It is getting NASCAR season here in Ft Worth....with the TMS here, they
throw the cars everywhere to promote the race....Lowes, Home Depot, Chevy,
Ford what have you....one thing I noticed was how slick the cars were when I
touched the body.....a fly couldn't stay on the hood in this Texas wind on
the hood.....I have waxed my Cherokee and Grand but never do I get that kind
of slickness.....just wondering if there is some secret wax the cars use and
if any one knows what it is.....sure would help on all the boxy Jeeps trying
to get a little aerodynamics
DougW - 11 Mar 2007 00:13 GMT
> It is getting NASCAR season here in Ft Worth....with the TMS here,
> they throw the cars everywhere to promote the race....Lowes, Home
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> is.....sure would help on all the boxy Jeeps trying to get a little
> aerodynamics
polymer waxes
McGuire's NXT is quite slick. Every time I wax the hood
of my ZJ the cat finds somewhere else to sleep since
she slides off.

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Jeff Strickland - 11 Mar 2007 02:25 GMT
>> It is getting NASCAR season here in Ft Worth....with the TMS here,
>> they throw the cars everywhere to promote the race....Lowes, Home
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> of my ZJ the cat finds somewhere else to sleep since
> she slides off.
I hope you keep her toenails trimmed ...
Jeff Strickland - 11 Mar 2007 02:24 GMT
> It is getting NASCAR season here in Ft Worth....with the TMS here, they
> throw the cars everywhere to promote the race....Lowes, Home Depot, Chevy,
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> use and if any one knows what it is.....sure would help on all the boxy
> Jeeps trying to get a little aerodynamics
You want to improve the aerodynamics of a brick by polishing it? Good luck
with that. You will never go fast enough for a good coat of wax to help.
Lon - 12 Mar 2007 01:50 GMT
Jeff Strickland proclaimed:
>> It is getting NASCAR season here in Ft Worth....with the TMS here,
>> they throw the cars everywhere to promote the race....Lowes, Home
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> luck with that. You will never go fast enough for a good coat of wax to
> help.
Maybe they have an SRT-8? Porsche got ticked off enough to do a new
engine due to being waxed regularly.
billy ray - 11 Mar 2007 08:01 GMT
Run a clay bar across the paint before you bother waxing it. You will be
amazed.
Cay bars and clay bar kits are available at most auto parts stores.
> It is getting NASCAR season here in Ft Worth....with the TMS here, they
> throw the cars everywhere to promote the race....Lowes, Home Depot, Chevy,
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> use and if any one knows what it is.....sure would help on all the boxy
> Jeeps trying to get a little aerodynamics
Lon - 12 Mar 2007 01:52 GMT
Get a big bar and use detailing fluid or even window film soap for lube.
Get a couple bars, if you drop one, toss it a neighbor, don't reuse it.
Jewelers tin oxide also works, but boy is it messy and lots more work.
billy ray proclaimed:
> Run a clay bar across the paint before you bother waxing it. You will be
> amazed.
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>>use and if any one knows what it is.....sure would help on all the boxy
>>Jeeps trying to get a little aerodynamics
billy ray - 12 Mar 2007 14:36 GMT
I clayed the WJ last summer. The difference is amazing..... and the
procedure is not all that had...
> Get a big bar and use detailing fluid or even window film soap for lube.
> Get a couple bars, if you drop one, toss it a neighbor, don't reuse it.
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>>>secret wax the cars use and if any one knows what it is.....sure would
>>>help on all the boxy Jeeps trying to get a little aerodynamics
Scott in Baltimore - 13 Mar 2007 00:05 GMT
> I clayed the WJ last summer. The difference is amazing..... and the
> procedure is not all that had...
Do you have to use the spray that comes with the bar? Can you use something else?
billy ray - 13 Mar 2007 01:12 GMT
You use "detailing" spray to wet the surface. The stuff I used was
Maguire's but every car wax brand has their own version. They are pretty
much interchangeable and run about $5 per bottle.
Several companies make the clay bars themselves, mine is from Griots
Garage... Good thing I got it as a present, that place is kinda pricy.
The kit is often a better buy, they run 15-20 dollars depending on the
brand.
>> I clayed the WJ last summer. The difference is amazing..... and the
>> procedure is not all that had...
>
> Do you have to use the spray that comes with the bar? Can you use
> something else?
merrill - 13 Mar 2007 23:40 GMT
I always used heavy duty paste wax in the fall and buffed it lightly
on vehicles that were worth waxing.
What is the advantage of the clay bar? And what is the theory behind
using the clay bar?
Merrill
> You use "detailing" spray to wet the surface. The stuff I used was
> Maguire's but every car wax brand has their own version. They are pretty
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Scott in Baltimore - 15 Mar 2007 01:14 GMT
> I always used heavy duty paste wax in the fall and buffed it lightly
> on vehicles that were worth waxing.
>
> What is the advantage of the clay bar? And what is the theory behind
> using the clay bar?
The only thing I can figure, since I bought and tried one, is that it's
sticky and it removes all the stuff in/on the paint. I was surprised
what came off the paint. I was trying to remove scratches. It won't do
that but lots of other stuff came off the clear coat. Now I need to find
time to put a few coats of wax on it. Every time I do it, it's only good
for a few weeks. Right now there is no beading going on, just flat water
when it rains. What works GOOD? I want something that will let me hose
the mud off. I don't want to wax once a month. It's a Jeep, dammit! :)
Ivan Jager - 16 Mar 2007 21:03 GMT
>> I always used heavy duty paste wax in the fall and buffed it lightly
>> on vehicles that were worth waxing.
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> when it rains. What works GOOD? I want something that will let me hose
> the mud off. I don't want to wax once a month. It's a Jeep, dammit! :)
I've never heard of clay bars before this, but first hit on google says it
works as an abrasive. http://www.autopia-carcare.com/inf-clay.html
Basically you use some lubricant to protect the paint, and the abrasive
gets rid of anything that sticks out.
I don't bother with wax. The way I usually clean my car involves
vaporizing a large quantity of water, then condensing it (this gives me
poor man's distilled water). After that it is accelerated towards the
surface of my car. On impact it tends to break away most of the dirt and
carry it off. :)
Ivan
Lon - 15 Mar 2007 04:45 GMT
Scott in Baltimore proclaimed:
>> I clayed the WJ last summer. The difference is amazing..... and the
>> procedure is not all that had...
>
> Do you have to use the spray that comes with the bar? Can you use
> something else?
Get the biggest bar you can find, and then buy a spray bottle of lube.
The combo packages tend to have either really small bars which are hard
to use or really small bottles of lube. The soap used for window film
also works. Detailing spray also works.
Snow - 11 Mar 2007 15:50 GMT
I foyu really want a slick shine then you need to follow the steps of
the classic car folks. My dad spends the better part of a day waxing,
polishing, buffing his old car just to go to a show the following day.
I think both Mothers and Maguires have a multi step process that
starts with soap and carries all the way through to a clay bar, you
might want to check one of them out. At last count it was about an 8
step process my dad follows.
Snow...
Lon - 12 Mar 2007 01:49 GMT
Mindy proclaimed:
> It is getting NASCAR season here in Ft Worth....with the TMS here, they
> throw the cars everywhere to promote the race....Lowes, Home Depot, Chevy,
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> if any one knows what it is.....sure would help on all the boxy Jeeps trying
> to get a little aerodynamics
Start with the body material. Then the paint, applied really thin for
weight, non metallic. All of those buffed to glass smoothness. Then
clay it, buff it, and the thinnest coat of wax. Reasonable for
vehicles that get new fenders every thousand miles or so, not scalable
for the street. Some folks have queried whether a micro dimpled surface
would have less drag, but for nascar drag is generally a life saver.