct 2006 18:34 GMT
>> > Advise please,
>> >
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> to leak past seals worn in with regular oil.  I hope someone has more
> up-to-date information.

I hope you mean 100000 miles, after 10000 miles you have just finished
breaking in the engine...
If a synthetic oil has the viscosity prescribed for the engine, I don't see
why it should pass any seals that a conventional oil doesn'r pass ?

Leo
wtrplnet - 09 Oct 2006 21:17 GMT
> >> > Advise please,
> >> >
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> I hope you mean 100000 miles, after 10000 miles you have just finished
> breaking in the engine...

Exactly the point.

> If a synthetic oil has the viscosity prescribed for the engine, I don't see
> why it should pass any seals that a conventional oil doesn'r pass ?
>
> Leo
Scatterling - 10 Oct 2006 02:48 GMT
>Advise please,
>
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>
>Thanks for any advise given.

Funny reverse saying I heard was that once you put a car on synthetic
oil you can't go back to a regular oil or it'l ruin your engine.
Are these "urban legends or really based on fact?
Gunner - 16 Oct 2006 03:02 GMT
I have a motor oil bible for anyone interested. It's rather large 3.18 MB

> Advise please,
>
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>
> Thanks for any advise given.
JP - 21 Oct 2006 03:11 GMT
The main reason you should change your oil at the recommended intervals is not
because the oil has "worn down" but because it gets dirty from carbon deposits
and other impurities that make their way down into the oil pan from the
combustion chambers. The actual lubricating properties of any oil are thus
diminished because these carbons create friction on moving parts. The oil filter
helps, but it gets saturated very fast and notwithstanding most manufacturers
claims, most impurities go right through it.

You can go out and spend a lot more for a quart of synthetic oil and it will not
be any better on your engine than a good regular oil like Castrol. Both oil
types will get dirty after about 3,000 miles; and the dirt is what damages your
engine.

Unless you are driving a racing engine at over 10K RPM for long periods of time,
you will never generate enough friction and heat to break down a good regular
oil.

So, save your money and get the Jaguar factory recommended Castrol GTX 10W-40 or
20W-50.

Regular oil is just about the most easily recyclable consumable there is. Oil
recycling centers just filter the carbons out and re-sell it with the same
lubricating properties as regular oil.

JP
Engineering Products Investigations
Nissan North America, Inc.
Nashville, TN.

>I have a motor oil bible for anyone interested. It's rather large 3.18 MB
>
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>>
>> Thanks for any advise given.

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TsimbaVarti - 26 Oct 2006 04:07 GMT
>JP,

Thanks for the information, much appreciated,  I will stay with
Castrol oil as recommended.

>The main reason you should change your oil at the recommended intervals is not
>because the oil has "worn down" but because it gets dirty from carbon deposits
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>Nissan North America, Inc.
>Nashville, TN.

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JP - 29 Oct 2006 18:16 GMT
>>JP,
>
>Thanks for the information, much appreciated,  I will stay with
>Castrol oil as recommended.

Good choice.

I have a 92 VandenPlas with a LOT of mileage. I've never used any motor oil
other than the factory recommended Castrol GTX 10-40W and the engine is still
going strong.

Synthetic oils withstand higher temperatures before breaking down, and have more
base stock and less viscosity modifiers. However, synthetics wear out, become
acidic, and eventually become saturated with suspended soot particles, just like
regular oil.

And finally, I recommend you do your oil change. It's not that difficult and
you'll avoid trouble. For some stories on Jiffy Lube, check this out:
http://www.consumeraffairs.com/automotive/jiffy_lube.htm

John.
TsimbaVarti - 26 Oct 2006 04:08 GMT
>JP,

Thanks for the information, much appreciated,  I will stay with
Castrol oil as recommended.

>The main reason you should change your oil at the recommended intervals is not
>because the oil has "worn down" but because it gets dirty from carbon deposits
[quoted text clipped - 24 lines]
>Nissan North America, Inc.
>Nashville, TN.

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>>> Advise please,
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