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Car Forum / Jaguar Cars / June 2004

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Mk2 - Fastest "something" on the planet?

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Graham L - 07 Jun 2004 23:45 GMT
I've heard of a claim, probably an advertising slogan, made for the Mk 2
that it was the fastest "something" on the planet. Presumably it would have
been close to being the fastest production saloon. Anyone got a source for
this?
GrahamL
Blake Dodson - 12 Jun 2004 05:15 GMT
> I've heard of a claim, probably an advertising slogan, made for the Mk 2
> that it was the fastest "something" on the planet. Presumably it would have
> been close to being the fastest production saloon. Anyone got a source for
> this?
> GrahamL

Hi,

I gave it a good try. No luck. Hit some old clubs and see if anyone
has info for you.

Cheers,
Blake
Graham L - 12 Jun 2004 13:30 GMT
> Hi,
>
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> Cheers,
> Blake

Thanks, Blake.
I asked the question in another forum and it somehow ended up as a "mine is
bigger than yours" debate.  Some goose had a conspiracy theory that the
Daimler 2.5L V8 was faster than the Mark 2 but Sir William stopped them from
being raced so it was never evident.  I think he should keep taking the
tablets.

Graham
David Betts - 13 Jun 2004 07:55 GMT
>> I gave it a good try. No luck. Hit some old clubs and see if anyone
>> has info for you.
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>Daimler 2.5L V8 was faster than the Mark 2 but Sir William stopped them from
>being raced so it was never evident.

Some obvious confusion here. The Daimler story actually relates to the
4.5 litre V8 from the Majestic Major. Jaguar put one in a Mk10, but
decided not to take the idea any further because the Daimler version
was so much faster than the Jaguar.

As to whether the Mk2 was ever advertised as 'the fastest four-door
family saloon on the planet' or something similar, I have no idea but
I rather doubt it. Doesn't sound like Jaguar's style to me. The 'Mk1'
and Mk2 clearly dominated production saloon racing in the UK for many
years. The Mk2 also won the European Touring Car Championship at least
once and dominated the saloon category in the Tour de France for
years.

They got a sharp warning when Dan Gurney brought over a Chevrolet
coupe, though.....and were firmly put in their place when Ford shipped
over the Holman and Moody Galaxies for Willment and Sir Gawaine
Baillie.

David Betts (davidb@motorsport.org.uk)
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Classic Car Fair - 16 Jun 2004 05:50 GMT
> >> I gave it a good try. No luck. Hit some old clubs and see if anyone
> >> has info for you.
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> David Betts (davidb@motorsport.org.uk)
> The Classic Car Gallery: http://www.ofoto.com/I.jsp?m=17830847103&n=398038677

....and then came the Lotus Cortinas and Mini Coopers...
Classic Car Fair - 16 Jun 2004 05:55 GMT
> >> I gave it a good try. No luck. Hit some old clubs and see if anyone
> >> has info for you.
[quoted text clipped - 24 lines]
> David Betts (davidb@motorsport.org.uk)
> The Classic Car Gallery: http://www.ofoto.com/I.jsp?m=17830847103&n=398038677

And then came the Mini Coopers and Lotus Cortinas? Among several
[restrospectively called?] Mark 1s I've owned, the 3.4 mo/d with drum
brakes would have to be the most lethal. Fast, but frightening brakes.
Several near-death experiences. Was this what Mike Hawthorn was driving?
Cheers, Neil

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David Betts - 16 Jun 2004 07:50 GMT
> Among several
>[restrospectively called?] Mark 1s I've owned, the 3.4 mo/d with drum
>brakes would have to be the most lethal. Fast, but frightening brakes.
>Several near-death experiences. Was this what Mike Hawthorn was driving?

It was, but his accident was nothing to do with brakes. I believe his
factory-prepared, competition spec. 3.4 compact saloon <g> had discs.
Discs were introduced on the production 3.4s fairly rapidly in
response to considerable press comment on the inadequacy of the
original drums.

David Betts (davidb@motorsport.org.uk)
The Classic Car Gallery: http://www.ofoto.com/I.jsp?m=17830847103&n=398038677

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