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Car Forum / Jeep / December 2006SSB CB Usage?
Do jeepers use SSB on their CB radio? I'm shopping for CB's for my jeep. I'm not into CB as I am a ham, so I'm just wondering what features should I be looking out for. Chris Maness KQ6UP Hi Chris, I hear Citizen Band above channel 35 is in your side band frequencies, but why mess with your license, buy a fifty dollar radio. God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ > Do jeepers use SSB on their CB radio? I'm shopping for CB's for my > jeep. I'm not into CB as I am a ham, so I'm just wondering what > features should I be looking out for. > > Chris Maness > KQ6UP  SignaturePosted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com > but why mess with your license, buy a fifty dollar radio. I don't understand this part of your post. A bit vague. Hi Chris, You don't have a ham license, although I hear they're pretty easy to get now, without the Morse code tests. Or the Fifty dollar CB: http://www.radioshack.com/family/index.jsp?categoryId=2032070&cp=2032052&allCoun t=23&fbc=1&fr=StorePrice%2FRSK%2F00001000%2F00004999&fbn=Price%2F%2410.00+-+%244 9.99 God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ > > but why mess with your license, buy a fifty dollar radio. > > I don't understand this part of your post. A bit vague. > Hi Chris, > You don't have a ham license, although I hear they're pretty easy > to get now, without the Morse > code tests. > Or the Fifty dollar CB: I have been a ham since I was 14. Thats almost 20 years. > Hi Chris, > You don't have a ham license, although I hear they're pretty easy > to get now, without the Morse > code tests. Bill, you are not following along, he already has a HAM license. That was a reversal, It was meant to say the license has value, and that he wouldn't want to lose it, not following the rules with CB players. God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ > Bill, you are not following along, he already has a HAM license. > That was a reversal, It was meant to say the license has value, and > that he wouldn't want to lose it, not following the rules with CB [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > > Bill, you are not following along, he already has a HAM license. No problem. I will follow the CB rules. > Do jeepers use SSB on their CB radio? I'm shopping for CB's for my > jeep. I'm not into CB as I am a ham, so I'm just wondering what > features should I be looking out for. Truckers don't, and the Jeepers I know don't either. If you're going to spend money on SSB, go instead with a good "unlocked" import 10-12 meter radio instead; I like the Galaxy 55V, and I use it in the work truck. And before you flame me for using 10M without a licence, 99.9% of the time, we use 13M "A" channels, slide 5 khz up/down or just use FM mode, all very harmless activity and more or less, private. And it works FAR better than SSB mode; you don't even have to play with the clarifier to dial someone in. If all you're going to do is jabber with Jeepers, a $40 AM CB radio is fine. Spend the extra bucks on a good antenna intead of SSB. > > Do jeepers use SSB on their CB radio? I'm shopping for CB's for my > > jeep. I'm not into CB as I am a ham, so I'm just wondering what [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > If all you're going to do is jabber with Jeepers, a $40 AM CB radio is > fine. Spend the extra bucks on a good antenna intead of SSB. I'll heed the advice. I have the antenna part covered. Wilson 2000 and it works really well. > I'll heed the advice. I have the antenna part covered. Wilson 2000 > and it works really well. Money well spent. I run a single 3-ft. Silvertip on the big truck; it's built like iron, very weatherproof, short enough to clear load silos and it easily tunes to 1:1 SWR across the entire 13 meter band. The tuning match easily makes up for power loss due to the short height. This sucker flat-out WORKS in the real world; it's been hanging on the truck mirror for 13 years now, and still works like new. I've bought and stored 2 more just in case they quit making them. Wilson makes very good stuff. Chris, I don't know really about SSB usage, I think that most of them just use one channel when they go out on runs. I am a ham also, but have purchased a Cobra 75 WX ST CB. It is an "all in one" type of radio, controls and display are all in the handset. Look at the following link for ebay for one http://cgi.ebay.com/Brand-New-Cobra-75-WX-ST-CB-Radio-Compact-W-Weather_W0QQitem Z330055780337QQihZ014QQcategoryZ40055QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem I also use a mag mount 11 meter Wilson whip Kevin in Iowa 99XJ W0KLH > Do jeepers use SSB on their CB radio? I'm shopping for CB's for my > jeep. I'm not into CB as I am a ham, so I'm just wondering what > features should I be looking out for. > > Chris Maness > KQ6UP > Chris, I don't know really about SSB usage, I think that most of > them just use one channel when they go out on runs. I am a ham also, > but have purchased a Cobra 75 WX ST CB. It is an "all in one" type > of radio, controls and display are all in the handset. Look at the > following link for ebay for one [...snipped...] I have this radio (75 WX ST) too and am happy with it. It takes up very little space and is easy to install. Most use CB to talk to each other on the trail ("trail chatter"). My bet is that you'll find very few with SSB. Use the difference in price to get a GPS receiver. :) -- Single side-band (SSB) has never been used on any runs (including EJS and Camp Jeep) that I have been on. The least common denominator is AM (regular CB) and often below CH23. CH4 (4WD) and CH16 (for 4x4) seem to be popular. I also have Cobra WXST75 and I like it. I am not happy with where I mounted the box with the SO-239 connector so if you have a good place for it, I'd like to hear it. 73s! > Single side-band (SSB) has never been used on any runs (including EJS and > Camp Jeep) that I have been on. The least common denominator is AM (regular [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > 73s! I mounted the junction box under the front (dash end) of the console. There is plenty of room for it under there and when you take away the mic, it's invisible. I just poke the connector for the mic out from under the console to use it, and push it back under when I'm taking the mic away. tw Signature_____________________________________________________________________ 2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco "There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'." Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940 Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase') A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II. _____________________________________________________________________ Most of the Guys I see use 'garage sale' CBs or GMRS/FRS radios.. > Do jeepers use SSB on their CB radio? I'm shopping for CB's for my > jeep. I'm not into CB as I am a ham, so I'm just wondering what > features should I be looking out for. > > Chris Maness > KQ6UP So far I have found the old plain 23 channel units 'appear' to be the best. For some reason these old units have 'way' more coverage area than the new ones. I am comparing my vintage Cobra with a new Cobra and wow, the new one was a bag of dirt for coverage with an antenna tuned properly even. We have found 'lost' Jeepers way out in the bush by having one person with an old unit sit on a hill relaying messages to the folks with the new units. Eventually someone with a new unit got close enough to pick up the 'lost' person to get a direction fix on them and they got 'found'. I am in Toronto Canada and have had a 2 way conversation with Martha's Vineyard and there is one place where we off road in the near North of Ontario Canada where I regularly pick up a gent on the pacific coast on the 'sunshine coast' of BC. That sucker must be putting out big time! I 'think' I heard mention of 5000 watts, but that isn't likely right. Anyhow, we run on CH 5 or CH 16 (4x4 eh) around here so a fancy radio wouldn't help much. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590 (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) > Do jeepers use SSB on their CB radio? I'm shopping for CB's for my > jeep. I'm not into CB as I am a ham, so I'm just wondering what > features should I be looking out for. > > Chris Maness > KQ6UP > So far I have found the old plain 23 channel units 'appear' to be the > best. [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590 > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) I have an old radioshack navajo base / mobil and it's reciever seem to be awesome, but it is just too big for my new jeep. There is no place to put it. The ANL works great -- no spark plug noise. I get a slight amount of altenator whine, but that's no big deal. >> So far I have found the old plain 23 channel units 'appear' to be the >> best. [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > to put it. The ANL works great -- no spark plug noise. I get a slight > amount of altenator whine, but that's no big deal. Wow! The old Navajo in the gray case? I must have sold hundreds back in the 70's from my Main St. Radio Shack. I knew the were solid units, but still running today, that's awesome! SignatureFRH I bought the first 23 channel back in '66 from Radio Shack: http://www.billhughes.com/cbRadio.jpg God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com > Wow! The old Navajo in the gray case? I must have sold hundreds back in > the 70's from my Main St. Radio Shack. I knew the were solid units, but > still running today, that's awesome! > > -- > FRH > >> So far I have found the old plain 23 channel units 'appear' to be the > >> best. [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > the 70's from my Main St. Radio Shack. I knew the were solid units, but > still running today, that's awesome! This one is kindof a brownish case. Chris Maness KQ6UP > So far I have found the old plain 23 channel units 'appear' to be the > best. [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > > Chris Maness > > KQ6UP Anyone have any opinions on the Cobra 18 WX ST II Mobile CB? > > So far I have found the old plain 23 channel units 'appear' to be the > > best. [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > > Anyone have any opinions on the Cobra 18 WX ST II Mobile CB? Most of the talk on the CB is trail chatter and the folks with the mobile units don't seem to have any issues with them. I don't know which specific units I have seen or heard though.. Mike Chris the answer is no, Jeepers generally use the standard AM channels. Just get whatever brand or type you want or can afford. If you have special requirements or needs follow them. Before the run starts find out what channel will be used and then have fun! >> > > Do jeepers use SSB on their CB radio? I'm shopping for CB's for my >> > > jeep. I'm not into CB as I am a ham, so I'm just wondering what [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Mike > > So far I have found the old plain 23 channel units 'appear' to be the > > best. [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > > Anyone have any opinions on the Cobra 18 WX ST II Mobile CB? I went ahead and bought one. It seems ok, the recieve seems to pick up alot of white noise. Worse than the Navaho. I bought it at TA so I can return it within 45 days. I think I like the Navaho's reciever better, but the case is huge for the Jeep. Man, the new Jeeps leave you NO options for mounting. I am considering mounting it across the role bars, but I'm woried that it's going to be right in a theif's face. (like, steal me!) Chris Maness KQ6UP >> Anyone have any opinions on the Cobra 18 WX ST II Mobile CB? > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >role bars, but I'm woried that it's going to be right in a theif's >face. (like, steal me!) If it's right in their faces, possibly, but CB's haven't been high-theft items in years. If a drugie can't get at least 50 bucks for something, he doesn't usually bother with it, and you haven't been able to fence a CB for near that in close to 20 years. Dan >Chris Maness >KQ6UP > Anyone have any opinions on the Cobra 18 WX ST II Mobile CB? Cobra products are the pitts; they've gone downhill in a big way in the last decade; none of the truckers I know even own one anymore. Anyone who is serious about communication on the road runs Uniden, Galaxy or Ranger. (Galaxy uses Ranger mainboards and are of extremely good quality on a budget.) Every Cobra I've ever bought in the last 10 years died within 6 months. I won't waste my money on one anymore. > > Anyone have any opinions on the Cobra 18 WX ST II Mobile CB? > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Every Cobra I've ever bought in the last 10 years died within 6 months. > I won't waste my money on one anymore. Really, I hear the 29's are good. I guess not. > > Anyone have any opinions on the Cobra 18 WX ST II Mobile CB? > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Every Cobra I've ever bought in the last 10 years died within 6 months. > I won't waste my money on one anymore. What do you guys think of this radio: http://www.galaxyradios.com/cb/959.html Looks complicated. >> > Anyone have any opinions on the Cobra 18 WX ST II Mobile CB? >> [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > http://www.galaxyradios.com/cb/959.html > http://www.galaxyradios.com/cb/959.html It looks like it has all the bells & whistles you could ask for. Enough to easily communicate on the trail and more if you so desire. Nice meter. Not too large, either. Will it fit in your console? > http://www.galaxyradios.com/cb/959.html Overpriced with a useless freq. counter and SSB you'll never use. Good internals made by Ranger. Outstanding S-meter that is durable, although the lamp behind it will burn out every 5-6 years. Very stable transmitter, excellent modulation and power swing right out of the box. Very good radio for what it does. If all you're after is a decent, durable AM CB radio, consider the Galaxy 949 instead. The one I own is about 11 years old and is bulletproof. It's identical to the 959, but without the SSB and freq. counter, neither of which are of any use to most CB'ers. If you're after full 10-12 meter coverage, Galaxy's V-series radios are a bargain. All can be easily unlocked to include 11-meter (CB) coverage, and have clarifiers that will slide up/down by 5 khz. and a 10-k switch. Copper.com carries an excellent unit (55V) that I like to recommend for $159; very durable, extremely good noise filtering, FM mode, and a decent freq. counter that works well. For the ham operator that needs CB now and then, this is a must-have. This isn't on par with a President, but it's cheap and will easily take a beating in a Jeep without complaining, and the black face hides well underneath the dash. > > http://www.galaxyradios.com/cb/959.html > [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > a President, but it's cheap and will easily take a beating in a Jeep > without complaining, and the black face hides well underneath the dash. Thanks for the recomendation. > Anyone who is serious about communication on the road runs Uniden Excellent units; in fact their whole line of products is high quality and seriously underpriced, at least up here in the GWN. FWIW...... > > Anyone who is serious about communication on the road runs Uniden > > Excellent units; in fact their whole line of products is high quality and > seriously underpriced, at least up here in the GWN. > > FWIW...... I hear on the CB NG that these things are no good on SSB because of drift, and the Uniden has superior recieve. >> > Anyone who is serious about communication on the road runs Uniden >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > I hear on the CB NG that these things are no good on SSB because of > drift, and the Uniden has superior recieve. Well, we have a lot of people who work/drive in and to the /very/ far north, and that's the name I hear most often. Anyone from Oz in this group? They have a very similar geographical situation, just much better weather <G!>; their opinions and recommendations could be of value.....or perhaps -- dare I say it? -- a google search at the corner of Australia and long-range communication. Bonne chance! Worth a try......: http://www.desertaccess.com.au/communications.html > I hear on the CB NG that these things are no good on SSB because of > drift, and the Uniden has superior recieve. Good luck finding any AM CB that won't drift on SSB. I don't use SSB, AM or FM so it's a moot point for me. If we need more breathing room out where it counts on the road, we kick on the linear and move to the high 12-meter band where Smokey can't listen in. >> Anyone have any opinions on the Cobra 18 WX ST II Mobile CB? > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >Galaxy or Ranger. (Galaxy uses Ranger mainboards and are of extremely >good quality on a budget.) I've been using my Uniden PC-122 on a hump mount in my Jeep for some 16 years, with an Antenna Specialists 108" stainless steel whip antenna (that was also on my '65 Scout). I had it "peaked" and the squelch "tightened", but it has never missed a lick. I used to belong to a local SSB club. In town, I keep the antenna pulled forward in a "gutter clip" that Radio Shack quit carrying about 4 years ago. Even pulled down like that, it still far outperforms any shorter antenna I've ever used (center loaded, and even top loaded) regardless of where they were mounted on the vehicle (including the middle of the roof on the Scout). By that, I mean not only better range both ways, but also dramatically less noise. Dan >Every Cobra I've ever bought in the last 10 years died within 6 months. > I won't waste my money on one anymore. > I've been using my Uniden PC-122 on a hump mount in my Jeep for some > 16 years, with an Antenna Specialists 108" stainless steel whip [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > roof on the Scout). By that, I mean not only better range both ways, > but also dramatically less noise. Wow, that brings back memories. 108'ers were pretty popular in the 70's; I'm surprised they still sell them. Even with the gutter clip bend, the full-wave stainless whip kicks a.s. I knew a guy who wired one of these up to his AM/FM stereo. He couldn't believe the reception; claims he got stations from all across the USA, even in the daytime. Unidens are great, durable radios. I ran a 68XL with the red LED display for years. My tractor was stolen from the yard one weekend, and when the stripped carcass was found 5 mi. N of Mexicali a few days later, I was disappointed to find they had also stolen the friggin' CB. Bleh...all thieves must hang. >> I've been using my Uniden PC-122 on a hump mount in my Jeep for some >> 16 years, with an Antenna Specialists 108" stainless steel whip [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >70's; I'm surprised they still sell them. Even with the gutter clip >bend, the full-wave stainless whip kicks a.s. Actually, that's (9 feet) a 1/4-wave whip. A full-wave CB antenna would be 36 feet long. Telephone pole, anybody? >I knew a guy who wired one of these up to his AM/FM stereo. He couldn't >believe the reception; claims he got stations from all across the USA, [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >later, I was disappointed to find they had also stolen the friggin' CB. > Bleh...all thieves must hang. The Oceanside clubs run channel 5, too. God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ > So far I have found the old plain 23 channel units 'appear' to be the > best. [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590 > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) My CJ5 had a SSB radio when I bought it. I don't remember what I did to it, but it has been replaced. My limited experience is that the SSB worked better -- transmit further and receive weak signals better -- that any of the units I have bought subsequently. Nobody else had a SSB radio, so I could not use that particular feature, but I found that in full wave mode, the SSB radio was far superior in performance than the replacement radios. I think that it would be wise to have both a CB and a HAM in a Jeep. > Do jeepers use SSB on their CB radio? I'm shopping for CB's for my > jeep. I'm not into CB as I am a ham, so I'm just wondering what > features should I be looking out for. > > Chris Maness > KQ6UP > Do jeepers use SSB on their CB radio? I'm shopping for CB's for my > jeep. I'm not into CB as I am a ham, so I'm just wondering what > features should I be looking out for. > > Chris Maness > KQ6UP SSB is really used for DXing, so I'm not sure it would fit too well into the Jeeping world where you're only trying to contact closer trail mates and trail guides. Besides, you will be hard pressed to find another Jeeper using one. As I've said before, I use the Cobra WX75ST unit that is a completely removeable "Mr. Potatohead" type of radio. You can easily transport it to another vehicle if need be. That, an FRS and a Yaesu FT1500M for 2 meter. tw Signature_____________________________________________________________________ 2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco "There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'." Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940 Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase') A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II. _____________________________________________________________________ > > Do jeepers use SSB on their CB radio? I'm shopping for CB's for my > > jeep. I'm not into CB as I am a ham, so I'm just wondering what [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II. > _____________________________________________________________________ I like those radios for the small space. Is the recieve any good? I hear the audio is a little weak, and an external seaker is prefered. >> > Do jeepers use SSB on their CB radio? I'm shopping for CB's for my >> > jeep. I'm not into CB as I am a ham, so I'm just wondering what [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > I like those radios for the small space. Is the recieve any good? I > hear the audio is a little weak, and an external seaker is prefered. The speaker is good if you have your top on and windows closed or are traveling at low speed. I turned the volume way up on mine with the top off at highway speed. The speaker blew within 10 minutes. I've since wired the CB to the Jeep's stereo speaker through the CB's ext. speaker jack. I oringinally had a Cobra 4' whip. It broke and I replaced it with a Firestik 3'. The reception is much better with the Firestik. I couldn't say how it compares to other radios. I bought it for close proximity conversation (i.e. trail chatter). -- >>>Do jeepers use SSB on their CB radio? I'm shopping for CB's for my >>>jeep. I'm not into CB as I am a ham, so I'm just wondering what [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] >>tw >>-- > I like those radios for the small space. Is the recieve any good? I > hear the audio is a little weak, and an external seaker is prefered. I haven't had a problem hearing it, but I can see how an external speaker would help on the hwy. I might wire one up just as a test to see the difference. I prefer to use the FRS or 2M on the road anyway and I only use the CB during a trail ride. tw Signature_____________________________________________________________________ 2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco "There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'." Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940 Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase') A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II. _____________________________________________________________________ >>>> Do jeepers use SSB on their CB radio? I'm shopping for CB's for my >>>> jeep. I'm not into CB as I am a ham, so I'm just wondering what [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > tw BTW, I use these for FRS: <http://www.popularwireless.com/gmrsradioshack211850.html> tw Signature_____________________________________________________________________ 2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco "There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'." Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940 Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase') A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II. _____________________________________________________________________ |
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