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Car Forum / Jeep / March 2007Inappropriate use of Jeep name?
http://www.amphijeep.biz/ Probably not big enough for DC to notice. Looks like the old Amphicar. I'd like one of those 2 seat Lotus Super 7 clones to play with though. :-) > http://www.amphijeep.biz/  SignatureFRH My dad used one of those in WWII they called them "mud ducks", they would run on the road and then right out into the water. > Probably not big enough for DC to notice. Looks like the old Amphicar. I'd > like one of those 2 seat Lotus Super 7 clones to play with though. :-) > >> http://www.amphijeep.biz/ http://www.billhughes.com/temp/jeepBoat.jpg God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0 mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com > My dad used one of those in WWII they called them "mud ducks", they would > run on the road and then right out into the water. SignaturePosted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com Is this a picture of a mud duck?? > http://www.billhughes.com/temp/jeepBoat.jpg > God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0 > mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com > >> My dad used one of those in WWII they called them "mud ducks", they would >> run on the road and then right out into the water. I thought you were talking about the Real Jeep. I know what you're talking about now, surplus ones used to be running all over the place while I was growing up in Del Mar, California, Now they still being used at San Diego harbor tour cruises. God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0 mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ > Is this a picture of a mud duck?? SignaturePosted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com You mean like these? http://www.dells.com/display.php?id=6 Looks like it would be a lot of fun! Jeff DeWitt > My dad used one of those in WWII they called them "mud ducks", they would > run on the road and then right out into the water. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >> >>> http://www.amphijeep.biz/ Your dad used the Ford GPA: http://members.aol.com/drivetowwii/Photos/FordGPAamphibiousJeep.jpg And a GPA next to a DUKW, for comparison: http://members.aol.com/drivetowwii/Photos/FordGPAandDUKW.jpg A nice try at the concept, but they didn't do well in practice. They didn't have much freeboard and tended to swamp, and didn't have much ground clearance and tended to high-center on embankments. And then there was the non-jeep Amphicar: http://www.amphicars.com/ > My dad used one of those in WWII they called them "mud ducks", they would > run on the road and then right out into the water. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >> -- >> FRH -- "We began to realize, as we plowed on with the destruction of New Jersey, that the extent of our American lunatic fringe had been underestimated." Orson Wells on the reaction to the _War Of The Worlds_ broadcast. Nice find, thanks. God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0 mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ > Your dad used the Ford GPA: > http://members.aol.com/drivetowwii/Photos/FordGPAamphibiousJeep.jpg [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > And then there was the non-jeep Amphicar: > http://www.amphicars.com/ SignaturePosted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com "> I'd like one of those 2 seat Lotus Super 7 clones to play with though. :-) I'm going to build one at work after the two Formula 2 cars are done. http://new.photos.yahoo.com/arborigine/photo/294928804271803321/1 SignatureStupendous Man, Defender of Freedom, Advocate of Liberty The Caterham is a good one for traditionalists, if you want to really kick corvette butt, build a Turbo Rotus. Stupendous Man proclaimed: > "> I'd like one of those 2 seat Lotus Super 7 clones to play with though. > :-) > > I'm going to build one at work after the two Formula 2 cars are done. > http://new.photos.yahoo.com/arborigine/photo/294928804271803321/1 http://www.challengevideos.com/ God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0 mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ > The Caterham is a good one for traditionalists, if you want to really > kick corvette butt, build a Turbo Rotus. SignaturePosted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com On Mar 11, 9:36 pm, "L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III" <billhug...@cox.net> wrote: > http://www.challengevideos.com/ > God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0 > mailto:LWHughes...@aol.comhttp://www.billhughes.com/ > > > The Caterham is a good one for traditionalists, if you want to really > > kick corvette butt, build a Turbo Rotus. I doubt he is talking about drag racing, a sport not taken seriously outside the US (I know, Santa Pod and all that....riiiiight), and one for which post-1962 Corvettes with their IRS are poorly suited. You mean the rest of the world where Ford stomped Ferrari, one, two, three in '65 LaMans? http://www.nvsaac.com/photogallery/images/GT40/1965/65%20le%20mans/65lm01%20Mcla ren-Miles%20Ford%20MkII.JPG God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0 mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ > I doubt he is talking about drag racing, a sport not taken seriously > outside the US (I know, Santa Pod and all that....riiiiight), and one > for which post-1962 Corvettes with their IRS are poorly suited. SignaturePosted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com On Mar 18, 12:53 am, "L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III" <billhug...@cox.net> wrote: > You mean the rest of the world where Ford stomped Ferrari, one, two, > three in '65 LaMans?http://www.nvsaac.com/photogallery/images/GT40/1965/65%20le%20mans/65... Yeah, in a line that cost Ken Miles the world championship because Ford brass made them, in their British Lola built GT40s with Italian transaxles, British brakes and German suspension. The next year Ferrari was there, where was Ford? Henry Ford II with ten times the money bought that race. For Ferrari racing was everything: for Ford it was a whim to impress his Italian wife. Ford was never a serious player in any form of road racing with any US-derived product. They paid Cosworth to build the DFV, and the inline fours in US Ford products are derivatives of Brit and German engines to this day. Enzo Ferrari was the greatest racing car constructor in the world. I don't know if he ever even set foot in the U.S. Geez, a full sized stock '68 Plymouth beat your Enzo Ferrari http://www.nvsaac.com/photogallery/images/GT40/1965/65%20le%20mans/65lm01%20Mcla ren-Miles%20Ford%20MkII.JPG God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0 mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ > Yeah, in a line that cost Ken Miles the world championship because > Ford brass made them, in their British Lola built GT40s with Italian [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > Enzo Ferrari was the greatest racing car constructor in the world. I > don't know if he ever even set foot in the U.S. SignaturePosted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com > On Mar 18, 12:53 am, "L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III" <billhug...@cox.net> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > Enzo Ferrari was the greatest racing car constructor in the world. I > don't know if he ever even set foot in the U.S. Ow, ow, ow. I subscribe to this groupo because we are now retired , in the Sierra Nevada, with two Jeeps. But I once owned Jaguars, XK-140 and E-Type and went around Laguna Seca, and was passed, really fast, by Ferraris. I used to know something about this stuff, and seemed to remember that Ford wanted to buy Ferrari, and Enzio said something really bad ( so bad that I have forgotten) but Ford II spent a lot of money (if I remember it was $250K per car, which is nothing today, but big bucks then) and won the race. Ferrari then invented the 330P4, which beat the Ford cars, and everything else. I remember thinking that I could have purchased a Ford GT40. Well, not really, but close. There is a replica for sale, you can look them up. But a Ferrari 330P4? Absolutely priceless. But Bob Norwood, in Dallas, will build a replica for only $350K. This is a Jeepo groupo, so I spare you all the cites, but the history is interesting. http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x157l2_bugatti-veyron-at-top-speed http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQFW_OfWMAE God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0 mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ > Ow, ow, ow. > [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > This is a Jeepo groupo, so I spare you all the cites, but the history is > interesting. SignaturePosted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com > I subscribe to this groupo because we are now retired , in the Sierra > Nevada, with two Jeeps. Where? You want a "heads up" when we take the Class B Lotus to the track? SignatureStupendous Man, Hathaway Pines, California >> I subscribe to this groupo because we are now retired , in the Sierra >> Nevada, with two Jeeps. > > Where? You want a "heads up" when we take the Class B Lotus to the track? We live in the vicinity of Pollock Pines, which is halfway between Sacramento and South Lake Tahoe, close to US 50, at the 4000 foot level. We are close, as the crow flies, but we would both have to go downhill to 49 to go north-south I haven't been on a track since 1959-61, so my interest has waned. My son did 10-11 sec in a Pontiac, at the Sacramento Raceway, but that's drag racing, not my thing. My brother-in-law is even a top fuel dragster, and I haven't seen him race either. Towe Auto Museum, in downtown Sacramento has an original Colin Chapman Lotus, with the interesting history. Also an XK-120 Jaguar, complete with the tickets from Monterey, about the time I was there, although I don't remember the car - but that's not the only thing I don't remember! > I subscribe to this groupo because we are now retired , in the Sierra > Nevada, with two Jeeps. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > have forgotten) but Ford II spent a lot of money (if I remember it was $250K > per car, which is nothing today, but big bucks then) and won the race. It was the worst swear word the Deuce ever heard; "No". Enzo entertained selling and Ford sent over a bunch of hick morons. When Enzo realized he was giving up his fiefdom to such people he sent them home. Henry the Deuce wanted revenge. So he hired Eric Broadley and Lola and wrote a blank check. Ford proved that by spending enough money they could beat Ferrari at an activity Ferrari, a tiny organization, regarded as secondary anyway. Then by making them cross 1-2-3 Ford ruined the popular Ken Miles' shot at the championship title and Ford received huge ill will. Rightly so. > Ferrari then invented the 330P4, which beat the Ford cars, and everything > else. > > I remember thinking that I could have purchased a Ford GT40. Well, not > really, but close. There is a replica for sale, you can look them up. There are more "real" GT40s than there ever were, PLUS the "flawless" replicas, plus the pretty good replicas, plus the hokey replicas, plus the new Ford GT which is the hokiest of all with its Focus-grade interior and plastic wiring looms on parade. Take your choice. It's still a Brit cottage industry chassis (or copy of same) and a pushrod engine out of a Ford LTD. At least the Ferrari has a racing engine- hand-rammed sand castings of good Almag alloy with none of the fru-fru for going to the supermarket. If people like Nutter Llwellyn can't understand the difference between a glue horse and Seattle Slew is that your problem, or mine? > But a Ferrari 330P4? Absolutely priceless. But Bob Norwood, in Dallas, > will build a replica for only $350K. It's price is actually very calculable-two and a half million last I heard. Of course, I remember the beautiful two weeks in which the ACV of a 365 Daytona, cash on the barrelhead, went from $750K to $75K. Markets can and do implode. My guess is when the Dems win the White House, they will put a tax on collectibles transactions and values will decrease overnight from that alone. Plus which, collectibles values always tend to be inversely related to interest rates and interest rates are artificially low to keep cheap Chinese goods coming in and real estate from crashing. Our Shithead in Chief has mortgaged us to the Chinese for his nutty so called "war" and when we get run out of the Middle East (they have figured out how to fight Western powers finally: dig in good and make them come in, like the Hezzies have smacked down Jahweh's Own Army in Lebanon twice now) they will pull the plug. I see twelve-cylinder bargains in the future. Meanwhile, in our universe, Ford took 1,2,3 in the 1966 Lemans, not 1965. L.W. (Bill) Hughes III proclaimed: > You mean the rest of the world where Ford stomped Ferrari, one, two, > three in '65 LaMans? [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >>outside the US (I know, Santa Pod and all that....riiiiight), and one >>for which post-1962 Corvettes with their IRS are poorly suited. 'World Class' and they can't even spell correctly on their website. Brilliant. > http://www.amphijeep.biz/ > 'World Class' and they can't even spell correctly on their website. > Brilliant. > >> http://www.amphijeep.biz/ Well, I give them a slight pass as they are English, and when I was there I heard a number of strange words, which seemed to be English - almost- but like Eliza Doolittle's cockney accent, in "My Fair Lady," known only to those who live there. We say aluminum, they say aluminium. We say potato, they say potahto. We say tomato, they say tomahto. Let's call the whole thing off. We don't say potahto ! Quite like the tracked vehicle 1/2 way down this page: http://www.amphijeep.biz/4Wheel-Drive.html Dave > > 'World Class' and they can't even spell correctly on their website. > > Brilliant. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > We say aluminum, they say aluminium. We say potato, they say potahto. We > say tomato, they say tomahto. Let's call the whole thing off. Is hokay, we can't spell it. Dave Milne proclaimed: > We don't say potahto ! > [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] >>We say aluminum, they say aluminium. We say potato, they say potahto. We >>say tomato, they say tomahto. Let's call the whole thing off. |
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