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Cherokee seat removal help needed.

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Mike Romain - 07 Mar 2007 18:04 GMT
Well, the government jerks are insisting they are going to steal my 87
Cherokee because I haven't finished doing a needed engine swap to get it
on the road, so I am going to strip it.

It's a 4 door with working power windows if anyone in the Toronto Canada
area wants parts.  It has 4 of those 5 spoke Aluminum rims in decent
enough shape.

Got it boxed in real good right now...

Had to call the cops on the government goons on Monday because they
insisted they could go into my garage and steal 'all' it's contents like
my camping and fishing gear, tools, Jeep parts, etc., because the door
was broken open!  The cops put a stop to that long enough to get the
door half closed and chase the jerks off.

I asked the cops if it was illegal to paint the one fingered salute on
my garage door for the enjoyment of the new 32 story high rise that just
went in across the street and they said no, it's legal, go ahead.  :-)

So enough ranting, I want the nice bucket seats out of the Cherokee for
my CJ7.  These are the 87 version of the manual adjust wrap around
buckets and fit me nice.

I can't bend well to get in there and spot all the fasteners and was
hoping someone else knew if I could get the seat track off without
unbolting the whole works from the floor.  There are 'sort of' rusty nut
stubs left on the bolts that go into the floor, but it is 'very'
unlikely they will unbolt there.

Any ideas?

Thanks,

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
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Snow - 07 Mar 2007 18:23 GMT
Those four studs you see are probably the best and easiest way to
remove the seats.  If you have a Dermel tool you can get your son out
there to cut the studs off, then lift out the seats.  I'd stop by and
give you a hand but my ribs are a little cracked (snowboarding with
the kids).  If the dremel wont work then try a socket with big breaker
bar and try snapping the studs by over tightening the nuts.    Its too
bad i got rid of my XJ last summer, I could have taken parts from both
and made a decent shaped XJ.

Snow...

P.S.   I'm waiting to see the "flip'n the bird" painted garage door
too show up on City Pulse News :)
Mike Romain - 07 Mar 2007 19:15 GMT
> Those four studs you see are probably the best and easiest way to
> remove the seats.  If you have a Dermel tool you can get your son out
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> P.S.   I'm waiting to see the "flip'n the bird" painted garage door
> too show up on City Pulse News :)

Thanks, I am going to soak them in PB Blaster and see if my impact gun
can fit on them.

I was going to plate this one, but it needs an engine and complete
clutch system and our daily driver, the engine donor also needs a
complete clutch system.

We thought about it and figured it isn't worth putting $500.00 into
either of these Jeeps for parts right now.

We want to take that and buy one 'with' a working clutch and preferably
intact rockers.  Floors I can deal with...

So I will be stripping a second one soon likely too....

Know anyone selling a Jeep?

Mike
abomb69 - 07 Mar 2007 19:41 GMT
I'd get me a shotgun with some double 00 buck shots and take care of them
government pricks when they break into the garage.  Put no trespassing signs
up.

>> Those four studs you see are probably the best and easiest way to
>> remove the seats.  If you have a Dermel tool you can get your son out
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>
> Mike
Mike chambers - 07 Mar 2007 20:41 GMT
Hay there Mike.
 I just picked up a set of Cherokee seats for my YJ. I just went to the
garage and looked at them. The best way is to unbolt them from the
floor. I got mine still bolted to the frames. And as i see it you have
to go up and under to get them off the track.
 The guy i got my seats fro gave me ever thing even the back seat. I
plain on selling ever thing but the front seats on e-bay.
  87 YJ 33" 2.5
  47 Willy's stock
  50 Willy's pickup stock

Later Mike
Mike Romain - 07 Mar 2007 22:52 GMT
Thanks, got the nuts and bolts soaking in PB Blaster for the day before
I even think about attempting them.

Mike

> Hay there Mike.
>   I just picked up a set of Cherokee seats for my YJ. I just went to the
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>
> Later Mike
billy ray - 07 Mar 2007 23:59 GMT
Is Steve near enough by?

> Thanks, got the nuts and bolts soaking in PB Blaster for the day before I
> even think about attempting them.
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>>
>> Later Mike
L.W. (Bill) Hughes III - 07 Mar 2007 22:46 GMT
Bummer! I feel for you.
       God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
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> Well, the government jerks are insisting they are going to steal my 87
> Cherokee because I haven't finished doing a needed engine swap to get it
[quoted text clipped - 36 lines]
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

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DougW - 08 Mar 2007 00:13 GMT
> Well, the government jerks are insisting they are going to steal my 87
> Cherokee because I haven't finished doing a needed engine swap to get
> it on the road, so I am going to strip it.

That's a new one to me.  Isn't there a way to tag the vehicle as
being not-drivable or under-repair?  I can see going after the tag
for lack of insurance, but never heard of the goonsquad going after
a vehicle being repaired.  Sure they were legit and not fakes?

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Mike Romain - 08 Mar 2007 01:01 GMT
>> Well, the government jerks are insisting they are going to steal my 87
>> Cherokee because I haven't finished doing a needed engine swap to get
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> for lack of insurance, but never heard of the goonsquad going after
> a vehicle being repaired.  Sure they were legit and not fakes?

I could only tag (plate) it with 'parking' insurance if I already owned
it and it was already plated in my name.  Unfortunately that means
emissions and safety first so it has to be a runner.

I am getting my 'money's worth' of parts from it at least.

And ya, they were legit, we live in a 'Very' Snooty city, Toronto
Canada, very British roots.  We didn't toss the tea unfortunately...
You must have a 'pretty' house too.  The j.rkoff even wrote up reports
on some rust on the front step railings and a kid's tree house that has
been there since 92 for being 'too tall'.  And he wrote 'us' up for the
neighbor's crooked fence too.  I told him to screw off on that one also.

Mike
Jon - 08 Mar 2007 02:02 GMT
> >> Well, the government jerks are insisting they are going to steal my 87
> >> Cherokee because I haven't finished doing a needed engine swap to get
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
>
> Mike

Grrr....I know this has nothing to do with the parting out of the
vehicle, but, in Southern California, I work in an area of
construction where I constantly have to run up against Homeowner's
Associations rules, Neighborhood Covenants, and pretentious city codes
-- and frankly that sh.t makes my Yankee blood boil.  Hell, my
neighbors here think they own the street.

Can you "register" it as an off-road vehicle?  I'm assuming you are
parking off-street.

I'll send a handsome Int'l money order for a nice glossy of your
garage-door-opinion...
Dave Milne - 10 Mar 2007 11:26 GMT
Fortunately we don't get either residents associations or the government
stealing our cars. You can have as much rust on your railingas as you like.
As for a fence, it can be completely blown down.

This brand of Naziism you imported from your US cousins - don't blame us for
that !

Dave Milne, Scotland

> And ya, they were legit, we live in a 'Very' Snooty city, Toronto
> Canada, very British roots.  We didn't toss the tea unfortunately...
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>
> Mike
merrill - 09 Mar 2007 02:52 GMT
Hey Doug

Mike is not jokeing

Things are tough in Toronto, but much worse in rural Ontario where I
live. The government is sending out the black vans (full of guys with
spacesuits) to shut down rural sawmills because they are creating
TOXIC sawdust.

They want Ma and Pa bakeries to submit their recipes with a checque
for about $2000 per recipe for government approval.

Do you want another 100 examples of government run amok? I'll send you
the info.

Merrill

> > Well, the government jerks are insisting they are going to steal my 87
> > Cherokee because I haven't finished doing a needed engine swap to get
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> --
> DougW
billy ray - 09 Mar 2007 09:09 GMT
Sounds like you guys need to succeed from a government under the control of
an unstable socialist foreign power.  Consider going toward the light.....

The US can offer substantial tracts of land in exchange for the untainted
portions of Jeepable Canada.

Consider it....

> Hey Doug
>
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>> --
>> DougW
Lon - 09 Mar 2007 11:55 GMT
Y'all haven't really gone over the edge until they dig up all the garlic
and ban all burritos.

merrill proclaimed:

> Hey Doug
>
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>>--
>>DougW
Herb Leong - 09 Mar 2007 18:53 GMT
#Well, the government jerks are insisting they are going to steal my 87
#Cherokee because I haven't finished doing a needed engine swap to get it

Time for the Toronto Song!
by Three Dead Trolls in a Baggie

I hate the SkyDome and the CN Tower too;
I hate Nathan Philips Square and the Ontario Zoo!
The rent's too high,
The air's unclean,
The beaches are dirty,
And the people are mean!
And the women are big and the men are dumb
And the children are loopy 'cause they live in a slum!
The water is polluted and the mayor's a dork!
They dress real bad and they think they're New York.
In Toronto,
Ontario, oh-oh!
<snip>
merrill - 09 Mar 2007 23:51 GMT
> In article <45eefed0$0$3979$9a6e1...@unlimited.newshosting.com>,
> #Well, the government jerks are insisting they are going to steal my 87
> #Cherokee because I haven't finished doing a needed engine swap to get it
>
> Time for the Toronto Song!
> by Three Dead Trolls in a Baggie

Hey Herb

I love the lyrics, I gotta hear the song.

I remember when the Mayor and council voted to ban the Barenaked
Ladies from performing at Nathan Philips Square.

The Barenaked Ladies became a huge success in Canada, but does anyone
outside of Toronto remember the name of the mayor or any of the
councillors? What a bunch of self serving and out of touch dorques!

Merrill

> I hate the SkyDome and the CN Tower too;
> I hate Nathan Philips Square and the Ontario Zoo!
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> Ontario, oh-oh!
> <snip>
Matt Macchiarolo - 10 Mar 2007 23:51 GMT
"dorques!"

LOL!!
Frank_v7.0 - 10 Mar 2007 23:53 GMT
I think thats French for Dorks. :-)

> "dorques!"
>
> LOL!!

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Brian - 10 Mar 2007 01:57 GMT
I don't get it - by what authority can the government confiscate your
personal property? Is that Canada, or the People's Republic of China
(which just now recognized a limited right to private property)?

B

> Well, the government jerks are insisting they are going to steal my 87
> Cherokee because I haven't finished doing a needed engine swap to get it
> on the road, so I am going to strip it.
L.W. (Bill) Hughes III - 10 Mar 2007 06:51 GMT
Study "eminent domain", it's gotten worst than when they gave my parents
fifty bucks for five acres to build a freeway across it in '64. Luckily they
had sold a lot of it for five thousand, which equaled what they had paid for
it twenty five years before.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&q=emine
nt+domain

       God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/

> I don't get it - by what authority can the government confiscate your
> personal property? Is that Canada, or the People's Republic of China
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> > Cherokee because I haven't finished doing a needed engine swap to get it
> > on the road, so I am going to strip it.

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Mike Romain - 10 Mar 2007 15:22 GMT
Having an unplated vehicle is one thing, but the Jerks are also saying
that a private garage is also 'public domain' if the door is open so
they can just walk in and steal it's contents apparently.

It is kinds funny how fast the crew ran away only leaving the boss when
I called the cops though.

Now the j.rk off boss wants to charge us the crew's 'waiting' time until
the cops showed.  The crew wasn't even here and I have the cops as
witness.  :-)

I can't get out of this a.shole city fast enough I'll tell you.  We were
ready to go 3 years ago when I got smucked up as a passenger in a car
accident.  When that gets settled, we are soo gone....

Mike

> I don't get it - by what authority can the government confiscate your
> personal property? Is that Canada, or the People's Republic of China
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>> Cherokee because I haven't finished doing a needed engine swap to get it
>> on the road, so I am going to strip it.
DougW - 10 Mar 2007 15:46 GMT
> It is kinds funny how fast the crew ran away only leaving the boss
> when I called the cops though.

Makes you wonder if any of them had outstanding arrest warrants. :)
Did they run a check on the boss?

> Now the j.rk off boss wants to charge us the crew's 'waiting' time
> until the cops showed.  The crew wasn't even here and I have the cops
> as witness.  :-)

Did you get his contact information so you can discuss with his
supervisor what trespassing is, and what damage they did to your
garage?  Emotional stress, pain and suffering, all those words that
cause lawyers to drool.

Don't forget the local paper and news.  Lots of times there are
reporters looking for a good public-interest story.  ;)

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philthy - 10 Mar 2007 14:24 GMT
thats why they will be taking my guns from my cold dead fingers glad to be a
american      oh  didn't u follks up there give up your guns??

> Well, the government jerks are insisting they are going to steal my 87
> Cherokee because I haven't finished doing a needed engine swap to get it
[quoted text clipped - 36 lines]
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
billy ray - 10 Mar 2007 15:04 GMT
No, they just have to get permission beforehand.  They need to know who
might be able to oppose their jack booted thugs.

> thats why they will be taking my guns from my cold dead fingers glad to be
> a
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>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590
>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
Mike Romain - 10 Mar 2007 15:15 GMT
We still own guns, we just don't carry hand guns around without a
serious and theoretically hard to get permit.  Our long guns are still
supposed to be registered though.

Mike

> thats why they will be taking my guns from my cold dead fingers glad to be a
> american      oh  didn't u follks up there give up your guns??
[quoted text clipped - 39 lines]
>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590
>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
Frank_v7.0 - 10 Mar 2007 16:41 GMT
Move to Arizona or Vermont. :-) Arizona is an "open carry" state. You
can carry unconcealed and holstered. If you draw and use it be prepared
to justify your actions. Vermont allows concealed carry with no permit.
The concealed carry permit for Arizona is easy to get if you're not a
convicted felon, mentally "challenged" or here illegally. They give a
two day course at the local J.C. Permit good for at least two years
maybe four. No requirement to register a weapon in either state. And say
what you will about G.W. but he signed the bill that allows me to carry
as a retired L.E.O. with no restriction by any state or local government
as long as I qualify once a year.
> We still own guns, we just don't carry hand guns around without a
> serious and theoretically hard to get permit.  Our long guns are still
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>>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590
>>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

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L.W. (Bill) Hughes III - 10 Mar 2007 21:04 GMT
And they just made it illegal to buy ammunition in San Francisco. I
think I go buy another thousand rounds.
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> Move to Arizona or Vermont. :-) Arizona is an "open carry" state. You
> can carry unconcealed and holstered. If you draw and use it be prepared
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> as a retired L.E.O. with no restriction by any state or local government
> as long as I qualify once a year.

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philthy - 11 Mar 2007 14:35 GMT
so is most of the U.S  a open carry state, right to bear arms
michigan has a 5 yr pistol license i let mine lapse  but will be going thru the
hoops soon again

> Move to Arizona or Vermont. :-) Arizona is an "open carry" state. You
> can carry unconcealed and holstered. If you draw and use it be prepared
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> FRH
merrill - 12 Mar 2007 00:56 GMT
The right to arm bears?

We have that in Ontario.

> so is most of the U.S  a open carry state, right to bear arms
> michigan has a 5 yr pistol license i let mine lapse  but will be going thru the
> hoops soon again
billy ray - 12 Mar 2007 14:33 GMT
If Hilary gets her way the only right to bear arms will change to the right
to bare arms.

But since exposure to sunlight causes cancer they will want to outlaw that
also.

> The right to arm bears?
>
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>> thru the
>> hoops soon again
Matt Macchiarolo - 12 Mar 2007 17:11 GMT
<yawn>

> If Hilary gets her way the only right to bear arms will change to the
> right to bare arms.
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>>> thru the
>>> hoops soon again
philthy - 11 Mar 2007 14:31 GMT
glad to hear that

> We still own guns, we just don't carry hand guns around without a
> serious and theoretically hard to get permit.  Our long guns are still
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> >> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590
> >> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
L.W. (Bill) Hughes III - 10 Mar 2007 20:59 GMT
Washington DC, with the highest murder rate, has just overturned their
30 year anti gun law as unconstitutional. :-)
       God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/

> thats why they will be taking my guns from my cold dead fingers glad to be a
> american      oh  didn't u follks up there give up your guns??

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