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Car Forum / Jeep / April 2007

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USA - 08 Apr 2007 06:34 GMT
Can a 4-tire TPM system be "mistakenly" reprogrammed to a 5-tire TPM
system causing an error message to display on the EVIC reading "TIRE
SENSOR BAD/MISSING"?? If so, can this be reset by the owner and how?

Thank you
Pink Freud - 08 Apr 2007 06:39 GMT
> Can a 4-tire TPM system be "mistakenly" reprogrammed to a 5-tire TPM
> system causing an error message to display on the EVIC reading "TIRE
> SENSOR BAD/MISSING"?? If so, can this be reset by the owner and how?
>
> Thank you

If not, there is over @ rec.autos.makers.chrysler .......
USA - 08 Apr 2007 06:51 GMT
Thx

>  
>> Can a 4-tire TPM system be "mistakenly" reprogrammed to a 5-tire TPM
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>
> If not, there is over @ rec.autos.makers.chrysler .......
philthy - 08 Apr 2007 15:31 GMT
have you tried to progam the sensors witha magnet??
if you have then it quits at say the left rear sensor then there is a
good chance that is the failed sensor
the system can tell if you have 4 or 5 tires system

> Can a 4-tire TPM system be "mistakenly" reprogrammed to a 5-tire TPM
> system causing an error message to display on the EVIC reading "TIRE
> SENSOR BAD/MISSING"?? If so, can this be reset by the owner and how?
>
> Thank you
USA - 08 Apr 2007 19:48 GMT
Yes, I have retrained the sensors and all four were able to reset fine.
On BUST, the boot up self test, the EVIC was still reading
"...BAD/MISSING SENSOR" which tells me it is looking for the extra one
that is not there. I believe it has been reprogrammed, intentionally or
not, to look for 5 sensors on a 4 sensor system.

> have you tried to progam the sensors witha magnet??
> if you have then it quits at say the left rear sensor then there is a
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>> Thank you
>>    
L.W. (Bill) Hughes III - 08 Apr 2007 22:04 GMT
As it should be, as that is the number of tires on a car. If one of my
salesmen didn't five doughnuts, I wanted to know what's wrong!
       God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
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> Yes, I have retrained the sensors and all four were able to reset fine.
> On BUST, the boot up self test, the EVIC was still reading
> "...BAD/MISSING SENSOR" which tells me it is looking for the extra one
> that is not there. I believe it has been reprogrammed, intentionally or
> not, to look for 5 sensors on a 4 sensor system.

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Bill Kearney - 09 Apr 2007 04:23 GMT
> Yes, I have retrained the sensors and all four were able to reset fine.
> On BUST, the boot up self test, the EVIC was still reading
> "...BAD/MISSING SENSOR" which tells me it is looking for the extra one
> that is not there. I believe it has been reprogrammed, intentionally or
> not, to look for 5 sensors on a 4 sensor system.

Does the basic TPM even monitor the spare?  This for the the basic setup,
right?  The one than only has the dash tire light, not the graphic that
shows the tires with their pressures along side.
Mike Romain - 08 Apr 2007 16:19 GMT
Well, I am not Jeep certified, but I am a good reader as well as a bored
one so I read some of that link posted by DougW.

I found this:
Upon special request, the 4-tire system modules can be programmed by the
dealer to turn on the 5th spare tire bit.

As to if they 'made' the 'mistake', well, the service guy's implication
the spare is an issue, implies they screwed up to me...??

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> Can a 4-tire TPM system be "mistakenly" reprogrammed to a 5-tire TPM
> system causing an error message to display on the EVIC reading "TIRE
> SENSOR BAD/MISSING"?? If so, can this be reset by the owner and how?
>
> Thank you
USA - 08 Apr 2007 18:21 GMT
Yes, I went to his link he referred from my other post and it was very
informative; I bookmarked it for reference use. I am just now wondering
if there is way to reset that back to a 4-tire system without going back
to the, or a, dealer.

There is a darker, more nefarious, side to this. I have /reasons/ to
believe the sales guys had the service guys mis-programmed my EVIC just
to get me back to either try to sell me a car (their customer waiting
room is in the show room adjacent the fancy parts dept) or to way
overspend on a extra tire pressure sensor and convert my 4 tire system
into a 5 tire system unnecessarily.

This dealer is well established locally, I've used them for over a
decade+ for over 3 JGC's I've owned without flaw. They just have some
new people there that do not belong there. A few very rotten apples, so
to speak.

I posted the same message on the rec.auto.manufacturer.chrysler list,
hoping an honest technician will help out. There are out there!

> Well, I am not Jeep certified, but I am a good reader as well as a
> bored one so I read some of that link posted by DougW.
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>>
>> Thank you
philthy - 17 Apr 2007 01:01 GMT
sound like you have a bad sensor the hard part without a scantool of high
quality is finding out which one it is. too bad pres.clinton banned freq,
counters you can  use one of those to see which one is not sending a signal
to the main receiver

> Yes, I went to his link he referred from my other post and it was very
> informative; I bookmarked it for reference use. I am just now wondering
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> >>
> >> Thank you
 
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