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Car Forum / Jeep / September 2006

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The Tornado?

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Jeepster - 09 Sep 2006 05:16 GMT
Does the little spiral shaped device known as the Tornado actually
improve engine efficiency and power like it advertises?
DougW - 09 Sep 2006 05:43 GMT
> Does the little spiral shaped device known as the Tornado actually
> improve engine efficiency and power like it advertises?

in a word, no.

If it actually did work, vehicle makers would have
adopted it long ago.  The tornado, like the other air
swirrly things is just a scam.

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billy ray - 09 Sep 2006 06:26 GMT
Shows what you know...... it is one of the fastest and most efficient ways
of removing $69.95 (+ S/H) from your wallet.

>> Does the little spiral shaped device known as the Tornado actually
>> improve engine efficiency and power like it advertises?
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> adopted it long ago.  The tornado, like the other air
> swirrly things is just a scam.
L.W.(Bill) Hughes III - 09 Sep 2006 06:42 GMT
A fool and their money are soon parted. And there's a sucker born
every minute.
http://www.tornadofuelsaver.com/272/products.php?PHPSESSID=bad353a2ae078c6bbb85e
190edfe767f

http://www.airaid.com/
http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=697
0&productId=200310599&R=200310599&storeId=6970&langId=%2D1&cm_ven=Performics&cm_
cat=Performics&cm_pla=Performics&cm_ite=Performics



       God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/

> Shows what you know...... it is one of the fastest and most efficient ways
> of removing $69.95 (+ S/H) from your wallet.
L.W.(Bill) Hughes III - 09 Sep 2006 06:44 GMT
http://www.esuperchargers.com/
http://www.splitfire.com/

>      A fool and their money are soon parted. And there's a sucker born
> every minute.
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>         God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/
billy ray - 09 Sep 2006 06:58 GMT
There is no reason an electric supercharger can't work, I wonder how many
amps, at 12v, are needed to run a 10 hp motor.

> http://www.esuperchargers.com/
> http://www.splitfire.com/
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>>         God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>> mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/
Gene - 09 Sep 2006 13:44 GMT
> There is no reason an electric supercharger can't work, I wonder how many
> amps, at 12v, are needed to run a 10 hp motor.

> 1hp=746 watts therefore 10 hp=7,460 watts. 7,460/12=621.666 amps.
>
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> >>         God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> >> mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/
Gene - 09 Sep 2006 13:44 GMT
> There is no reason an electric supercharger can't work, I wonder how many
> amps, at 12v, are needed to run a 10 hp motor.

> 1hp=746 watts therefore 10 hp=7,460 watts. 7,460/12=621.666 amps.
>
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> >>         God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> >> mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/
Jeffrey DeWitt - 09 Sep 2006 23:01 GMT
Yes it can work, BUT to have a big enough motor to be useful it's going
to take a LOT of electrical power to make it work.  Think about the
belts and pullies that supercharged engines use, to make an electric
supercharger roughly comparable to one of these you are going to have to
pull that much power out of the cars electrical system.

Jeff DeWitt

> There is no reason an electric supercharger can't work, I wonder how many
> amps, at 12v, are needed to run a 10 hp motor.
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>>>        God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>>>mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ 
L.W.(Bill) Hughes III - 10 Sep 2006 00:09 GMT
Like about a hundred crank horsepower:
http://www.billhughes.com/supercharger.jpg
       God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com

> Yes it can work, BUT to have a big enough motor to be useful it's going
> to take a LOT of electrical power to make it work.  Think about the
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> Jeff DeWitt
Norman - 10 Sep 2006 21:41 GMT
Excellent Bill!

LOL
Norman
1982 CJ-7

>      A fool and their money are soon parted. And there's a sucker born
> every minute.

http://www.tornadofuelsaver.com/272/products.php?PHPSESSID=bad353a2ae078c6bbb85e
190edfe767f

> http://www.airaid.com/

http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=697
0&productId=200310599&R=200310599&storeId=6970&langId=%2D1&cm_ven=Performics&cm_
cat=Performics&cm_pla=Performics&cm_ite=Performics


>         God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/
>
> > Shows what you know...... it is one of the fastest and most efficient ways
> > of removing $69.95 (+ S/H) from your wallet.
L.W.(Bill) Hughes III - 09 Sep 2006 06:19 GMT
NO!
       God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/

> Does the little spiral shaped device known as the Tornado actually
> improve engine efficiency and power like it advertises?
c - 09 Sep 2006 06:26 GMT
A lot of the people that have been suckered in to buying them report a
whistling noise after they install them. So I guess it does increase the
noise performance. ;)

Chris

> Does the little spiral shaped device known as the Tornado actually
> improve engine efficiency and power like it advertises?
Lon - 09 Sep 2006 18:48 GMT
Jeepster proclaimed:

> Does the little spiral shaped device known as the Tornado actually
> improve engine efficiency and power like it advertises?

Of course it does, why would they lie?
One caution, be very careful not to put two of them in series or your
engine may become so efficient it will begin spewing raw gasoline all
over the road at high speeds.
DougW - 09 Sep 2006 18:54 GMT
> Jeepster proclaimed:
>
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> engine may become so efficient it will begin spewing raw gasoline all
> over the road at high speeds.

Which is likely what will happen when one of those silly fins
breaks off and gets sucked into the engine.

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DougW

Carl - 09 Sep 2006 19:05 GMT
It's a scam.

Carl

> Does the little spiral shaped device known as the Tornado actually
> improve engine efficiency and power like it advertises?
Simon Juncal - 12 Sep 2006 03:25 GMT
> Does the little spiral shaped device known as the Tornado actually
> improve engine efficiency and power like it advertises?

one of the consumer sites a while ago tested a bunch of those things...
the best one produced no HP or Torque increase and only slightly lowered
MPG's the others all reduced power, torque and mileage by measurable
amounts, the worst lost something like 11HP 2 MPG and was described as
looking "like it would break apart and get sucked into the intake"

The losses were due to the gizmo actually restricting air flow.

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Simon
"I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein

Stupendous Man - 12 Sep 2006 04:29 GMT
The Tornado 260 was used in Jeep trucks from about 63 to 65, but not in
Jeepsters. You don't need one
L.W.(Bill) Hughes III - 12 Sep 2006 06:08 GMT
Wrong Tornado: http://www.billhughes.com/temp/tornadoOHCengine3.jpg 
       God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com

> The Tornado 260 was used in Jeep trucks from about 63 to 65, but not in
> Jeepsters. You don't need one
Dave Milne - 12 Sep 2006 21:31 GMT
If they did, they would be as common on vehicles as tyres.

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> Does the little spiral shaped device known as the Tornado actually
> improve engine efficiency and power like it advertises?
 
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