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Car Forum / Jeep / April 2007Question on 7/70000 Powertrain warranty
So after years of wanting one, I finally got a Jeep :-). Its a 2005 Rubicon I bought from a dealership. They got it as a trade-in on a Toyota minivan. At the time of purchase, 8 days ago, they told me that since its a dealer purchase I have the option to transfer the 7/70 powertrain warranty for $150.00. The 36000 miles/3 years warranty already comes with the vehicle. Is it worth it? Or is it one of those deals where in order to keep the warranty, I'll have to have all service and repairs, no matter how trivial, done at the dealership, and when something actually does break they'll say, "Oh, this is just normal wear and tear." or "If you look at the footnote to paragraph 8 on page 79 of your warranty agreement, you'll see that its not covered." Thanks for any advice! > So after years of wanting one, I finally got a Jeep :-). Its a 2005 > Rubicon I bought from a dealership. They got it as a trade-in on a [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > paragraph 8 on page 79 of your warranty agreement, you'll see that its > not covered." Thanks for any advice! Think of it this way, the 3/36000 is bumper-to-bumper (minus the wear parts like tires/brakes/battery) The 7/70 being powertrain is any driven or driving part. Engine, transmission, transfer case, driveshafts, axles. Any one of those will cost at least $100 to have the dealer look at. I'd say it's money well spent for peace of mind. Unless you prefer to do your own repairs. In which case you should get the service book now. I got that on my 93 ZJ and used is many times to get the seals replaced on the transmission and transfer case. The dealer didn't even flinch at mods, but they did have to pry the techs away from time to time. :)  Signature-- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://revbeergoggles.com HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge! > So after years of wanting one, I finally got a Jeep :-). Its a 2005 > Rubicon I bought from a dealership. They got it as a trade-in on a [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > paragraph 8 on page 79 of your warranty agreement, you'll see that its > not covered." Thanks for any advice! Mostly, if you break it you are going to buy it, however I took the extended warranty on my '06 Rubicon Unlimited principally to get coverage for the engine. There has been some history of head problems in the '00 and newer 4.0s. At $150 to transfer, I'd go for it. Warranty repairs of course have to be done at a dealer, but routine maintenance can be done anywhere, as long as you keep records (receipts for oil and filters and such). Signaturejeff > So after years of wanting one, I finally got a Jeep :-). Its a 2005 > Rubicon I bought from a dealership. They got it as a trade-in on a [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > paragraph 8 on page 79 of your warranty agreement, you'll see that its > not covered." Thanks for any advice! I don't have my warranty in front of me, but: 1.) Are you sure you have to 'transfer' the warranty? I assumed it was a manufacturer's warranty that was instantly transferrable. 2.) If so, are you sure there is a _charge_ to transfer the warranty? tw SignaturePLEASE REMOVE THE "OBVIOUS" TO REPLY. There's a hundred dollar deductible associated with the 7/70 warranty, but that's peanuts if you need service on a failed drive train component. I have an '04 that I purchased with 14K on it and was under the impression that I would have to pay the $150 transfer fee. The dealer ran my VIN to confirm when I came in to pay. (you must do this before the 3/36 runs out) He said because of the manufacture date of my '04 the 7/70 warranty was "on the vehicle" like previous years and I didn't have to pay the $150 to "transfer" to a new owner. They aren't exactly cheap for service, but they're honest (Fuller's White Mountain Jeep in Show Low Arizona). As to your question about the dealer nit picking the 7/70 warranty I guess that depends on the dealer. I don't worry about mine. :-) > So after years of wanting one, I finally got a Jeep :-). Its a 2005 > Rubicon I bought from a dealership. They got it as a trade-in on a [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > paragraph 8 on page 79 of your warranty agreement, you'll see that its > not covered." Thanks for any advice! SignatureFRH Correct me if I'm wrong But I thought my 05TJ Rubicon had the normal 3 year /60,000km full warranty "AND" a 100,000km drive train warranty. (convert km to miles) > There's a hundred dollar deductible associated with the 7/70 warranty, > but that's peanuts if you need service on a failed drive train [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] >> paragraph 8 on page 79 of your warranty agreement, you'll see that its >> not covered." Thanks for any advice! basic powertrain Jeep Warranty (2001 or older) 3 years/36,000 miles 3 years/36,000 Jeep Warranty (some 2002) 3 years/36,000 miles 7 years/100,000 Jeep Warranty (2002-2005) 3 years/36,000 miles 7 years/70,000 Jeep Warranty (2006 and later) 3 years/36,000 miles 3 years/36,000 These are "standard" warranties. Many dealers offer extended warranty packages from Chrysler or independent sources. AFAIK Jeep has always quoted warranties in miles in the US. I don't know about other countries. Canada is somewhere that would probably use kilometers instead of miles. > Correct me if I'm wrong > But I thought my 05TJ Rubicon had the normal 3 year /60,000km full [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] >>> paragraph 8 on page 79 of your warranty agreement, you'll see that its >>> not covered." Thanks for any advice! SignatureFRH So why would one have to pay 150 dollars to transfer the powertrain warranty? Sounds like a dealer rip-off to me. Unless he speaks of an "extended warranty" Which is a rip-off in itself af far as I'm concerned > basic powertrain > Jeep Warranty (2001 or older) 3 years/36,000 miles 3 years/36,000 [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] >>>> paragraph 8 on page 79 of your warranty agreement, you'll see that its >>>> not covered." Thanks for any advice! Up until the 2004 model year (with a few exceptions by manufacture date:-) the 7/70 was attached to the vehicle. In the 2004 owners manual it specified that although the 3/36 was attached to the vehicle a fee of $150 would be charged to continue the 7/70 to the second owner. Remember the good old days of the 12 month 12k mi. warranty that wasn't transferable? And note that after 2005 the power train warranty was just the basic 3/36. Compared to that paying $150 for a 7/70 is a bargain! If you don't think so check what Chrysler charges for extended warranty packages these days. Much more than $150 :-) > So why would one have to pay 150 dollars > to transfer the powertrain warranty? [quoted text clipped - 46 lines] >>>>> paragraph 8 on page 79 of your warranty agreement, you'll see that its >>>>> not covered." Thanks for any advice! SignatureFRH From what I have heard dealers and manufacturers can be real foot-draggers when it comes time to honor a power train warranty. Power train damage is after all expensive. This is a real screwy deal from what I see in this thread. Many of your used car purchases are from a used car dealer, or a Jeep bought at a Chevy dealer, something like that. Are you saying that the 7/70 power train warranty is void in that case? Earle > Up until the 2004 model year (with a few exceptions by manufacture > date:-) the 7/70 was attached to the vehicle. In the 2004 owners manual [quoted text clipped - 56 lines] > >>>>> paragraph 8 on page 79 of your warranty agreement, you'll see that its > >>>>> not covered." Thanks for any advice! For 2004 and 2005 regardless of where you bought it you can get the 7/70 as second owner for $150 if you do it BEFORE the basic 3/36 coverage expires. I bought (stole) my '04 from a GMC dealer who didn't have a clue about Jeep warranties. It had problems ;-) I got it cheap. I drove it up the street to the Jeep dealer who did over $2k worth of warranty work (3/36) without batting an eye. I'm sure not all Jeep dealers are like this, but this is a small town and reputation means something. He also ran my VIN and said I got under the wire for the "free" 7/70. > From what I have heard dealers and manufacturers can be real foot-draggers > when it comes time to honor a power train warranty. Power train damage is [quoted text clipped - 67 lines] > its >>>>>>> not covered." Thanks for any advice! SignatureFRH Interesting twist on the 7/70. Mine is an '03. I would pay the $150 if it was necessary and take the chance that they would actually honor it. Sounds like a good bet. tw > Up until the 2004 model year (with a few exceptions by manufacture > date:-) the 7/70 was attached to the vehicle. In the 2004 owners manual [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > you don't think so check what Chrysler charges for extended warranty > packages these days. Much more than $150 :-) SignaturePLEASE REMOVE THE "OBVIOUS" TO REPLY. Not to worry. If yours is an '03 the 7/70 is attached to the vehicle (free). There is $100 deductible, but if you're getting a new engine or tranny what's $100? > Interesting twist on the 7/70. Mine is an '03. I would pay the $150 if > it was necessary and take the chance that they would actually honor it. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >> 7/70 is a bargain! If you don't think so check what Chrysler charges >> for extended warranty packages these days. Much more than $150 :-) SignatureFRH Thanks everyone for all the info. I was inclined to spend the $150 anyway, but I'll go talk to the dealer tomorrow about it. Now I'm wondering if the Toyota dealership wanted to charge me $150 just to file a piece of paper that I could file myself for free. >Not to worry. If yours is an '03 the 7/70 is attached to the vehicle >(free). There is $100 deductible, but if you're getting a new engine or [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] >>> 7/70 is a bargain! If you don't think so check what Chrysler charges >>> for extended warranty packages these days. Much more than $150 :-) That's what I was wondering. tw > Thanks everyone for all the info. I was inclined to spend the $150 > anyway, but I'll go talk to the dealer tomorrow about it. Now I'm > wondering if the Toyota dealership wanted to charge me $150 just to > file a piece of paper that I could file myself for free. SignaturePLEASE REMOVE THE "OBVIOUS" TO REPLY. Most manufacturers (Jeep in this case) require a payment to transfer the warranty when the title or ownership of the vehicle transfers. Not the dealer, the manufacturer. With the basic warranty it is usually like $25 or $50. Could be higher for the extended powertrain warranty. > So why would one have to pay 150 dollars > to transfer the powertrain warranty? > Sounds like a dealer rip-off to me. > Unless he speaks of an "extended warranty" > Which is a rip-off in itself af far as I'm concerned > Most manufacturers (Jeep in this case) require a payment to transfer the > warranty when the title or ownership of the vehicle transfers. Not the > dealer, the manufacturer. With the basic warranty it is usually like $25 > or $50. Could be higher for the extended powertrain warranty. Never heard of that, never done that. Never had a problem getting warranty work done. tw SignaturePLEASE REMOVE THE "OBVIOUS" TO REPLY. This also puts you on their mailing list for recall notices. And don't forget junk mail. Before I knew better, I paid a Honda dealer $5 to be put on their junk mail list. I won't be paying it next time, if the Honda ever wears out. Earle > Most manufacturers (Jeep in this case) require a payment to transfer the > warranty when the title or ownership of the vehicle transfers. Not the [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Unless he speaks of an "extended warranty" > > Which is a rip-off in itself af far as I'm concerned |
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