I'm thinking of buying a used X-type because of the all wheel drive.
(I'll keep my Corvette for the rest of the year, but I've got a
driveway that may be challenging for the Corvette by next month.) My
impression from the J.D. Powers Initial Quality Survey numbers is that
2002 and 2003 X-types had LOTS of problems, but that 2004 and 2005 were
quite a bit better. Does anyone have any additional information that
might shed some light on this?
fweddybear - 06 Dec 2006 23:13 GMT
> I'm thinking of buying a used X-type because of the all wheel drive.
> (I'll keep my Corvette for the rest of the year, but I've got a
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> quite a bit better. Does anyone have any additional information that
> might shed some light on this?
I also own a vette, which we don't drive in the winter months...for that
matter we don't drive it much in the summer either... anyway
We own a 2002 jag x-type 2.5 engine..... had it about a year and a
half....so far its needed a new radio because the display was missing a line
or two of its display.... its also needed to have the a/c ground wire
tightened as its come loose, and now (just today) we picked it up from
needing a blower motor.
If you are considering buying one, also consider buying the extended
warantee. We bought one and have needed it. Its not the extended warrantee
from jaguar, so ours is not all inclusive, but it does include much of the
vehicle (its one of the better ones). I was told (by the jag service guy)
that the jag extended warrantee covers pretty much bumper to bumper where
others do not, but that may just have been sales talk out of his mouth....
Are we happy with it? Well my wife loves the car... im not that
impressed.. but to me, I don't get impressed that easily with vehicles these
days. I can't speak for newer years, and I can't say ours is a lemon, but
if we didn't have the warrantee, the car would be history by now....parts
are not cheap for it.
Hope this helps..
Fwed
JimInsolo - 07 Dec 2006 13:04 GMT
If it's a 2002 and you've had it a year and a half, then someone else owned
it for a couple years before that- maybe they got rid of it for a reason.
> We own a 2002 jag x-type 2.5 engine..... had it about a year and a
> half....so far its needed a new radio because the display was missing a line
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> Fwed
Blake Dodson - 07 Dec 2006 14:35 GMT
> If it's a 2002 and you've had it a year and a half, then someone else owned
> it for a couple years before that- maybe they got rid of it for a reason.
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> > Fwed
It's not a lemon, but a typical FORD.
Barney Rubble - 07 Dec 2006 18:00 GMT
Yawn
>> If it's a 2002 and you've had it a year and a half, then someone else
>> owned
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> It's not a lemon, but a typical FORD.
fweddybear - 07 Dec 2006 20:18 GMT
>> If it's a 2002 and you've had it a year and a half, then someone else
>> owned
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>
> It's not a lemon, but a typical FORD.
yes... a glorified ford!!
Fwed
fweddybear - 07 Dec 2006 20:17 GMT
I am sure they did. On the other hand, a buddy of mine leases a new vette
every two years and just turns it in for a new one, even if there is nothing
wrong with it. Chances are he had been having problems with it along the
way, but he could have also just wanted a newer jag. It was hard to tell
when buying the car.
I buy alot of vehicles used....many have been just fine, and I've
bouight some new cars and can say I've had great luck with all but one (it
was such a lemon, I should have been able to smell it before I bought
it...ha)
As far as the jag goes..... I would still consider an extended warrantee
if the car doesn't have one...mainly because it will pay for
itself....eventually.... think about it.. even the tranny falls on the
ground, with the warrantee, you will be covered instead of paying another
ton of money to have the thing fixed...
Fwed
> If it's a 2002 and you've had it a year and a half, then someone else
> owned
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>> Fwed
David - 08 Dec 2006 01:35 GMT
I own a 2003 X-Type 2.5. It has about 39,000 miles on it. So far I
have not had any problems with it. It has had all of the scheduled
maintenance done. The only other work I have had done is the brakes.
They got worked on this summer, around 36,000 miles. I have read the
2002 and earlier models had some problems. But, I have not
experienced any as of yet.
>I'm thinking of buying a used X-type because of the all wheel drive.
>(I'll keep my Corvette for the rest of the year, but I've got a
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>quite a bit better. Does anyone have any additional information that
>might shed some light on this?
RPR - 08 Dec 2006 03:25 GMT
Don't do it by any fathom of the imagination. I have a 2004 x type which
has been a lemon from the beginning. I have never had so much trouble with
a car and such lousy service by both the dealer and the manufacturer. I
have gone through 3 front ends with a variety of problems. I have had to
complain of many sounds, thumps etc. After many visits to my dealer, we
were told that I broke a front strut through and through. Can you imagine?
That was after other failures in the front end. I would never
lease/purchase a Jag again. I cannot express this any stronger. Look at
the Japanese and German Brands.
> I'm thinking of buying a used X-type because of the all wheel drive.
> (I'll keep my Corvette for the rest of the year, but I've got a
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> quite a bit better. Does anyone have any additional information that
> might shed some light on this?
Tony Butler - 08 Dec 2006 09:28 GMT
I've got a X-type (front wheel drive - 2.0) which I bought second hand six
months ago. It's now none 70,000 miles (20,000 of mine) and hasn't put a
foot wrong.
> Don't do it by any fathom of the imagination. I have a 2004 x type which
> has been a lemon from the beginning. I have never had so much trouble
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>> quite a bit better. Does anyone have any additional information that
>> might shed some light on this?
C.R. Krieger - 08 Dec 2006 21:17 GMT
> I'm thinking of buying a used X-type because of the all wheel drive.
> (I'll keep my Corvette for the rest of the year, but I've got a
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> quite a bit better. Does anyone have any additional information that
> might shed some light on this?
After 14 years in Audi Quattros, we have had an early 2002 3.0 Sport
5-speed X-Type (10/01 delivery) with ~78,000 miles on it since early
2003 (with ~21,000 miles). We have had *no* major complaints. It has
never stranded anyone nor has any important system failed. One of the
things that the Power Survey would probably pick up is the recalcitrant
defroster vent fascias (on top of the dash) that won't stay snapped
down in place. If this bothers you, don't buy it; they haven't fixed
it yet and the cars *all* have it. I consider it a very minor thing
that doesn't affect my enjoyment of the car.
Jaguar dealership service *does* border on the obscenely expensive (and
there are damn few alternatives), but you'll find your treatment better
than any Chevy dealer can offer (Ask your wife how she feels about
waiting in a customer lounge approximately as nice as the Waldorf
Astoria's lobby - only the exotic coffees, juice, water, and
fresh-baked cookies are free.), even if you do have a 'Vette. The
original Jaguar warranty/full service expires at 50K or 4 years.
Several minor issues were fixed under it, but none were anything I
think I'd have ever noticed (One was a shift boot replacement!?). I
found it to be quite complete.
Since then, I have changed the original rear pads (~$350 @ ~60K; the
front ones are *still good*!) and dropped ~$500 on a front ABS sensor &
line problem that was hard to diagnose and was throwing odd 'check
engine' codes. Other than that, the car has been wonderful. It is
driven year-round by my wife. I use a set of Dunlop Winter M3s in
winter and it will do amazing things with the traction control engaged
(you can always turn it off to do *crazy stupid* things if you want -
and I have). I understand the autoboxes have been more problematic,
but I have no experience with them. The engine (both 2.5 and 3.0, in
the US) is a lovely V6 with Jaguar-modified heads and intake on the
durable Ford Duratec. I've seen almost no complaints whatsoever about
it nor about the Gen II Mondeo-based suspension. Some early models had
a 'screeching' noise from the rear end or driveline. Ours has not,
unless that brief noise when it was around -20F was it. I'm not
exactly 'easy' on a car, but this one stands up to everything I've
thrown at it.
My own winter driver is an '01 Grand Cherokee while my summer ride is
an '88 BMW 535is. Aside from some minor 'ground clearance' and
'passenger leg space' issues, the Jaguar is easily capable of doing
virtually everything either of the others does. I'd autocross it, but
she won't let me ... =:^(
And ... not that this matters in the least, but I am constantly amazed
by it ... people are unceasingly impressed with the name. Trust me;
I've been driving BMWs and Audis for decades and no one but the most
diehard car fanatic is any more impressed by them than by the mention
of the name "Jag-you-are".
--
C.R. Krieger
(Been there; done that.)
Jim C - 16 Dec 2006 20:39 GMT
I have a 2003 3.0 and have had no problems. Replace rear brakes that's it.
Runs great
> I'm thinking of buying a used X-type because of the all wheel drive.
> (I'll keep my Corvette for the rest of the year, but I've got a
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> quite a bit better. Does anyone have any additional information that
> might shed some light on this?
Jim C - 07 Jan 2007 00:19 GMT
I own a 2003 X with 39k miles and it runs perfect. I had to replace rear
brakes and regular schedule maintenance. Very happy with the purchase.
> I'm thinking of buying a used X-type because of the all wheel drive.
> (I'll keep my Corvette for the rest of the year, but I've got a
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> quite a bit better. Does anyone have any additional information that
> might shed some light on this?