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Car Forum / Jeep / February 2007

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Thoth1126@gmail.com - 13 Feb 2007 01:51 GMT
http://www.a1.nl/phomepag/markerink/coasting.htm
jbjeep - 13 Feb 2007 03:23 GMT
I dont get it...why would you want to coast downhill (accellerate) for any distance
with the clutch pushed in??
-jenn

>>http://www.a1.nl/phomepag/markerink/coasting.htm
Carl S - 13 Feb 2007 03:43 GMT
Me either. If I was going that far or over around 10mph, I would shift back
into 4hi and keep 'er in 2nd or 3rd.

Carl

>I dont get it...why would you want to coast downhill (accellerate) for any
>distance
> with the clutch pushed in??
> -jenn
>
>>>http://www.a1.nl/phomepag/markerink/coasting.htm
Thoth1126@gmail.com - 13 Feb 2007 13:15 GMT
When i coast I slap her in Neutral and let the clutch out.
Mike Romain - 13 Feb 2007 15:05 GMT
> When i coast I slap her in Neutral and let the clutch out.

How to die in one easy lesson....

Seriously....

There 'are' reasons it is illegal to coast downhill in neutral and they
go triple for a short wheelbased Jeep.

When you coast in neutral, it unloads the suspension making everything
just flop around loose.  This can translate to marginal wear that you
wouldn't normally notice in say shackles, springs, bushings, tie rod
ends, etc all adding up to give a serious loss of control.

When you are in gear, all these parts get under a torque load that keeps
things at one side of their wear pattern which keeps it stable.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
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Carl S - 13 Feb 2007 20:19 GMT
Also, when you keep the clutch engaged the RPM of the clutch will not exceed
the RPM of the engine. If you simply must coast with the engine disengaged,
take it out of gear and leave the clutch in. It's still a bad idea, though.

You can bet that if that guy had engaged the clutch before it blew while at
speed he would have been buying a new motor, too.

Carl

>> When i coast I slap her in Neutral and let the clutch out.
>
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> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
Carl S - 13 Feb 2007 20:56 GMT
Correction, I meant engaged, not in.

Carl

> Also, when you keep the clutch engaged the RPM of the clutch will not
> exceed the RPM of the engine. If you simply must coast with the engine
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>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590
>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
Dave Milne - 13 Feb 2007 23:11 GMT
While I totally agree its a stupid idea to coast in neutral, I don't buy
your argument - automatic transmissions effectively coast on the overrun.

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

> > When you coast in neutral, it unloads the suspension making everything
> > just flop around loose.  This can translate to marginal wear that you
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> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
Matt Macchiarolo - 13 Feb 2007 23:19 GMT
To me it's a safety issue...coasting with clutch disengaged or in neutral
means you aren't in full control of the vehicle.

> While I totally agree its a stupid idea to coast in neutral, I don't buy
> your argument - automatic transmissions effectively coast on the overrun.
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>> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590
>> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
Mike Romain - 14 Feb 2007 14:59 GMT
When you are 'floating' along with no acceleration or deceleration it
doesn't matter if you have an auto or a standard, you are still just
floating along.

Not the use of the word 'floating'.

When you are under any deceleration, the torque load has to happen
because the driveshaft is turning the tranny which in turn is trying to
turn the engine.  It doesn't take much to push the wear spot against one
side of the part to tighten it up.

That is also one reason some folks like standards so much better than
automatics, for the better 'feel' you have when slowing down or using
the gears.

Mike

> While I totally agree its a stupid idea to coast in neutral, I don't buy
> your argument - automatic transmissions effectively coast on the overrun.
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>>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590
>>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
Nomen Nescio - 14 Feb 2007 05:10 GMT
Silly claptrap
Mike Romain - 14 Feb 2007 15:05 GMT
> Silly claptrap

Rookie eh.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos:  Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
Lee Ayrton - 14 Feb 2007 15:24 GMT
>> Silly claptrap
>
> Rookie eh.

Probably not or, at least, not at what he's doing.  "Nomen Nescio" is a
pseudonym frequently used by those whose hobby is trolling Usenet.  The
words themselves are Latin and mean "I do not know the name".

--
"We began to realize, as we plowed on with the destruction of New Jersey,
that the extent of our American lunatic fringe had been underestimated."
Orson Wells on the reaction to the _War Of The Worlds_ broadcast.
L.W. (Bill) Hughes III - 14 Feb 2007 00:29 GMT
That's called Mexican overdrive out here, and as illegal as most of  Los
Angeles: http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/vctop/d11/vc21710.htm
       God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/

> When i coast I slap her in Neutral and let the clutch out.

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Thoth1126@gmail.com - 14 Feb 2007 03:24 GMT
WOW I had no idea. I don't do it for long stretches - If I'm going
down a driveway or parking lot I tend to put it in neutral, push the
clutch in, and wait till I know what gear I'll need. If there are no
cars at the bottom of the small incline - 2nd, and if a car
approaches, 1st. I'm always in 5th on the highway even down steep
hills. Thanks for the xtra info. Sorry for making you think I ride
around in neutral!
Carl S - 14 Feb 2007 04:46 GMT
Its not a big deal to do it at slow speeds in 2hi on the street or for short
stretches. Definately a bad idea in 4LO or on the highway.

Carl

> WOW I had no idea. I don't do it for long stretches - If I'm going
> down a driveway or parking lot I tend to put it in neutral, push the
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> hills. Thanks for the xtra info. Sorry for making you think I ride
> around in neutral!
 
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