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Car Forum / Jeep / March 2007

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nrs - 07 Mar 2007 16:30 GMT
My wiper fluid bottle leaks whenever it gets bumped.  If left alone it
does not leak.  Feeling around under the bottle, the hoses don't get
wet so I think it must be a very small crack highere up that could be
sealed easily.   Any recommendations on what to use to seal it?
Mike Romain - 07 Mar 2007 17:09 GMT
> My wiper fluid bottle leaks whenever it gets bumped.  If left alone it
> does not leak.  Feeling around under the bottle, the hoses don't get
> wet so I think it must be a very small crack highere up that could be
> sealed easily.   Any recommendations on what to use to seal it?

So leave it alone....
;-)

I know of no glues that will hold on that type of plastic.

That type of plastic, if cracked, will leak all the fluid out down to
the crack, bumps or no bumps which kinda implies something else is
causing the leak.

I would remove the bottle for a closer inspection.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
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nrs - 07 Mar 2007 17:32 GMT
> > My wiper fluid bottle leaks whenever it gets bumped.  If left alone it
> > does not leak.  Feeling around under the bottle, the hoses don't get
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Thanks Mike.  I thought about leaving it alone but it just bothers me
when something is not right.  I noticed the leaking while replacing
the steering shaft. I'll remove it and take a look.
billy ray - 07 Mar 2007 18:24 GMT
You may be able to use some kind of adhesive or sealant because that washer
tank is not under pressure like the overflow tank is.....

It might be worth a try before replacement.

Do we know what type of plastic it is?  Polyethylene perhaps?

>> > My wiper fluid bottle leaks whenever it gets bumped.  If left alone it
>> > does not leak.  Feeling around under the bottle, the hoses don't get
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> when something is not right.  I noticed the leaking while replacing
> the steering shaft. I'll remove it and take a look.
L.W. (Bill) Hughes III - 07 Mar 2007 23:05 GMT
Real Jeeps are designed for off road bumps, therefore: don't have no
stinkin' washers.
       God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/

> My wiper fluid bottle leaks whenever it gets bumped.  If left alone it
> does not leak.  Feeling around under the bottle, the hoses don't get
> wet so I think it must be a very small crack highere up that could be
> sealed easily.   Any recommendations on what to use to seal it?

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nrs - 08 Mar 2007 00:48 GMT
On Mar 7, 5:05 pm, "L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III" <billhug...@cox.net>
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>     Real Jeeps are designed for off road bumps, therefore: don't have no
> stinkin' washers.
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LOL! That's how it is on my '43 GPW. Also, no computers, no power
steering, no AC, no top, no heater, no power brakes, everything skid
plated, steel seats ...
merrill - 09 Mar 2007 02:04 GMT
As I see it, you have 3 options:

1. Replace the bottle

2. Replace the bottle with something that fits in that space like a
milk jug or WWAF jug.

3. Or you could remove the bottle, find the crack and repair it with
plastic epoxy. I did this on my leaky reservoir for the cooling
system. The local parts store didn't think they had anything that
would fix it. I picked up some plastic epoxy at CTC and followed the
instructions. It still doesn't leak a drop after 2 years. If you want
to give it a try, the product is made by Permatex and it is named
Permapoxy 5minute plastic weld. I don't want to get your hopes up. I
certainly won't guarantee the results, but if you want to gamble about
$7 it might be worth a try. If you decide to try it, let me know and I
will give you detailed instructions on how I used it to solve my
problem. I was truly amazed by the results!

Merrill

> My wiper fluid bottle leaks whenever it gets bumped.  If left alone it
> does not leak.  Feeling around under the bottle, the hoses don't get
> wet so I think it must be a very small crack highere up that could be
> sealed easily.   Any recommendations on what to use to seal it?
nrs - 09 Mar 2007 14:23 GMT
> As I see it, you have 3 options:
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The epoxy idea sounds good to me, got nothing to lose.  Please send me
the instructions.  Thanks.
Mike Romain - 09 Mar 2007 14:37 GMT
>> As I see it, you have 3 options:
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> The epoxy idea sounds good to me, got nothing to lose.  Please send me
> the instructions.  Thanks.

Please post them to the group, I am more than interested also.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos:  Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
billy ray - 09 Mar 2007 15:06 GMT
Most washer bottles are HDPE (high density polyethylene) and that type of
plastic is problematic to repair at home.

The best method would be with heat to fuse the crack but 99&44/100% of the
time that would result in spectacular failure when attempted at home.

A "sealer" might do better than an epoxy, as I am told, because many
adhesives don't stick very well to it.

You may want to practice on an old milk jug (if you are in the States.)

>>> As I see it, you have 3 options:
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DougW - 09 Mar 2007 22:24 GMT
> Most washer bottles are HDPE (high density polyethylene) and that
> type of plastic is problematic to repair at home.
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> You may want to practice on an old milk jug (if you are in the
> States.)

Rubber patch on the inside.  Same type that's used for blow-up rafts.
If it's a crack your toast.  There just isn't any good (at-home) repair
for HDPE.  I have used a bit of plastic jug and some silicone caulk
to make an inside repair.  One of my friends used some real sticky metal
sticker thingies used on engines. That glue stuck to anything.

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philthy - 10 Mar 2007 14:31 GMT
jb weld 4 minute formaula  works great on stuff like that

> Most washer bottles are HDPE (high density polyethylene) and that type of
> plastic is problematic to repair at home.
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merrill - 09 Mar 2007 23:19 GMT
Instructions for plastic bottle repair.

I don't guarantee this because I wasn't convinced it would work until
I tried it.

The product I used was named Permapoxy 5 min plastic weld. www.permatex.com
item# 84125

I used it to fix my overflow reservoir in 2005 and it hasn't leaked a
drop since. But your WWAF bottle may be a totally different plastic.

I removed the reservoir and rinsed it out. The crack was about 3
inches long and easy to find on the bottom flat surface. When it was
dry, I roughed up the area for about 3/4 inch (2cm) around the crack
with very coarse sandpaper, then finer sandpaper (60-120). I did not
drill at the ends of the crack to prevent it from spreading. I
squeezed out the 2 part epoxy onto waxy paper and mixed it thoroughly
with a wooden coffee stir stick. Then I slathered it over the crack as
thick as possible for about 1/2 inch on each side of the crack and
past the ends. I left it to dry as long as possible before
reinstalling it. I removed it about 7pm and reinstalled it about 6am
and drove to work. I topped it up there and it has been fine since.

I only bought one package and used about 3/4 of it for this fix.

If this doesn't work, I think I might have a good bottle on my 89 XJ
partsmobile I could send you if the postage is less than a new bottle.
I'll check in the morning.

Good luck! Let us know how it goes.

Merrill

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nrs - 12 Mar 2007 15:28 GMT
> Instructions for plastic bottle repair.
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Thanks a lot.  I'll try to find this product and give it a try.  It
may take me a while but I'll report the results once done.  Thanks to
everyone who replied.
 
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