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Car Forum / Jeep / July 2006

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2000 JGC  Overheating  (Some)

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James Nipper - 27 Jul 2006 23:25 GMT
This is a V-8,   120 K    miles.    It usually runs around 200-210 degrees.
During last six months or so, it will go up the  235 degrees when traveling
over 70 mph.  It will also do this when going up a medium incline, even at
very slow speed.

It stays 100%  normal at slow speeds, and at idle, such as at a traffic
light.

Fan clutch was replaced fairly recently, that  DID relate to heating some at
idle.

I am thinking either I need radiator work or a new radiator  OR  that I may
have a bad thermostat.   I suppose I could also have  a defective water pump
at high speeds, but that wouldn't explain why it overheats on medium
inclines even at slow speeds.

BTW, some folks may say  235 degrees is normal under some circumstances. I
can assure you that this is NOT normal, as I have driven this car for six
years and I know how it performs.

What is most likely culprit?   Themostat/Water Pump/Radiator

If it is radiator, is it worth it to have it re-rodded, or is it best just
to install a new radiator?

As a non-mechanic, are these any tests I can do to narrow it down more?
(Water pump does not leak).

Thanks for any tips  !!!

--James--
XS11E - 27 Jul 2006 23:42 GMT
> What is most likely culprit?   Themostat/Water Pump/Radiator

Don't think about most likely, think about cheapest!  Thermostats are
very inexpensive so give that a shot first.  The water pump is probably
due because of the mileage on the vehicle but if it isn't leaking I'd
wait until it does.  It could cause your overheating but it's less
likely than the radiator.  It could be pretty crudded up at 120K miles.

> If it is radiator, is it worth it to have it re-rodded, or is it
> best just to install a new radiator?

I'd take a look at it.  If it has the plastic tanks I'd replace it
because the gasket that is between the tank and core will go bad sooner
or later.  If the tanks are metal you should be able to rod it out with
good results.

BTW there's dozens of other causes of overheating that are often
overlooked.  Clutch or transmission slippage, very bad wheel alignment,
dragging brakes, etc. all can contribute.  Anything that opposes the
movement of the car can cause overheating but I'd change the thermostat  
first and then take a look at the radiator.
philthy - 30 Jul 2006 15:27 GMT
and thne most simple reason low coolant level did you check the level of
the coolant

> > What is most likely culprit?   Themostat/Water Pump/Radiator
>
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> movement of the car can cause overheating but I'd change the thermostat
> first and then take a look at the radiator.
billy ray - 28 Jul 2006 04:51 GMT
How old is the coolant?

Have you added any in the last 6 months?

What kind did you add?

What does the coolant in the overflow tank look like?

Does the overflow tank look like it has a layer of 'slime' inside?

If you have the factory fill coolant is now about 7 years old and you could
have corrosion in your cooling system. a can of cooling system cleaner might
be of great use along with fresh coolant.

If you added coolant in the last six months and it was ANY brand other than
Zerex then you probably added DexCool to the system and DexCool + DC coolant
results in a reddish brown sludge which would coat and clog the system.

If you refilled the system with Prestone or Peak then you added DexCool and
your water pump,thermostat, and radiator might be complete corroded and your
engine seals damaged.

Anything mass produced sometimes is defective and gets part quality control,
check your fan clutch again.

Depending on your answers:

You may want to add a flush-n-fill tee and chemically flush the engine,
replace the thermostat and add 2 gallons of Valvoline Zerex G-05  coolant
concentrate (in the gold jug) and top it off with distilled water.  This
will give you protection of -65 to +270.

Please note:  Valvoline Zerex G-05 is the only coolant approved for the new
DC vehicles.  Older vehicles can use "American Green" but NONE can use
Prestone or Peak (or most store brands)

> This is a V-8,   120 K    miles.    It usually runs around 200-210
> degrees. During last six months or so, it will go up the  235 degrees when
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> --James--
Frank The Tank - 28 Jul 2006 11:41 GMT
: How old is the coolant?
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: > --James--

Sweet writed up!  Kudos!
 
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