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Car Forum / Jeep / March 2007

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05 Rubicon diff Oil

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ULB - 08 Mar 2007 02:09 GMT
I want to change the diff oil in my 05 rubicon.  Apparently it needs
to be changed every 12k miles.  Sounds pretty lame to me but
whatever.  Anyway was thinking of putting in 75w140 synthetic.  I
assume this guy doesn't need any friction modifier?  Should I consider
just using the 80w90?  This jeep is only used on pavement to get to
the trail.  It is not a daily driver at all.

Suggestions?  thanks all!
Earle Horton - 08 Mar 2007 02:31 GMT
I don't know anything about the Rubicon, except that a bunch of old
retired-looking coots shows up every summer in Silverton with them now, but
needing to change diff fluid every 12k miles sounds like it has limited slip
clutches in it.  I would be very surprised in that case if it didn't need
friction modifier.  Do you know what kind of mechanicals it has in it?  When
all else fails consult the Owner's Manual, and make sure you have the
section for the identical equipment that you have.

Earle

> I want to change the diff oil in my 05 rubicon.  Apparently it needs
> to be changed every 12k miles.  Sounds pretty lame to me but
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> Suggestions?  thanks all!
The Merg - 08 Mar 2007 02:36 GMT
Rubis have lockers, but I don't know what kind.  It will probably need
some sort of additive.
Just a guess, though.

> I don't know anything about the Rubicon, except that a bunch of old
> retired-looking coots shows up every summer in Silverton with them now, but
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>> Suggestions?  thanks all!
twaldron - 08 Mar 2007 04:23 GMT
> I want to change the diff oil in my 05 rubicon.  Apparently it needs
> to be changed every 12k miles.  Sounds pretty lame to me but
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>
> Suggestions?  thanks all!

You are fine with what you want to put in it, 75w140 SYN. Friction
modifiers are for clutch based ltd. slip. You have a helical gear based
unit.

tw

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Pronunciation: 'jEp      Function: noun      Date: 1940

Etymology:  from g. p. (G= 'Government'  P= '80 inch wheelbase')
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Earle Horton - 08 Mar 2007 05:00 GMT
> > I want to change the diff oil in my 05 rubicon.  Apparently it needs
> > to be changed every 12k miles.  Sounds pretty lame to me but
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> modifiers are for clutch based ltd. slip. You have a helical gear based
> unit.

In that case why change the fluid every 12k miles?  That's a waste of
petroleum.

Earle
twaldron - 08 Mar 2007 14:39 GMT
>>>I want to change the diff oil in my 05 rubicon.  Apparently it needs
>>>to be changed every 12k miles.  Sounds pretty lame to me but
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>
> Earle

That is a 'schedule B' thing for extreme use. Not necessary for the
average owner.

tw

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2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco

"There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."

Pronunciation: 'jEp      Function: noun      Date: 1940

Etymology:  from g. p. (G= 'Government'  P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
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FrankW - 08 Mar 2007 14:51 GMT
LOL! Just living here in Canada
is extreme use, according to the FSM

Anyways, go for the 75W140 Synthetic
4.0 pints for each diff
25 Ft/Lbs torque for the drain/fill plugs
Does not require friction modifier.
Cheers
Frank

>>>> I want to change the diff oil in my 05 rubicon.  Apparently it needs
>>>> to be changed every 12k miles.  Sounds pretty lame to me but
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>
> tw
twaldron - 08 Mar 2007 23:38 GMT
Yep, pretty 'all-inclusive', isn't it?  Otherwise known as 'CYA'.

> LOL! Just living here in Canada
> is extreme use, according to the FSM
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> Cheers
> Frank

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2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco

"There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."

Pronunciation: 'jEp      Function: noun      Date: 1940

Etymology:  from g. p. (G= 'Government'  P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
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Highcountry - 10 Mar 2007 14:23 GMT
If it were me, I would split the difference on the mileage schedules.
Halfway between severe and normal should be often enough. On my
personal vehicles, and I have 4 that are 4x4 I look at the condition
of the lube and change it when I notice a discoloration.

As for lube, I have been using 85-140 synthetic for 15 years. My
Cherokee has 240,000 miles and the Differentials are still going fine,
not even so much as a pinion or axle seal problem. It is difficult to
argue with that record...

Good Luck, Bruce
 
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