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Car Forum / Jaguar Cars / August 2004

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How big a problem is Nikasil?

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truegrit - 18 Aug 2004 00:44 GMT
I know the subject of Nikasil has been discussed ad nauseum but --

I'm considering a 1998 XJR with about 76,000 miles on it.  Supposedly
no rough idle (I haven't actually seen it yet).  Before forking my
cash over, should I:

- insist on getting a compression check?  I read somewhere that a
simple air filter check (to see if it is covered in oil) suffices.

- If it is problem free with 76,000 miles on it, is it safe to assume
that the Nikasil liners are and will continue to be OK? (the car has
been in the Western United States for the its entire life)

- It is covered by a 30 day/1000 mile warranty; however the warranty
states that it does not cover repair "of valves and/or rings for the
purpose of raising the engine's compression when a breakdown has not
occurred."  I interpret this to mean that if after I buy it, take it
to a mechanic and discover the compression is too low, the warranty
will not cover it unless the engine has completely broken down.
Opinions?

- How much would it cost to get resleeved?

- Should I simply forgo the pre-1999 models and focus instead on later
models?  I assume they stopped using Nikasil in late 1999?  I think I
read somewhere you can tell if it has non-Nikasil liners if it as "F"
in the last six digits of the VIN.  Is this correct?

Sorry for all the questions.  I am attempting to become a Jaguar owner
and would like the first experience to be a pleasant one.  Thanks in
advance.
webserve - 18 Aug 2004 09:48 GMT
Greetings,
   Whilst I have no first hand experience with the Nikasil engine, I did a
lot of research for a client of mine who was considering the purchase of a
Jaguar with the Nikasil engine.
   My suggestion to you is that you simply go to Google or some other
search engine and put in the word "Nikasil"  There is plenty of information
on the topic.
   Basically, from what I discovered, the Nikasil problem is caused by the
high sulfur content of US and UK fuels. These fuels will rapidly destroy the
lining in the engine. Engines have been known to go in as short a period
time as 30,000 miles.
   The Nikasil problem was way too much a risk for my client and he opted
out of the Jag he was looking at.

Cheers
Webserve

> I know the subject of Nikasil has been discussed ad nauseum but --
>
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> and would like the first experience to be a pleasant one.  Thanks in
> advance.
C.R. Krieger - 18 Aug 2004 20:35 GMT
> I know the subject of Nikasil has been discussed ad nauseum but --

One of the best discussions you'll find on *the effects of* a Nikasil
block (but with BMW-specific information) is at my pal, Brett
Anderson's, site at www.koalamotorsport.com.  After reading that and
getting some Jaguar specifics (Does this *particular* car have a
Nikasil block and does Jaguar have an assistance plan for it?), you
can make an informed decision.
--
C.R. Krieger
(Been there; done that)
Jerry McG - 24 Aug 2004 14:41 GMT
> I know the subject of Nikasil has been discussed ad nauseum but -->

The use of Nikasil casting began in the '70's with Porsche's 928 and has
been a continuing problem for all mfr's using the technology. Recently  BMW
has had the  most noteable problems in terms of volume, but Jaguar has had
to deal with the issue as well, particularly on early XK8s.

Problems with Nikasil technology can't seem to prevent engineers from using
it, as it's a superb weight saver. Consider that while Ford chose to use an
AJV8 derivative in the Lincoln LS and Thuderbird, they used steel cylinder
liners rather than Nikasil technology. The new 4.2 AJ engine being used in
Jaguars is also using steel liners. I fiond it ironic that in 1986 Jaguar
engineers chose to use steel liners in the then-new AJ6 engine, and cited
Porsche's problems with the 928 as an example of why they would not consider
it for their new engine. Apparently good sense left the building when Dave
Szcupack took over engine design!
 
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