I am not knowledgeable on car audio systems at all.
I have a few questions:
1. What has a greater impact on the sound quality of a car audio
system ?
Is it the speakers or the sound unit ie CD changer/player/radio ?
2. I have a Lexus which has a Nakamichi sound sytem. It sounds
fabulous.
When I test drove a XJ8 2005 Jag, the car guy said it had an Alpine
sound system giving me the impression that it was a premium sound
system. However, I did not care for it. So I am confused.
My 15 year old son says if I want better sound, all I have to do is to
upgrade the speakers. Is that true ?
He says it is very easy to install better quality speakers on a Jag.
Again is this true ?
I thought the CD changer made a greater impact on the sound quality.
My son claims the speakers make all the difference.
3. What are the standard and premium sound systems in 2004 / 2005
Jags ? ( specifically XJ8)
Thanks for your help in advance,
Irfan Ballard
California
> 1. What has a greater impact on the sound quality of a car audio
> system ?
I'm no expert on car audio, but I have had an interest in HiFi in
general for many years.
In every HiFi system I have ever encountered, the greatest increase in
sound quality came from better speakers. This is why my home HiFi has a
relatively low-cost SONY 400-CD jukebox, an up-market QUAD amplifier and
eye-wateringly expensive (for me) KEF speakers which currently sell for
around $9000.
This is because it is relatively easy to get the audio input right, it
gets harder to amplify it accurately and it is very hard to then turn
the amplified signal back into sound accurately.
It is even harder to get the speakers right in a car, because it is a
very hostile environment for audio.
Without doubt, others will pour scorn on my choice of components, but
they match my ears. You can only judge the results of HiFi systems by
using your own ears! (This is especially true for the speakers. If you
are into vinyl LP's, then the audio pickup and pre-amplifier become
problem areas. You won't come across this in your car, though)
One last point - the requirements dwindle with age, as your hearing
degrades, losing its sensitivity to high frequencies steadily from the
age of around 13. There is hope that this process will be reversible in
the not too distant future, so invest now - your system requirements
might start going up again.
> My 15 year old son says if I want better sound, all I have to do is to
> upgrade the speakers. Is that true ?
Almost certainly your son's ears can hear better than yours. But in the
end, you need a system that plays your style of program best. I doubt
that your tastes in music overlap significantly (though I was a great
fan of Handel, Vivaldi and Mussorgsky at the age of 15).
> I thought the CD changer made a greater impact on the sound quality.
> My son claims the speakers make all the difference.
Modern electronic components make it relatively straightforward to get
excellent CD quality cheaply. Because of the car's motion, the CD drive
needs to be robust (the one in my car just failed, after 10 years, for
example) but you'd be wasting your money upgrading the CD if the
speakers were incapable of delivering the sound you want.

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Paul Gover - 16 Apr 2009 08:35 GMT
>> 1. What has a greater impact on the sound quality of a car audio
>> system ?
> ...
> It is even harder to get the speakers right in a car, because it is a
> very hostile environment for audio.
> ...
The biggest impact is that you're in a car. Not only are the acoustics of a
car terrible, not only is it impossible to place speakers sensibly, but
there's a load of mechanical noise from the engine and suspension and wind.
The usual solution to improving sound quality in a car is (a) lots of
soundproofing to keep the other noises out (Jaguars do well here), (b) lots
of speakers (which tends to be what the high-end sound systems) to get round
the acoustic deficiencies of the cabin, and (c) turn the volume up because
louder sounds better.
Processing the sound source also helps - compressing the volume range, and
emphasising frequencies that otherwise get masked by engine, suspension and
wind noise. I have some old sound processing software for copying vinyl to
CD that comes with a "car" filter. IMHO you get some of the same effect
with MP3 compression - that removes "background" sounds to reduce the size
of the file, and I find the results are more listenable than the original in
a car. But it's not HiFi.
I'm not sure what's the standard sound system on the XJ8 you are looking at,
but it's quite probably Alpine. Don't forget that luxury cars start at a
higher level, so their standard sound systems are lesser cars' premium
systems. On the current XF, for example, the premium sound system is AFAIR
a B&W setup at several £1000 extra.
Swifty - 16 Apr 2009 10:59 GMT
> Processing the sound source also helps - compressing the volume range, and
> emphasising frequencies that otherwise get masked by engine, suspension and
> wind noise.
You remind me of the system I had in my first car, a Panasonic, IIRC.
Like many youngsters, my sound system cost more than the car.
It had two automatic sound processors. One just compressed the volume
range, so there were no really quiet passages. The other controlled the
overall volume such that it was louder when the ambient noise in the car
was louder (being a cheap car, making it move caused lots of ambient
noise!).
The latter processor is what I've missed ever since. No having to turn
the volume down when you stopped at traffic lights was sheer bliss!

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> I am not knowledgeable on car audio systems at all.
>
> I have a few questions:
>
> 1. What has a greater impact on the sound quality of a car audio
> system ?
Your ears
> Is it the speakers or the sound unit ie CD changer/player/radio ?
Your brain- if you think louder is better your IQ is 2 digits
> 2. I have a Lexus which has a Nakamichi sound sytem. It sounds
> fabulous.
> When I test drove a XJ8 2005 Jag, the car guy said it had an Alpine
> sound system giving me the impression that it was a premium sound
> system. However, I did not care for it. So I am confused.
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> My 15 year old son says if I want better sound, all I have to do is to
> upgrade the speakers. Is that true ?
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