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Car Forum / Jeep / February 2007

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sickrick - 23 Feb 2007 21:33 GMT
The front u joints are squeaking on my 95 Grand Cherokee. Can't get
them replaced until this weekend. Can I remove the driveshaft and
drive it with just the rear? Also, instead of leaving the front spline
in the front hanging out can i remove it without leaking the
differential fluid? Can I seal it up with a cover and a lg hose clamp
if it does leak and drive it for a week?
Matt Macchiarolo - 23 Feb 2007 23:40 GMT
I assume it's the driveshaft joints, not the axle U-joints.

The front output shaft of the T-case is a fixed-yoke so you won't be leaving
any splined shafts hanging out like you would the rear output. . You just
need to unbolt the yoke straps on both ends of the driveshaft and remove the
shaft.

Get new straps when you go to replace the shaft.

> The front u joints are squeaking on my 95 Grand Cherokee. Can't get
> them replaced until this weekend. Can I remove the driveshaft and
> drive it with just the rear? Also, instead of leaving the front spline
> in the front hanging out can i remove it without leaking the
> differential fluid? Can I seal it up with a cover and a lg hose clamp
> if it does leak and drive it for a week?
paul - 23 Feb 2007 23:42 GMT
Rick,
Removing the drive shaft will not prevent the front wheels and u-joints from
turning.
If the front drive shaft is the suspect with the bad u-joints then you can
safely remove it from the vehicle and still get around. If you do remove it
you should then take it directly to your basement and swap out the u-joints.

On my wife's 95 XJ (regular Cherokee) the front drive shaft is removed from
the yokes and there is no exposed spline,,, I do not have any experience
with the Grand Cherokee.

- but someone else here should know for sure

good luck
paul

> The front u joints are squeaking on my 95 Grand Cherokee. Can't get
> them replaced until this weekend. Can I remove the driveshaft and
> drive it with just the rear? Also, instead of leaving the front spline
> in the front hanging out can i remove it without leaking the
> differential fluid? Can I seal it up with a cover and a lg hose clamp
> if it does leak and drive it for a week?
Jeff Strickland - 24 Feb 2007 00:02 GMT
I'm pretty sure that the front yoke is sealed. You can remove the front
drive shaft and leave the yoke in place.

> The front u joints are squeaking on my 95 Grand Cherokee. Can't get
> them replaced until this weekend. Can I remove the driveshaft and
> drive it with just the rear? Also, instead of leaving the front spline
> in the front hanging out can i remove it without leaking the
> differential fluid? Can I seal it up with a cover and a lg hose clamp
> if it does leak and drive it for a week?
Jeff Strickland - 24 Feb 2007 00:04 GMT
You should mark the yokes (both of them) and the driveshaft ends with a
white line so you can put the shaft back in the same way it came out.

> The front u joints are squeaking on my 95 Grand Cherokee. Can't get
> them replaced until this weekend. Can I remove the driveshaft and
> drive it with just the rear? Also, instead of leaving the front spline
> in the front hanging out can i remove it without leaking the
> differential fluid? Can I seal it up with a cover and a lg hose clamp
> if it does leak and drive it for a week?
SBlackfoot - 24 Feb 2007 16:10 GMT
> The front u joints are squeaking on my 95 Grand Cherokee. Can't get
> them replaced until this weekend. Can I remove the driveshaft and
> drive it with just the rear? Also, instead of leaving the front spline
> in the front hanging out can i remove it without leaking the
> differential fluid? Can I seal it up with a cover and a lg hose clamp
> if it does leak and drive it for a week?

Hang on, hang on... Which transfer case do you have? If you have an NP249
(AWD) your Jeep might want to roll on it's own without the front shaft when
the tranny is in park without the handbrake set. It pretty much behaves like
it has a stiff centre diff so it might slowly roll awar all by itself. I've
also read that driving an NP249 without the front shaft can/will damage the
viscous coupler.

Of course, if you have an NP242, NP231, or a 2wd Jeep please ignore the
above.  ;)

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SBlackfoot - 24 Feb 2007 16:29 GMT
> Of course, if you have an NP242, NP231, or a 2wd Jeep please ignore the
> above.  ;)

Of course, if it were 2wd you wouldn't be asking about a front driveshaft...
*slapping forehead* This is why I shouldn't post messages right after waking
up.  lol

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sickrick - 24 Feb 2007 19:10 GMT
On Feb 24, 10:29 am, "SBlackfoot" <trypti...@sympatico.obvious.ca>
wrote:
> > Of course, if you have an NP242, NP231, or a 2wd Jeep please ignore the
> > above.  ;)
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Your exactly right. Went to the post office and the thing rolled
backward in park.Only gonna drive it a couple of days .On my front
differential ther is a boot with a u joint in it and if i just take
the driveshaft off at the spline connector then the spline hangs
down.The reason I asked about removing the spline is when i did there
was a small amount of oil inside and i didn't know if that came from
the differential or if jeep put some kinda lube in the boot to keep
the boot innards lubed. I drove it hard and parked it on a big hill
but no oil seeped out of the differential.Can oil leak out? I don't
want to tear up the front diif. by leaking out  all the oil.And does
anyone know for sure whether it will tear up my transfer case. I'd
like to just leave it off as it seems to drive alot better w/ 2 wheel
drive.(doesn't have that resistance when i turn under throttle)
Matt Macchiarolo - 24 Feb 2007 21:54 GMT
Letting us know what kind of transfer case you have...how many positions and
their names? Sounds like you may have one with full-time 4wd, which is a
different animal than the part-time only.

> On Feb 24, 10:29 am, "SBlackfoot" <trypti...@sympatico.obvious.ca>
> wrote:
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> like to just leave it off as it seems to drive alot better w/ 2 wheel
> drive.(doesn't have that resistance when i turn under throttle)
SBlackfoot - 25 Feb 2007 02:08 GMT
> Your exactly right. Went to the post office and the thing rolled
> backward in park.Only gonna drive it a couple of days .

Does your parking brake work?  ;) Obviously you have an NP249 (or an NP242
and you left it in full time mode?)  If your VC is already toast then
leaving it as is for a while shouldn't hurt, as long as you use the
handbrake religiously.

> On my front
> differential ther is a boot with a u joint in it and if i just take
> the driveshaft off at the spline connector then the spline hangs
> down.

The driveshaft should unbolt from the diff just like it unbolted from the
transfer case, leaving the flange behind. Don't seperate the driveshaft in
the middle and leave half on the axle, as it is still being driven by the
wheels and would flop around all over the place and poke somebody's eye out.
The '95s had a typical U-joint on the diff end, not some fancy CV joint did
they? Any chance you could take a pic of what you've got there?

> The reason I asked about removing the spline is when i did there
> was a small amount of oil inside and i didn't know if that came from
> the differential or if jeep put some kinda lube in the boot to keep
> the boot innards lubed. I drove it hard and parked it on a big hill
> but no oil seeped out of the differential.Can oil leak out? I don't
> want to tear up the front diif. by leaking out  all the oil.

The diff pinion is sealed, nothing should leak out.

> And does
> anyone know for sure whether it will tear up my transfer case. I'd
> like to just leave it off as it seems to drive alot better w/ 2 wheel
> drive.(doesn't have that resistance when i turn under throttle)

You *might* damage the viscous coupler, it's debateable. Assuming an NP249,
which seems likely at this point.

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