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Car Forum / Jaguar Cars / February 2004

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XJS Drain holes

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v56k - 22 Jan 2004 15:20 GMT
I have a small problem....I understand there are drain holes in an XJS (and
XJ I believe) for draining water which goes down into the heater/blower
vents in front of the windscreen - I have read in a previous post that on
the XJ these are at the "back of the front wheel arches" - and that these
get blocked very easily.

I think mine are blocked as I get some damp in the car and after a lot of
rain my blowers stop working - after a dry spell they are fine again, also
there is some small historic signs of rust on the speedometer and rev
counter.

I just cant find these pipes though - one person said "they6 are hidden
under the car but are very small" which is not a great help if somone can
tell me where these are on a 88 XJ-S (3.6) then I would be eternally
grateful - any suggestions on what to use to clear them as well would be
well received).

Many thanks.
WayneC - 22 Jan 2004 18:08 GMT
> I have a small problem....I understand there are drain holes in an XJS (and
> XJ I believe) for draining water which goes down into the heater/blower
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> Many thanks.

My recollection is that you can see formed rubber "tubes" (shaped, not
just a simple hose), about an inch-plus in diameter, that angle downward
from near the top of the firewall to the back of the front wheel arch on
each side of the engine compartment... remove them and make sure they
are clear of debris (decayed leaves, etc), and make sure the nipples
they attach to are also clear. Afterward, you could use a water hose to
try to partially fill the cavity below the vents in front of the
windshield... it should readily drain out of the well through drain
holes on each end that lead into those rubber tubes and I suspect you
could hear it flowing out (may be hard to see the water level with the
grill in place); if the tubes are blocked, water will fill the cavity,
submerging the wiper motor that resides in that cavity, and water will
run into the air vents.
v56k - 23 Jan 2004 08:52 GMT
> My recollection is that you can see formed rubber "tubes" (shaped, not
> just a simple hose), about an inch-plus in diameter, that angle downward
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> submerging the wiper motor that resides in that cavity, and water will
> run into the air vents.

Many thanks Wayne I'll have a look this weekend.
pdb - 24 Jan 2004 20:04 GMT
On my '94 XJ6, I found a pair of drain hoses in the front door hinge area.
They are only a couple of inches long and they empty onto a rubber flap
which routes the water away from the hinge itself, and directs it to pour
down the open area around the hinges.

I couldn't find anything under the wiper motor.

> > My recollection is that you can see formed rubber "tubes" (shaped, not
> > just a simple hose), about an inch-plus in diameter, that angle downward
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> Many thanks Wayne I'll have a look this weekend.
Richard - 24 Jan 2004 20:06 GMT
I think the ones mentioned under the car are the drain hoses for the
air-con unit. They can also cause a problem but usually when it is hot
and humid and a lot of water has condensed inside the unit. They pop
out under the car either side of the front of the gearbox.

It is a long time since I have owned an XJ-S but I think on my V12's
the whole wiper assembly and grille came off revealing the drain area.

Regards

Richard '98 XJR

> I just cant find these pipes though - one person said "they6 are hidden
> under the car but are very small" which is not a great help if somone can
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>
> Many thanks.
Yardslave - 24 Feb 2004 01:42 GMT
Richard is correct on the air-con drains - The big hint there is that the
leak coming out of the lower vents happens when the A/C has been running a
while, regardless of how long it's been since it rained.  It's caused by the
dash ductwork insulation drying out and falling into the drain tray clogging
the outlets.

The '"Rain drains" are boots on either side of the 'wiper well' on the fire
wall.  The boots feed into metal tubes (about an inch in diameter and just
short of a foot long)  They run forward to boots over top of the wheel well.
The drain blockage occurs because the boots cause several twists & turns
(Plus the drop along the pipe length is fairly shallow.)  If it's been
fairly dusty, the tube clogs with dirt over time.  It's fairly easy to pull
& rinse out.

It does get confusing when you have both problems at the same time.
(86XJS Owner) - Don

> I think the ones mentioned under the car are the drain hoses for the
> air-con unit. They can also cause a problem but usually when it is hot
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> >
> > Many thanks.
Chris Halpin - 24 Feb 2004 04:49 GMT
There are two sets of drains for the Aircon System.
The Plenum Drains run from the vent immediately in front of the
Windshield. These drain away rain water. They can become blocked by
dirt, dust and debris. If you lift out the black grill and pour some
water in you will see if it drains away or not. The hoses from these
areas are faily easy to follow and clean out.

The other drains are the ones that usually block and you get wet feet or
wet carpets from. These drain away the condensate formed, when the air
is chilled.
To get at these is is necessary to remove the two covers from either
side of the tunnel. For each side; There is a vent in the footwell that
has 2 screws holding it and the panel in place. Behind this panel
towards the front of the car you will see a large hose section, just
under this is the drain. It consists of a short rubber section reducing
the diameter from about 5/8" to a 1/4" plastic tube. This tube then
passes through a rubber grommet to come out to the side of the gearbox.
This is where the blockage occurs.
Pull the rubber section away from the Aircon housing and pull it up out
of the grommet and you can then clean it out. This applies to both sides
of the tunnel .
A more permanent solution is to remove the original section of hose and
reducer and replace it with a piece of plastic tube that fits neatly
over the Aircon housing. You will find this fits neatly through the hole
in the tunnel wall without the grommet.
I have done this to 3 Jags I have owned and I never had another problem.

Chris

>Richard is correct on the air-con drains - The big hint there is that the
>leak coming out of the lower vents happens when the A/C has been running a
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