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Car Forum / Jaguar Cars / February 2006

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Help!  My 91" xjs won't start.  tia

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chuck - 20 Jan 2004 22:16 GMT
Hi,
I have a 91' xjs 12 cyl that cranks and cranks but won't start.  The fuel
pump is working and getting juice but there's no spark at the other end.
I've cleaned off corrsion at the wire that go to the starting coil which
worked for a while but now it's back and less fixable it seems.  There is
also a slow drain on the battery (maybe from an improperly removed alarm?)
that I haven't traced down yet.  I'm not sure if there is any relationship.
Does any of this ring a bell?  The enging cranks but gets no spark.  Any
help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Charlie
IhateSpammers - 30 Jan 2004 12:07 GMT
Check out the crankshaft position sensor. If this goes, it'll crank and
crank but will never start.

> Hi,
> I have a 91' xjs 12 cyl that cranks and cranks but won't start.  The fuel
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> Thanks,
> Charlie
chuck - 01 Feb 2004 22:11 GMT
THanks for the info.  It was the crank shaft position sensor.  It had a
corroded plug.  That was pretty astute trouble shooting from afar and I
appreciate your response.
Thanks,
Charlie
> Check out the crankshaft position sensor. If this goes, it'll crank and
> crank but will never start.
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> > Thanks,
> > Charlie
tazzer - 04 Feb 2006 15:06 GMT
it seems like a drain somewhere      it dont take much to jump it
Oldbie - 10 Feb 2004 15:30 GMT
Chuck,

This is my first time reading/posting to this group - I'm usually
farting around on ramva - old vw's.

I've just returned to Toronto (cold) after 23 years in the orient.  My
brother's just loaned me his old 1990 XJ6, and I seem to have the same
"crank & crank & crank & no start" problem.

It ran fine last week, had a coupla slow starts one day and fired up
perfectly afterward each time, but after that, and now, won't start at
all.

I'm not used to working on such modern - hahaha - cars.  I'm an
excellent mechanic, but have no experience on injectors/computerized
engines, etc.  although I do a lot of work on PC's and real time
instrument interfaces to them.

I read the manual and the XJ6 has a similar crankshaft sensor, and
there does not seem to be an ECU failure code available for it.

I suppose it's located at the front  - what - half way up the RHS of
the  - what's that coggy wheel in the diagram - a timing drive pulley?

I'll check it in the morning.

What's the easy/safe way to check for fuel available at the injectors?

Can I just stick a spare plug on a wire to see if there's a spark, as
I usually do?

Thanks for any advice - I'll be a Jaguar mechanic by the weekend.

- Tom

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>Check out the crankshaft position sensor. If this goes, it'll crank and
>crank but will never start.
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>> Thanks,
>> Charlie
chuck - 12 Feb 2004 08:31 GMT
THanks for the info.  I don't know much about working on these cars but I do
know that you can check for a spark the old fashioned way as you mentioned.
I"m not sure about fuel available exept to listent to the fuel pump ( in the
trunk on my car) or listening near the engine, you can hear the fuel
flowing.  Don't know if that helps......  On my car, the connector to the
crank angle sensor was dirty and a little corroded, so I think that was the
problem.  It's been starting fine but I haven't run it in about a week.  If
it starts stopping again, and I'm getting juice up to that connector point,
I'll assume the sensors wrong, I guess.  Hope some of this helps.
regards,
charlie

> Chuck,
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> >> Thanks,
> >> Charlie
Oldbie - 13 Feb 2004 10:00 GMT
Chuck,

My mistake - it's actually a 1990 Sovereign.  Is there much of a
difference, other than the spelling?

Checked the spark - it's okay.  Ran it for a few seconds on the
quickstart spray can stuff, so I know it works, but it wouldn't run on
it's own.  We're charging the battery back up overnight, and I will
throw some gas conditioner (methanol?) in the tank. when the battery's
good I'll see if the gas is there at the fuel rail, and if not check
the pump.

If I could get the car inside overnight somewhere it'd probably start
and run okay - darn cold weather!

I've located the fuel pump - underside of vehicle under the rear left
seat - but I have no idea where that crank position sensor is.  I've
looked everywhere that I can see from below under the front of the
engine.

Can you tell me where/how to find it?  I don't think I need to touch
it this time, but maybe next time . . . ?

My brother says he's going to keep this thing till it dies, so I
better get a manual for it.

Any recommendations?

Thanks,

- Tom
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>> This is my first time reading/posting to this group - I'm usually
>> farting around on ramva - old vw's.
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