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Car Forum / Jaguar Cars / January 2007$947 to change spark plugs
My 2002 S-type 3.0 is due for new plugs, can't for to take it to my local jag dealer, so I would like to do it myself. I found a site that gives a detail description on changing the plugs on the same engine in the X-type. http://3litermotorproject.blogspot.com/2006/01/motor-project-5-changing-plugs.html With the x-type being front wheel drive everything is shifted 90 degrees, so the things this guys says are hard to reach may not be so in the s-type, and vice versa. So my first question is, does anyone know of a link that gives a detail description on how to change the plugs in an S-type. The second question is, if not, what problems can I expect on the S-type that is not expected on the X-type. Thanks in advance for any helpful suggestions. Billy There was an article in last months practical mechanics about a basic s type service. If I still have it (cant think why I wouldn't) then I will scan in the pages an email them over to you. > My 2002 S-type 3.0 is due for new plugs, can't for to take it to my local > jag dealer, so I would like to do it myself. I found a site that gives a [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > Thanks in advance for any helpful suggestions. > Billy : There was an article in last months practical mechanics about a basic s type : service. : : If I still have it (cant think why I wouldn't) then I will scan in the : pages an email them over to you. That would be great, if you find it my email address is billyross80@aim.com If not I should be able to find a copy at library. Thanks for the tip. Billy : > My 2002 S-type 3.0 is due for new plugs, can't for to take it to my local : > jag dealer, so I would like to do it myself. I found a site that gives a : > detail description on changing the plugs on the same engine in the X-type. http://3litermotorproject.blogspot.com/2006/01/motor-project-5-changing-plugs.html : > With the x-type being front wheel drive everything is shifted 90 degrees, : > so [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] : > Thanks in advance for any helpful suggestions. : > Billy Hi Billy, The file is large at 10M so I have put it onto a temp webserver. http://home.btconnect.com/browns/STYPE.PDF I can't promise that it will stay there forever, but should be good for a few days. This comes from "Car Mechanics" magazine, which is worth ever penny for a subscription. Please see http://www.carmechanicsmag.co.uk/ then rush out and buy one! One other source of info you may like to consider is joining the club http://www.jec.org.uk/1024.htm The magazine alone is worth its weight in gold for helpfull hints etc. Thats enough advertising from me, so please download and good luck! Peter > : There was an article in last months practical mechanics about a basic s > type [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > : > Thanks in advance for any helpful suggestions. > : > Billy Got it, Thanks for putting in the time. Billy : Hi Billy, : [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] : > : > detail description on changing the plugs on the same engine in the : > X-type. http://3litermotorproject.blogspot.com/2006/01/motor-project-5-changing-plugs.html : > : > With the x-type being front wheel drive everything is shifted 90 : > degrees, [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] : > : > Thanks in advance for any helpful suggestions. : > : > Billy Put your wrench on the plug and turn counter clockwise to remove- put in new plug and turn clockwise to tighten. > My 2002 S-type 3.0 is due for new plugs, can't for to take it to my local > jag dealer, so I would like to do it myself. I found a site that gives a > detail description on changing the plugs on the same engine in the X-type. http://3litermotorproject.blogspot.com/2006/01/motor-project-5-changing-plug s.html > With the x-type being front wheel drive everything is shifted 90 degrees, so > the things this guys says are hard to reach may not be so in the s-type, and [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Thanks in advance for any helpful suggestions. > Billy > Put your wrench on the plug and turn counter clockwise to remove- put in > new plug and turn clockwise to tighten. Sounds nice and simple, but I think you need to remove the inlet manafold first. If I remember correcly, this job was marked as right pain in the arse. >> My 2002 S-type 3.0 is due for new plugs, can't for to take it to my local >> jag dealer, so I would like to do it myself. I found a site that gives a [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] >> Thanks in advance for any helpful suggestions. >> Billy >> Put your wrench on the plug and turn counter clockwise to remove- put in >> new plug and turn clockwise to tighten. > > Sounds nice and simple, but I think you need to remove the inlet manafold > first. If I remember correcly, this job was marked as right pain in the > arse. You remember correctly. : Put your wrench on the plug and turn counter clockwise to remove- put in : new plug and turn clockwise to tighten. Good to know info, but I was looking for a wee bit more detail. : > My 2002 S-type 3.0 is due for new plugs, can't for to take it to my local : > jag dealer, so I would like to do it myself. I found a site that gives a : > detail description on changing the plugs on the same engine in the X-type. http://3litermotorproject.blogspot.com/2006/01/motor-project-5-changing-plug : s.html : > With the x-type being front wheel drive everything is shifted 90 degrees, [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] : > Thanks in advance for any helpful suggestions. : > Billy Wow, so Jaguar were lying when they said my 2005 VDP was 4 wheel drive? I'm going to sue them right now.... > My 2002 S-type 3.0 is due for new plugs, can't for to take it to my local > jag dealer, so I would like to do it myself. I found a site that gives a [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > Thanks in advance for any helpful suggestions. > Billy : Wow, so Jaguar were lying when they said my 2005 VDP was 4 wheel drive? I'm : going to sue them right now.... Good luck with that. : > My 2002 S-type 3.0 is due for new plugs, can't for to take it to my local : > jag dealer, so I would like to do it myself. I found a site that gives a : > detail description on changing the plugs on the same engine in the X-type. http://3litermotorproject.blogspot.com/2006/01/motor-project-5-changing-plugs.html : > With the x-type being front wheel drive everything is shifted 90 degrees, : > so [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] : > Thanks in advance for any helpful suggestions. : > Billy Man, if you have to take all off to get to them, I would say be sure to use the longest lasting plug you can find -- not a time to use $2 plugs, for sure. > My 2002 S-type 3.0 is due for new plugs, can't for to take it to my local > jag dealer, so I would like to do it myself. I found a site that gives a [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Thanks in advance for any helpful suggestions. > Billy I have a 99 S type here in the UK and a plug change service costs nothing like that much at my local Jaguar Specialist (West Riding Jaguar) - I stay away from main dealers. I'm told it takes about an hour to remove the inlet manifold and put it back. The plugs are quite accessible once you've taken it off. $947? I thought everything was cheaper in the States!. The advice I would give you is to replace the three ignition coils on that side while you're at it because they do break down and it would be unfortunate to have to pull the manifold off again. I certainly had two coils fail at 84k miles. This problem seems to show itself first as an intermittent misfire while idling that clears as soon as you pull away. They don't design these things with ease of maintenance in mind, do they? Best of luck! > My 2002 S-type 3.0 is due for new plugs, can't for to take it to my local > jag dealer, so I would like to do it myself. I found a site that gives a [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Thanks in advance for any helpful suggestions. > Billy Thanks for the advice, it is actually the coils that is motivating me to change the plugs, I've had to replace two of them in the last 3 months, but it wasn't the ones under the manifold. like you said it started as an intermitting misfire. I'm about to take a 3,000 mile trip and don't want to take a chance of one going out while I'm traveling. $947 was from the dealer, I can get it done for half the price if I take it to general mechanic. The one general mechanic I spoke with said it was 2 1/2 hours labor. I figure I should be about to do it, just under 5 hours. :I have a 99 S type here in the UK and a plug change service costs : nothing like that much at my local Jaguar Specialist (West Riding [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] : > Thanks in advance for any helpful suggestions. : > Billy >My 2002 S-type 3.0 is due for new plugs, can't for to take it to my local >jag dealer, so I would like to do it myself. I found a site that gives a [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >Thanks in advance for any helpful suggestions. >Billy After reading this, I sent off a note to the service advisor at my dealership, Bergstrom Premier Motor Cars in Appleton, Wisconsin. This is his response: "On the 2002 Jaguar X-Type, the sparkplugs are not due till 100,000 miles. The 100,000 mile maintenance service including an oil service, new wiper inserts, climate system filter, accessory drive belt, new sparkplugs and the comprehensive inspection including labor time, parts, oil and tax is $695." Since I do my own oil changes with Mobil 1, the price of that obviously gets deducted. I also opt to buy the parts (wiper inserts and climate system filter) and install myself, thus saving a couple more bucks in labor. Mark '02 X-Type 2.5 : >My 2002 S-type 3.0 is due for new plugs, can't for to take it to my local : >jag dealer, so I would like to do it myself. I found a site that gives a [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] : Mark : '02 X-Type 2.5 Fair enough, I recieved my quote from South Coast Jaguar in San Juan Capistrano, CA , it was just changing the plugs. > My 2002 S-type 3.0 is due for new plugs, can't for to take it to my local > jag dealer, so I would like to do it myself. I found a site that gives a [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > Thanks in advance for any helpful suggestions. > Billy Hi Billy, I have found a better article about changing the plugs. It is from Jaguar World Monthly Feb 2004. http://www.jaguar-world.com/ This is a 5M file, currently available from, but again I cant promise more than a few days! http://home.btconnect.com/browns/s-plugs2.pdf It reports that the was also a problem with the coolant expansion tank (on the earlier s-stype (badge on bonnet NOT grill)), which should be changed at the same time. If yours hasn't failed already it seems it may do very soon. Also, whilst you have taken half the car apart the pollen filter is exposed and easy to change! Hope this helps, and good luck. Peter Wow, This is great, if I can't do it with these instructions, I never should have ask the question. It will be a week or so before I replace the plugs, but I will let you know how it goes. Thanks again. Billy : > My 2002 S-type 3.0 is due for new plugs, can't for to take it to my local : > jag dealer, so I would like to do it myself. I found a site that gives a : > detail description on changing the plugs on the same engine in the X-type. http://3litermotorproject.blogspot.com/2006/01/motor-project-5-changing-plugs.html : > With the x-type being front wheel drive everything is shifted 90 degrees, : > so [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] : : Peter
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