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Why does this newsgroup receive so few posts and responses. Over the past year I have to look after three of my cars an one for a relative. My Jag X-Type, my GMC Jimmy, my Ford Taurus, and my relatives Camry. I read on a daily basis the news groups for Ford, Camry, 4x4 Chevy-Truck and this one. This newsgroup is totally dead in comparison to the others. I am sure there are a significant number Jag owners, so the question is why are there so few posts and answers? I posted a question concerning the auto trans for my X-Type a day and a half ago, there is not a single reply. I think this is typical of the activity on the group, but why? Double Tap There are plenty of dedicated Jag owners. Is there perhaps another newsgroup? If so, I'd like to know which it is! (Maybe Jag owners are too busy in the workshop and haven't enough time to be wannabes posting here!) > Why does this newsgroup receive so few posts and responses. > Over the past year I have to look after three of my cars an one for a [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Double Tap Double Tap, This is an excellent question, and one I have often wondered about myself. I think part of the answer may lie in the fact that there is a Jag Forum site which is much more formally organized, but which probably diverts users from this newsgroup. Also, there is a lot of soft porn stuff that finds its way into this group due to its informal nature and this may also detract. On the other hand, there have been issues that sparked incredible response -- the fuel issue for example. But overall, I don't have a clear answer. Maybe your question will spark an interesting discussion of this important issue. Strick 2001 Vanden Plas Victoria BC Canada > Why does this newsgroup receive so few posts and responses. > Over the past year I have to look after three of my cars an one for a [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Double Tap The place to get your answers is here: http://www.jaguarforum.co.uk/ Plenty of activity everyday, search the posts and your issues have probably already been covered. Pop along and say hello. > Why does this newsgroup receive so few posts and responses. > Over the past year I have to look after three of my cars an one for a [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Double Tap http://forums.jag-lovers.org/ > Why does this newsgroup receive so few posts and responses. > Over the past year I have to look after three of my cars an one for a [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Double Tap This group has become a place where people just drop by for help and leave. Very few hang around and stare a a single page, other websites have numerous groups and happenings, which is more attractive. I used to be a regular here but I have knack for offending people since FORD took their existing models to fill their product line , so I now lay low. I spoke how the new transmissions are poor and problematic only to be lambasted as a FORD hater (I was raised on FORDS). Now look, people are not buying Jags and FORD is on the rocks. If FORD had strived like Toyota to build a great product instead of greedily designing transmissions to fail, Jag might have come out of the dark ages. That said a huge amount of Jaguar owners have sold their cars for something a little more reliable, and more importantly, retains a greater resale value. In this group are still some good people that can get you answers others sites cant provide. In fact this group is referenced by numerous autoforums that gleen their posts from others and act as if their community is where that author resides. BD >> Why does this newsgroup receive so few posts and responses. >> Over the past year I have to look after three of my cars an one for a [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > > BD Blake, That was a quite interesting response to my post. My interest was peaked when you mention the auto transmission. In my previous post I asked about the fact that there seems to be no mention in the owners manual about servicing the transmission. By going to one of the Jaguar forums I found much my great surprise and I hope not future chagrin that there is no dip stick to check and no recommendation as to when the factory would like a fluid and filter change. Double tap > >> Why does this newsgroup receive so few posts and responses. > >> Over the past year I have to look after three of my cars an one for a [quoted text clipped - 48 lines] > > - Show quoted text - Yes, these transmissions use a special fluid, that, if mixied with other types of fluid would destoy the seals and friction disks. There is a special tool (Tube) that you use to check the fluid. Jaguar has had numerous firmware updates to try to resolve numerous complaints of slow shifts and early failures. You should take the plunge and either call a dealer with your serial number, or take your car in for evaluation. Dealer needs to look up your car and firmware number to see if your car has been serviced under all recalls. Owners that refuse to work with dealers may never find out that there has been recalls and miss out on the chance to improve their Cat. FORD has been known since the 70's to program transmissions to shift softly; this is great for around town, but when you want to put your foot down the slow shifts cause clutch slippage, and then over time, a failure. Firmware can speed the shifts and virtually eliminate shift slippage. You can service the transmission filter, but to fill the transmission you will need to rent/borrow the trans tool from the dealer or buy one for yourself. Best of luck! BD Double Tap makes an excellent point, I am in deep trouble with my XJR at the moment, but there seems little point in sharing my travails in this forum. Richard Lichten If you were in deep trouble with your XJ40 1988 model, there would be every point :-) > Double Tap makes an excellent point, I am in deep trouble with my XJR > at the moment, but there seems little point in sharing my travails in > this forum. > > Richard Lichten > Double Tap makes an excellent point, I am in deep trouble with my XJR > at the moment, but there seems little point in sharing my travails in > this forum. > > Richard Lichten Yet you take the time to post this Balouska. Are your troubles still with your exhaust? Your headlight washers? Ah never mind... > > Double Tap makes an excellent point, I am in deep trouble with my XJR > > at the moment, but there seems little point in sharing my travails in [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Are your troubles still with your exhaust? Your headlight washers? > Ah never mind... No, transmission this time. What's a Balouska? Richard (not so thick as to miss sarcasm) Lichten:) > > > Double Tap makes an excellent point, I am in deep trouble with my XJR > > > at the moment, but there seems little point in sharing my travails in [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Richard (not so thick as to miss sarcasm) Lichten:) Richard, I must excuse myself, I am easily irritated when I am without my Courvoisier. I would like to try to assist you with your transmission issues, especially those models with the Mercedes Benz or ZF band-less transmissions. Balouska simply means "non-sense". Regards, Blake > > > > Double Tap makes an excellent point, I am in deep trouble with my XJR > > > > at the moment, but there seems little point in sharing my travails in [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > - Show quoted text - I'd be more than happy to send you a bottle of brandy of your choice if it'll get my bloody car running properly again. The car is currently in Crewe where someone is running a diagnostic for me. When I know the results I'll let you know.. À votre santé Richard Surely, it's a musical instrument or a Russian peasant woman? >> > > Double Tap makes an excellent point, I am in deep trouble with my XJR >> > > at the moment, but there seems little point in sharing my travails in [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > Regards, > Blake > Surely, it's a musical instrument or a Russian peasant woman? Aalaan, "Babushka" refers to "Grandmother" in Russian. Balouska is non-sense, and if it does have a real definition, it is by accident. I knew. My tongue was in my cheek. There isn't a smiley (old type) for that, I think! >> Surely, it's a musical instrument or a Russian peasant woman? > > Aalaan, > > "Babushka" refers to "Grandmother" in Russian. Balouska is non-sense, > and if it does have a real definition, it is by accident. > Why does this newsgroup receive so few posts and responses. > Over the past year I have to look after three of my cars an one for a [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Double Tap >> Why does this newsgroup receive so few posts and responses. >> Over the past year I have to look after three of my cars an one for a [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >> >> Double Tap I to own a jag..... posted a question, and a week later I got one response.... I guess I was lucky....I suppose most jag owners just bring their car to a dealer to be fixed instead of fixing them them selves.... Fwed Nonsense! We spend most of the time under our cars, and only a little at the keyboard! XJ40, 420 and 3.8 owner. >>> Why does this newsgroup receive so few posts and responses. >>> Over the past year I have to look after three of my cars an one for a [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > Fwed I bought the CD for my Jag along with the factory shop manual..............it answers most of my questions. I have a Xj6 and have little problems with it other than rust. > Why does this newsgroup receive so few posts and responses. > Over the past year I have to look after three of my cars an one for a [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Double Tap Try roadfly.com > > Why does this newsgroup receive so few posts and responses. > > Over the past year I have to look after three of my cars an one for a [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > - Show quoted text - Yes try roadfly and hang around with braggards.... > > - Show quoted text - > > Yes try roadfly and hang around with braggards....- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Honestly, Usenet is truly for diehard computer people with great skills. This group's archives are full of good information if you have fostered great search techniques, however it should be noted that activity for this group began a major decline about 5 years ago. Jaguar communities such as Jaglovers.com and Motorcars limited have wonderful moderated forums with well trained people spending their time to try to help Jaguar owners. I am an ex-Roadfly member and found that the Jaguar groups were full of fanatical owners with very little input that helps. Things may have changed for Roadfly Jaguar groups, but it really was lacking technical information not too long ago. However if you own a BMW, or in some cases a Mercedes, there is no better place to be as the Roadfly BMW/Mercedes groups are full of wonderful information and people. Jaguar owners need to do everything possible to help themselves before going onto the internet for help and relying on others to solve their problems. 1. Most public, main libraries have professional "Motor" shop manuals. These publications are broken down into groups such as - engine, performance, transmission, electrical, and so on. Searching these texts will require patience and cognitive ability as answers and information simply "flop" out of the book. YOU MUST GLEAN IT. 2. When posting on the internet - Digest the problem you have and do your best to convey it accurately. In other words, it is very difficult for others to know, even understand what it is you might be trying to say. Many people come here and ask questions that are in the owners manual and then get upset when no-one answers. This is also the same for repeat questions that can be answered by intelligently searching the archives. 3. Have you questioned your dealer as to any recalls or updates for your model. Joe Schmoe's repair shop might be able to diagnose some things, but it is the dealer that has technical updates and current information. Dealerships usually have a flat "Diagnostic" fee, which is typically under $100. Once the diagnostic has been performed you can be armed to - ask questions, access technical texts, and perform the repairs yourself. 4. Are you mechanically and electronicly inclined? Realise that Jaguars are fairly complicated electrically and electronically. You may get the answers you searched for but you may lack the tools and know-how to tackle the repair. 5. Dont throw money at your car; dont be a parts changer. Some people begin to hate an auto simply because they replaced $10,000 in parts and still did not get it repaired. It is simply insane to replace an entire ignition system when the real problem was a set of bad spark plugs... it does happen. This post and all the information above will not save this group, yet sitting around here and bitching about it does nothing constructive unless your whole aim is to troll here and lead people to "Your" group. So either be an active, constructive part of this group or go away to the group you represent. Regards, DieInterim > > > - Show quoted text - > > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > that the Jaguar groups were full of fanatical owners with very little > input that helps. Consider that things change. People come and go. Groups like that are often dominated by a few individuals who eventually move on. For the most part they set the tone while present. It's the same all over the Internet. So far Roadfly has saved me about $14,000.00. Their in-depth discussion of the timing chain tensioner issue on the XK series led me to pursue a repair I otherwise would not have done. And as it turned out my tensioners were on the brink of failure, with disastrous results and a huge repair bill looming. Now I have a much better car with a much better resale value which I can enjoy while I own it. They have helped me upgrade my stereo. They have helped me find big discounts on interior detail parts. They have helped me find more information about my car than I could get anywhere else. Then don't forget the extensive archives which you can search to your heart's content without so much as even emerging into the group itself. So it's worked out for me. The braggarts have actually proven themselves to be the very most knowledgeable and have shared that knowledge. Sure, there is the usual crap to deal with but it is a somewhat moderated forum and despite the relatively loose nature of it, it has yet to get out of control. Paul This sounds excellent Paul. What is the name of the group (or link to it)? >> > > - Show quoted text - >> > [quoted text clipped - 47 lines] > > Paul > This sounds excellent Paul. What is the name of the group (or link to it)? http://www.roadfly.com > > Why does this newsgroup receive so few posts and responses. All the Jag owners are pushing their cars along the shoulder of the road- once they get home, shower and get a nap they will reply.
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