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Car Forum / Jaguar Cars / April 2005Question for the group S type VS X type
I was wondering if it was my imagination or does it seem like there are more problems with the X-type verses the S-type. I don't see too many posts regarding the S-type , and a lot of posts regarding the X-type. I was just wondering. Thanks Shamus 03 S-type >I was wondering if it was my imagination or does it seem like there are more >problems with the X-type verses the S-type. I don't see too many posts >regarding the S-type , and a lot of posts regarding the X-type. My S-type goes in to the d**ler next week to have the following fixed under warranty: heated front screen coil (second one) wheel bearing Its still better than the X-types they lend me when they have it. Alex > >I was wondering if it was my imagination or does it seem like there are more > >problems with the X-type verses the S-type. I don't see too many posts [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Its still better than the X-types they lend me when they have it. Oh. So how many *reliability issues* have you encountered in the X-Type? Or maybe you didn't understand the question ... -- C.R. Krieger '02 X-Type 3.0 Sport 5-speed >> >I was wondering if it was my imagination or does it seem like there are more >> >problems with the X-type verses the S-type. I don't see too many posts [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >Oh. So how many *reliability issues* have you encountered in the >X-Type? Or maybe you didn't understand the question ... Never owned an x-type, but perhaps Mr Krieger didn't understand the answer. My S-type is a better car to drive than any of the x types I have been lent. Alex > >> My S-type goes in to the d**ler next week to have the following fixed > >> under warranty: [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > answer. My S-type is a better car to drive than any of the x types I > have been lent. I understood perfectly. We were discussing *reliability*. You recited a list of problems with your S-Type. You then stated that it was *better* than the X-Types you were lent. You were apparently changing the subject from reliability to something else. If you think your blanket statement is true, then I'd be willing to bet you haven't been lent a 3.0 Sport AWD model and, even if so, you've never driven it in snow ... -- C.R. Krieger (Been there; done that) >> >> My S-type goes in to the d**ler next week to have the following fixed >> >> under warranty: [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] >bet you haven't been lent a 3.0 Sport AWD model and, even if so, >you've never driven it in snow ... Have driven one, it cornered like it was in a groove. Wonderful handling, great acceleration, but not as comfortable as my S-type. The 2.0 X-type was a nasty experience. Didn't like it at all. I've not driven an X-type in the snow, but I'm sure the AWD drive is good, but it's not really an issue where I live. There's only been one day with any snow on roads, and that was only a covering. I can imagine S-types being a bit tricky on standard tyres in snow. As with everything else, it's a matter of individual preference. Alex I got caught in a quick snow storm in our S-Type R. It was not a pleasant situation. More than a bit tricky, I would say. We live in the hills of SW Pennsylvania and even the slightest snow covered grade was a serious problem for the S-Type R, with its wide summer-only tires. Dont know how it would be with some grippy Blizzaks, but dont intend to find out. I'll pay more attention to the forecast in the future. T >>> >> My S-type goes in to the d**ler next week to have the following fixed >>> >> under warranty: [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > >Alex > I got caught in a quick snow storm in our S-Type R. It was not a > pleasant situation. More than a bit tricky, I would say. We live in [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > intend to find out. I'll pay more attention to the forecast in the > future. Ah! My old neighborhood, only 75-100 miles east! Yeah; those tires would suck out loud in the hills. A nice set of V-rated Dunlop M3s as I mentioned elsewhere in this thread would transform the beast into a Snow Monster. -- C.R. Krieger (Been there; drove that) > >If you think your blanket statement is true, then I'd be willing to > >bet you haven't been lent a 3.0 Sport AWD model and, even if so, > >you've never driven it in snow ... > > Have driven one, it cornered like it was in a groove. Wonderful > handling, great acceleration, but not as comfortable as my S-type. It's small. No question about it. My wife and I are each 5'6" tall, so the car fits like a glove. I've also driven the S-Type and wouldn't mind having one after I finally convince the wife I ought to spend that much. Until then, it's the old 535is for fun and the Grand Cherokee as the Family Truckster. > The 2.0 X-type was a nasty experience. Didn't like it at all. Don't blame you. The smallest engine here in the US is the 2.5 and *it* isn't all that exhilarating. > I've not driven an X-type in the snow, but I'm sure the AWD drive is > good, but it's not really an issue where I live. It's better than good. On the set of Dunlop M3 snow tires we have, it's *stunning* (and this from a guy who has *always* lived where there's plenty of snow). The traction control can do things off a snowy intersection that I wouldn't even attempt (and I'm known as a lunatic in snow). > There's only been one > day with any snow on roads, and that was only a covering. I can > imagine S-types being a bit tricky on standard tyres in snow. > > As with everything else, it's a matter of individual preference. As well as where you happen to live. Enjoy the S. I'm jealous, even if I hide it well. -- C.R. Krieger (Been there; drove that) X-type -v- S-type. I live in Sydney and we don't get much snow here. However, the x-type really doesn't drive or rdie like a jaguar. Before you say anything about the handling, I do have an SE with a sports pack fitted as I regularly take my cars on track days. If I wanted a rough riding AWD I might have bought an x-type 2.5 AWD (and yes I have driven one) I dread going to get the S-type serviced as I know I will end up driving an x-type. > I was wondering if it was my imagination or does it seem like there are more > problems with the X-type verses the S-type. I don't see too many posts [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Shamus > 03 S-type 1) X-Type sells in far greater volume than S-Type. 2) S-Type has been on the market longer than X-type and has thus been shaken out a bit more. 3) X-Type is derived from a far less refined platform than S-Type. 4) Very early X-Types had several chronic problems that have been for the most part sorted by now. Summarizing the motoring press re: X-Type, it promises more than it delivers and doesn't match up well with 3 Series, C Class or the Infiniti G35. Some claim it's not even a good matchup one tier down, with cars like the Volvo S60. Biggest issue is the basic platform, Ford tried to fast-track a product into the Euro near-luxury segment based upon an econ o-box using their typical "parts bin engineering". Once again, Ford learns they cannot make chicken salad out of chicken poop. However, Ford has now followed up a lackluster engineering effort with their usual means of clearing out inventories: Price reductions and incentives. X-Type may not be a class leader, but it can be had for cheap. Good thing, becuase the residuals on it horrid, particularly vs. 3 Series. Get the BMW and sleep easy. > > I was wondering if it was my imagination or does it seem like there are > more [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > leader, but it can be had for cheap. Good thing, becuase the residuals on it > horrid, particularly vs. 3 Series. Get the BMW and sleep easy. Yes - thats ONE summary of the motoring press - sprinkled liberally with personal opinion. >> > I was wondering if it was my imagination or does it seem like there >> > are [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] > Yes - thats ONE summary of the motoring press - sprinkled liberally > with personal opinion. The S type is a completely different vehicle compared to an X type! I drove each before buying an S type without hesitation. It's sooo much better. No comparison, hands down. Go for the V8 and get speed, excellent response, and a smooth ride. Forget the X type trust me.
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