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Car Forum / Jaguar Cars / June 2004

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Use of Jag. navigation system while driving

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Rob B. - 19 May 2004 15:52 GMT
It is a nuisance that the Jaguar navigation system in my S-type (2000) can
not be instructed while driving. Often the frontpassenger can do it without
any safety risk.
Would anybody know how to remove the limitation such that it can be used
without having to park the car ?
I would be grateful for your advise.
Regards,
Rob Boddeke
C.R. Krieger - 19 May 2004 18:53 GMT
> It is a nuisance that the Jaguar navigation system in my S-type (2000) can
> not be instructed while driving. Often the frontpassenger can do it without
> any safety risk.

It's a lot *more* of a nuisance when somebody who's distractedly
messing about with the nav system crashes into someone else - like me.

> Would anybody know how to remove the limitation such that it can be used
> without having to park the car ?

I don't know and, even if I did, I wouldn't tell you.  The temptation
would be too great.

> I would be grateful for your advise.

You have it.  You're welcome.
--
C.R. Krieger
(Been there; stopped to do that)
DieInterim - 20 May 2004 02:40 GMT
> It is a nuisance that the Jaguar navigation system in my S-type (2000) can
> not be instructed while driving. Often the frontpassenger can do it without
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> Regards,
> Rob Boddeke

Dear Rob,

I must agree with Mr Krieger, it is a huge liability to explain how to
defeat this saftey interlock. You got that right, its a saftey
interlock. Now it may not be implemented to protect you, but as Mr
Krieger mentioned, it is designed to protect "us".

There are ways around this, but also be warned, that the computers on
these cars also function very much like an airplanes "black box". In
other words, it gathers information and this information can be used
against you if an accident was to occour. Now is it really worth the
risk? No.

Freedom, it is not as we might wish it.

DieInterim
andy emblow - 21 May 2004 12:30 GMT
i use a laptop in my car while driving with voice sat nav
and i dont consider it dangerous at all thats the whole point of sat nav in
a car ?
is it not more dangerous to drive about not knowing where you are going?

as for fiddling about with it while driving theres only one key to press to
recalculate the route if you did get lost or stray from the sat nav route

so its no more dangerous than using a car radio of even winding the window
up or down while driving

just seems stupid to have sat nav in a car that cant be used while driving
:)

all the best
andy
>> It is a nuisance that the Jaguar navigation system in my S-type (2000)
>> can
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>
> DieInterim
C.R. Krieger - 24 May 2004 22:00 GMT
> i use a laptop in my car while driving with voice sat nav
> and i dont consider it dangerous at all thats the whole point of sat nav in
> a car ?

You might not.  I do.

> is it not more dangerous to drive about not knowing where you are going?

One can always stop to figure it out or, in this case, reset a
destination.

> as for fiddling about with it while driving theres only one key to press to
> recalculate the route if you did get lost or stray from the sat nav route

Not even that many.  The X-Type system automatically recalculates.

> so its no more dangerous than using a car radio of even winding the window
> up or down while driving
>
> just seems stupid to have sat nav in a car that cant be used while driving
> :)

It's not that it can't be *used*; it's that it can't be *reprogrammed*
while the car is in motion.  The interface is not all that intuitive
and even the 'keyboard' display isn't arranged in a 'QWERTY' pattern,
but is alphabetical!  Try typing in a street name *on that* while
you're driving ...

That was the original poster's wish.  This is much *more* than opening
a window or changing the radio station.  In my (and Jaguar's) opinion,
it is a dangerous distraction that can be, and properly is,
prohibited.
--
C.R. Krieger
(Been there; done that)
andy - 24 May 2004 22:26 GMT
i understand now i have re read the the post and agree 100% its a dangerous
thing to do type and drive
:)

>> i use a laptop in my car while driving with voice sat nav
>> and i dont consider it dangerous at all thats the whole point of sat nav
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> C.R. Krieger
> (Been there; done that)
Rob B. - 25 May 2004 14:02 GMT
As the original poster of the query I like to react to the discussion sofar.
My intention is not at all to enable the driver to 'reprogram' the sat nav
while driving because I fully realize the safety hazard.
The point I was making is that often the co-driver / frontpassenger could
easily adjust or reprogram the system if it wasn't blocked. That was my
starting point for my question how I could technically do that.
Regards,
Rob
(a responsable and safety-conscious person !!)

> i understand now i have re read the the post and agree 100% its a dangerous
> thing to do type and drive
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> > C.R. Krieger
> > (Been there; done that)
C.R. Krieger - 26 May 2004 17:38 GMT
> As the original poster of the query I like to react to the discussion sofar.
> My intention is not at all to enable the driver to 'reprogram' the sat nav
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> Rob
> (a responsable and safety-conscious person !!)

I understand that.  I also understand temptation.  It's not
necessarily you that I mistrust to use this information properly; it's
*them*.
--
C.R. Krieger
("I know nossing!" - Schulz)
Iain Morrison - 05 Jun 2004 20:38 GMT
I have this system, and have asked dealers in numerous places about this and
all say that it cant be done, the same app-lies to the TV as well above 5
kms hr.

suggest you ask on jagtalk.com in case you have better luck than me.

There are a few service techs on that ng that may have a better informed.

rgds,

> As the original poster of the query I like to react to the discussion sofar.
> My intention is not at all to enable the driver to 'reprogram' the sat nav
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> > > C.R. Krieger
> > > (Been there; done that)
 
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