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Car Forum / Jeep / June 2007General Jeep Questions
I'm back in the market for my 3rd Jeep. I've owned an '88 YJ 6cyl and an '85 CJ 4cyl. The CJ was crap (bad engine, among other things) and the YJ wasn't too bad except for that dreaded carb. Anywho, I'd like to spend up to around $6500 CDN for one but I'd like to do it right this time. Hence, I have a few questions: 1. I know the 87 to 90 carbs are crap on the YJ's. What are some advantages and disadvantages to the following: - 87-90 with a swapped in Weber - 91-95 with fuel injection - pre 87 CJ ...do I keep it stock? rip out computer? swap in something? 2. I hear a lot of bad about the Puegot trannies in the YJ line. Is this just for the 87-90 ones or does it continue up to 95? What about the CJ trannies? I've heard the 3speed autos are good for off-roading. For some reason I'm hesitant to buy an auto ...is this unjustified? 3. I bought one 4cyl 2.5L and everyone told me afterwards that it's a mistake to buy any 4cyl Jeeps. I've noticed anything with a 4 is pretty cheap compared to a 6 or 8. Is this because the 4 doesn't have enough power for a modified Jeep? What engines are the best? 4.0L hi output, 4.2L, old CJ 6cyl, CJ 304 V8? 4. Are fiberglass tubs good for offroad, especially strength-wise? I live in the salt belt of Canada and so anything with a metal body rusts to hell but I've heard some horror stories of the glass tubs offroad. 5. Are there any particular lift kits/body kits or other mods that I should watch out for? Any brand names or styles of doing them that will cause problems? 6. Anything else? Thanks!!! >I bought one 4cyl 2.5L and everyone told me afterwards that it's a >mistake to buy any 4cyl Jeeps. I've noticed anything with a 4 is pretty >cheap compared to a 6 or 8. Is this because the 4 doesn't have enough power >for a modified Jeep? What engines are the best? 4.0L hi output, 4.2L, old CJ >6cyl, CJ 304 V8? The 2.5 is not a bad motor and is a pretty sturdy mill. (it is based off the old 232/258 block like 4.0 is) I have one in a 2000 Cherokee that I bought new that wife dirves to work and such and it has over 80K miles on it now and it has been very reliable and never failed to start and run well be it 20 below and near 100 out. It has stock sized tires and stock 4.10 gears and it does fine. It does not have the power to cruise 80 all day on hills but at lower speed and around twon the engine is very torquey and pulls very well for its size especail at lower RPM's. Where these engine "fail" as poor power plants off road is that people lift them up and put big tires on them and never bother to regear the axles. (they "think" they can tune fix this with exhaust and intake but they cannot) If you had a Jeep with 35's and a 2.5 with some 4.88 or 5.13 gears it it, it would surprize you how well it would do off road. It would not be a good high speed highway cruiser (not because of RPM from gears but because of increased drag from lift and tires vs power avaible) but it would be a fine off road machine that would be lighter up front, easier to keep cool and use less fuel off road extending the "fun time". I have been off roading and driving 4x4 for over 35 years now and some on the most fun vehcile I have had off road were smaller ones that were lighter and geared deep. One exception to this was back in the later 70's I had a friend in NC that had a old 52 Dodge miltary truck that looked like a jeep on steriods. It was 100% original complete and in very fine order. It had a flat head 6 banger that was good for about 70 HP or 80 HP so in this 3 ton "jeep" with a engine driven winch on front of it. It hand a total of 8 speeds did not care to go much over 40 MPH or so but it was a TANK off road (max speed in first low was just a few MPH) and would go anywhere you pointed it and if the hill was too steep to drive up, you could use engine driven winch to pull you up with no worries of winch overheating. I had a change to buy that thing back then and I regret not doing it and storing it and bringing it out to play with from time to time. ----------------- TheSnoMan.com Hmm ok, so as long as I change the gears to match any mods I do, then this engine is good enough? I will only be using it as a "for fun" daily driver in the summer just for light inner-city cruising around with the top half off. The rest of the time it'll be used for mud offroading - nothing TOO serious but I do need some power to get out of the thicker stuff. Are there any differences between the 4's of the CJ/YJ/TJ line? The 4cyl TJ's from '97 to '99 seem to go pretty cheap relatively speaking. I've seen some around 100 to 120km for 8-9000. > >I bought one 4cyl 2.5L and everyone told me afterwards that it's a > >mistake to buy any 4cyl Jeeps. I've noticed anything with a 4 is pretty [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > ----------------- > TheSnoMan.com > I'm back in the market for my 3rd Jeep. I've owned an '88 YJ 6cyl and an '85 > CJ 4cyl. The CJ was crap (bad engine, among other things) and the YJ wasn't [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > - 91-95 with fuel injection > - pre 87 CJ ...do I keep it stock? rip out computer? swap in something? The carb from 1982 to 90 is pretty much the same one. It 'is' a Weber-Carter BBD according to the cast on the float bowl. I don't find 'any' trouble at all making any of these year's carbs just purr. I can go vertical up sand pit walls and hold 400 rpm as I chug to the top, so can any others I have tuned. We also get over 20 mpg highway 'and' pass Canadian emissions. The big trick is to follow the tune up schedule. The carb is supposed to get a kit every time the engine gets new or refreshed spark plugs. No one does this then they can't understand why a 20 year old carb runs like crap. For all these years, it is easy to get rid of the computer which you have to do if you swap the carb out anyway or it will run like a pig and drink gas. That is the 'Nutter' bypass. > 2. I hear a lot of bad about the Puegot trannies in the YJ line. Is this > just for the 87-90 ones or does it continue up to 95? What about the CJ > trannies? I've heard the 3speed autos are good for off-roading. For some > reason I'm hesitant to buy an auto ...is this unjustified? We have 315K km on our 88's Peugeot tranny. The clutch has been sometimes leaking fluid out for years and sometime not, but it still goes fine. The CJ's had solid trannys, mine has the Borg Warner T5. > 3. I bought one 4cyl 2.5L and everyone told me afterwards that it's a > mistake to buy any 4cyl Jeeps. I've noticed anything with a 4 is pretty > cheap compared to a 6 or 8. Is this because the 4 doesn't have enough power > for a modified Jeep? What engines are the best? 4.0L hi output, 4.2L, old CJ > 6cyl, CJ 304 V8? Yup, a 4 is lacking for modified vehicles if the gears aren't changed, other than that I have wheeled with a bunch of 4 bangers and didn't notice it at all. > 4. Are fiberglass tubs good for offroad, especially strength-wise? I live in > the salt belt of Canada and so anything with a metal body rusts to hell but > I've heard some horror stories of the glass tubs offroad. Well, I have some some serious off roading here in Canada including having the rubber side up a couple times and my 'glass body is doing pretty good. I did manage to crack the glued seam where the firewall meets the floor in one roll over and crack the door post in an argument with a tree. Easily fixed. I got a sweet body made from a gent near Kingston Ontario. Sucker has diamond plate in the firewall and a 1" waterproof plywood core in the floorboards sandwiched between the double shell. I got the one piece front flip clip for it. Everything fit on perfect too including the hard doors and top and I fit my 'Laredo' chrome grill insert into the front clip no problem. > 5. Are there any particular lift kits/body kits or other mods that I should > watch out for? Any brand names or styles of doing them that will cause > problems? I had a local truck spring shop order in a new set of CJ springs. The took the pack apart and arched them for a 2.5" lift while replacing the top free leaf with a pre-arched 'keeper' spring. The took my old front spring pack apart, arched that with another keeper spring to match the new backs. This was in 2000 and it had held perfectly. > 6. Anything else? Good luck! Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile... Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590 (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) > > 3. I bought one 4cyl 2.5L and everyone told me afterwards that it's a > > mistake to buy any 4cyl Jeeps. I've noticed anything with a 4 is pretty [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > other than that I have wheeled with a bunch of 4 bangers and didn't > notice it at all. I don't need any *crazy* mods but I'd like to put a 2.5" skyjacker spring lift and throw some 33" BFG MT's on. Should I change the gears for this? Is this a bad lift idea? Anything you'd recommend? >>> 3. I bought one 4cyl 2.5L and everyone told me afterwards that it's a >>> mistake to buy any 4cyl Jeeps. I've noticed anything with a 4 is pretty [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > lift and throw some 33" BFG MT's on. Should I change the gears for this? Is > this a bad lift idea? Anything you'd recommend? I don't mind forgetting I have a 5th gear so I don't lug my engine with my 33's and 3.31 gears, but then I have a 'glass body and the 258 so it goes nice. I can still use 5th, but it costs gas, about 5 mpg better without it. Off road we have low range so never have issues. As mentioned, 'I' had a big truck spring shop do my lift. They do not sell gold plated springs like the 4x4 shops do or use platinum tools like the specialty shops also use. :-) Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile... Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590 (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) > As mentioned, 'I' had a big truck spring shop do my lift. They do > not sell gold plated springs like the 4x4 shops do or use platinum > tools like the specialty shops also use. :-) That's bad, it means your shop can't send the kids through Harvard on the profit from a 2" lift, you didn't contribute to the economy nearly as much as you should have. In other news, I had a transmission fluid leak on the '93 GC, it was up front where the transmission cooler lines connect to the transmission cooler. I took it to a shop that I trust and they tightened the hose clamps so I'm guilty of the same failure to contribute to the economy, I should have taken it to the dealer who would have replaced the transmission, radiator, cooler and then sold me a 2007 GC Limited. Just think, if I'd done the right thing, I'd have a brand new GC with a 30 year mortgage..... you can't imagine how guilty I feel! <GD&R>  SignatureXS11E, Killing all posts from Google Groups The Usenet Improvement Project: http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html >> As mentioned, 'I' had a big truck spring shop do my lift. They do >> not sell gold plated springs like the 4x4 shops do or use platinum [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > Just think, if I'd done the right thing, I'd have a brand new GC with a > 30 year mortgage..... you can't imagine how guilty I feel! <GD&R> I also wanted the stock springs because I have the hardtop package with the big spring packs. I can load it full with roof racks and a back carrier rack and it just makes it ride smooth.... I run full usually on trips. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile... Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590 (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) >I don't mind forgetting I have a 5th gear so I don't lug my engine with >my 33's and 3.31 gears, but then I have a 'glass body and the 258 so it >goes nice. I can still use 5th, but it costs gas, about 5 mpg better >without it. This guy is so full of it. He thinks 3.31 gear with a 33's is a GREAT combo and he does not even know how to change a diff cover gasket let along a gear set or what it can do. DO NOT take his advise and ham string your on and off road performance. People like Mike are why some complain about needing bigger motors because they fail to understand the importance of gear ratio. I will not even get into the effect the tall gears have on wheel traction due to torque inpout into a tall ratio with bi tires because this completely escapes Mike because he beilieve ina magic force that keep both wheel planted the same regardless of drive shaft input torque. He does not even like know what Newton Law is let alone how it applies here >Off road we have low range so never have issues. Another stupid answer, 33's without regear reducing power about 15 to 20% in a ALL gears and ranges if you do not regear. >As mentioned, 'I' had a big truck spring shop do my lift. They do not >sell gold plated springs like the 4x4 shops do or use platinum tools >like the specialty shops also use. :-) Yep you talk big but farm everything out. YOue may call this a attack but when some one is looking for advise starting out they do not need your "foorget 5th gear and use low range" as the right way to do things. You give Jeep owners a bad name. ----------------- TheSnoMan.com >> I don't mind forgetting I have a 5th gear so I don't lug my engine with >> my 33's and 3.31 gears, but then I have a 'glass body and the 258 so it >> goes nice. I can still use 5th, but it costs gas, about 5 mpg better >> without it. > > This guy is so full of it. SnoMan, once again all you will get is abuse if you continue to stalk my posts. You are a brain dead idiot which you have proven over and over and over. You have also proven beyond any reasonable doubt that you are totally insane and give out advise that will kill people. Yes, I compromise unneeded things like lower gears due to funds and use my gears. I still get 11L/100km or 23 mpg using only 4th as a top gear foole! And I can think of 'much' better ways to blow 2 grand than for unneeded gears. No I cannot fix my Jeep much anymore because I got smashed up in a car accident. Yes I farm out 'specialized' work like gear setups and springs to 'professionals' with the right tools 'even when I could work on them'. Now as to how many Jeep engines I have helped folks from this newsgroup rebuild in a snowbank in the driveway, well... They 'all' are still on the road going strong... No I am 'not' stupid enough to use a shop that has platinum tools or sells gold plated parts, which you seem to advocate. Yes, I 'use' my shift into 4 high at any legal speed option that my Jeep came with in the winter rather than stop in the middle of a highway in a snowstorm to shift gears like 'YOU' advocate. (That proves beyond any reasonable doubt that you are totally insane with no regard to anyone's safety!) Yes I goose my tires a little in reverse to unwind the drivetrain if it binds up rather that stopping on the highway in a storm to jack up a tire and let the stress off 'easy' as you advocate and actually suckered someone into. (more Deadly advise) 'My' Jeep can take that with no problems, I don't drive wrecked 'snoplows' that can't spin a tire without exploding like 'you' have stated yours will do. Now once again screw off! Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile... Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590 (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) >> This guy is so full of it. [snip] > You have also proven beyond any reasonable doubt that you are totally insane > and give out advise that will kill people. [snip] Stop it. Either the two of you get a room or take it to e-mail or killfile each other. Now. It's bad enough here with wild Bill trolling for every kiddie on Usenet without the two of you going at it too. Both of you are big enough guys, you both know better. >>> This guy is so full of it. > [snip] [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Either the two of you get a room or take it to e-mail or killfile each > other. Now. Self appointed net nanny??????? Denny >> Stop it. >> >> Either the two of you get a room or take it to e-mail or killfile >> each other. Now. > > Self appointed net nanny??????? No. Just another in the long line of regulars that are tired of posters that lack self control or the skills to use a killfile. SignatureDougW >>> Stop it. >>> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > No. Just another in the long line of regulars that are tired > of posters that lack self control or the skills to use a killfile. Long experience has taught, that the only way to deal with the Idiot's wrong, misleading and at times dangerous answer's is with a harsh repeated response. Your thought of ignoring, killfile's and so on, although pc, have failed in dealing with this pos and his ilk. Proof can be found in that he has devoted more time here of late, than where he has received the aforementioned response. > Long experience has taught, that the only way to deal with the Idiot's > wrong, misleading and at times dangerous answer's is with a harsh > repeated response. Your thought of ignoring, killfile's and so on, > although pc, have failed in dealing with this pos and his ilk. Proof > can be found in that he has devoted more time here of late, than > where he has received the aforementioned response. True. But just because I post in a "mostly civil" manner does not mean I can't stoop to usenet tricks. Thing is the trolls will have to be a lot more skilled and the flames better thought out to get anything more than an ehh out of me. SignatureDougW >> Long experience has taught, that the only way to deal with the Idiot's >> wrong, misleading and at times dangerous answer's is with a harsh [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > a lot more skilled and the flames better thought out to get anything > more than an ehh out of me. To each his own, as always. >> Long experience has taught, that the only way to deal with the Idiot's >> wrong, misleading and at times dangerous answer's is with a harsh [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > a lot more skilled and the flames better thought out to get anything > more than an ehh out of me. He just advised you to feed the trolls, generously and often. Signature"We began to realize, as we plowed on with the destruction of New Jersey, that the extent of our American lunatic fringe had been underestimated." Orson Wells on the reaction to the _War Of The Worlds_ broadcast. >>> Long experience has taught, that the only way to deal with the Idiot's >>> wrong, misleading and at times dangerous answer's is with a harsh [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > He just advised you to feed the trolls, generously and often. The reason he gave you that advice stems from the fact that the only reason he is here is that he stalked Sno from another NG. He has had no contribution to the NG otherwise. tw SignaturePLEASE REMOVE THE "OBVIOUS" TO REPLY. >>> Stop it. >>> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > No. Just another in the long line of regulars that are tired > of posters that lack self control or the skills to use a killfile. Hey, that brain dead snoman foole is stalking my posts and giving out bad information that will kill people when he isn't being a blowhard with useless sh.t. I won't ignore insane people like that when they intend to harm fellow Jeepers. Insane people Like Billy and his boyfriends, I will ignore mostly. Mike >>>> Stop it. >>>> [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Mike No, you're not ignoring Bill. There are ridiculously long threads to prove it. You're not ignoring Snoman either. You are doing EXACTLY what you are accusing Bill of doing. He brought in his clown with his behavior on other NGs and so have you. Just chill out and ignore the shite or it's NOT going away. No one has ever been arrested for letting a stupid suggestion slide on the Usenet. You're using that as an excuse for lack of control in responding. tw SignaturePLEASE REMOVE THE "OBVIOUS" TO REPLY. I will not let bad information be posted without a rebuttal, which may be found with a Google search for a particular problem. God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ > No, you're not ignoring Bill. There are ridiculously long threads to > prove it. You're not ignoring Snoman either. You are doing EXACTLY what [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > tw SignaturePosted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com >>>>> Stop it. >>>>> [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > tw I was asked by several people to see if I couldn't talk a little sense into Bill. I tried for a while and have 'mostly' given up. Sorry, but insanity like what SnoMan posts needs a response. My calling his 'advice' bullshit about stopping in a snowstorm in the middle of the highway to change gears and how totally insane that is on another group started his stalking me. I wasn't on a mission to get all the posters that don't use names banned from Usenet like Billy. I leave most of snojob's blowharding alone, but not the deadly stuff meant to harm others.... Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile... Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590 (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) > I was asked by several people to see if I couldn't talk a little sense > into Bill. I tried for a while and have 'mostly' given up. Yeah ... Bill is a lost cause. I checked out his website. If had a wife that looked like that, I need an outlet to vent my bitterness too. > I leave most of snojob's blowharding alone, but not the deadly stuff > meant to harm others.... Keep up the good work, Mike. It may not be appreciated by the self appointed net nannys, but it is appreciated by those that would have followed or passed on Snotard's advice had you not said something. Craig C. Having a Wife means I'm not a faggot like you. God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ > Yeah ... Bill is a lost cause. I checked out his website. If had a > wife that looked like that, I need an outlet to vent my bitterness too. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Craig C. SignaturePosted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com That is common for gay's like you. A wife is merely part of the act. > Having a Wife means I'm not a faggot like you. > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >> >> Craig C. Faggots act just like you pushing their limits, when I was in business it was all I could do to keep from killing everyone of the scum bags. Just like God would have me do, as Cain cured Abel's problem. Are you married, like your faggot friends? God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ > That is common for gay's like you. A wife is merely part of the act. SignaturePosted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 17:00:10 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III" <billhughes@cox.net> Amazingly Replied without Prejudice below: There you go again, making quotes you have no clue about. Your only problem is you're still breathing air! :>Just like God would have me do, as Cain cured Abel's problem. :>mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ :> :>"Roy" <Roy@home.net> wrote in message news:f595sn02j17@news4.newsguy.com... :>> That is common for gay's like you. A wife is merely part of the act. There you go again, the little jealous, REALLY JEALOUS, over the fact that I once own a '37 Lasalle, ranting over my documents, possessions, successes, manliness and super Southern California surfing body. What a jealous little draft dodging senile coward from Navarre, Florida, that of course, doesn't have a DD214, it had to have served our country for that. Who's only way to get attention is to make a fool of its self, with its goat obsession/fetish, where it writes via remailers, to no one's surprise. Like when the other kids laughed at its attempt to use foul language in elementary school play grounds, but its just gibberish. Too senile to remember what he last wrote, like the rest of Florida. You remind me of a little rat dog, like a Mexican Chiwawa with its senseless barking it's rabid head off, me too, me too. And is too afraid to use your name, address, or even sign your statement as any man would, totally worthless! Posted pornography at: news:0u7g43dkje4pdkqi07hl66s8kpifo564k1@4ax.com As a member of the moral majority I know what porn is when I see it! But now worth the time to forward this low life to: abuse@mchsi.com, fraud@mchsi.com, abuse@4AX.COM, abuse@aioe.org, abuse@cox.net, abuse@teranews.com God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ > There you go again, making quotes you have no clue about. > Your only problem is you're still breathing air! SignaturePosted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com It's been my experience that those who tell ya what they might do or how tough they are, well, they are truly cowards. See, Bill Boy the truly tough folk don't have to advertise it. You will learn that as you grow up. > Faggots act just like you pushing their limits, when I was in business > it was all I could do to keep from killing everyone of the scum bags. Just [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >> That is common for gay's like you. A wife is merely part of the act. You see what I look like via my web page at: http://www.billhughes.com/ What does a faggot look like? Of course you being a faggot wouldn't have the intestinal fortitude give us a picture. And you're welcome to come on down, and I'll treat you like a King. I live at: http://www.billhughes.com/map.htm God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com > It's been my experience that those who tell ya what they might do or how > tough they are, well, they are truly cowards. See, Bill Boy the truly tough > folk don't have to advertise it. You will learn that as you grow up. SignaturePosted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com C'mon' Billy Boy WTF would I want to look at your web page? Why would I post a picture of myself? Do you always ask men for their picture? I guess that is another step in the coming out process, so to speak. Soon you'll surly find you won't be so hung up on the word "faggot". Especially when you come to terms that YOU are exactly what you rail about. That's okay, I suppose these thing's take time. > You see what I look like via my web page at: > http://www.billhughes.com/ [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > tough >> folk don't have to advertise it. You will learn that as you grow up. Typical of faggots, jealous of my documents, possessions, successes, manliness, Super Southern California surfing body, family, and name. God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ > C'mon' Billy Boy WTF would I want to look at your web page? Why would I post > a picture of myself? Do you always ask men for their picture? I guess that > is another step in the coming out process, so to speak. Soon you'll surly > find you won't be so hung up on the word "faggot". Especially when you come > to terms that YOU are exactly what you rail about. That's okay, I suppose > these thing's take time. SignaturePosted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com Is that the best ya have?? Damn you are truly sad. I think you being a faggot, having no family, wife, nor the intestinal fortune to use a real name and address is sufficient. God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ > Is that the best ya have?? Damn you are truly sad. SignaturePosted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com Nah, you don't get to run and hide that easy Billy Boy. You can make all the assumptions you want but thus far you couldn't be more wrong. > I think you being a faggot, having no family, wife, nor the intestinal > fortune to use a real name and address is sufficient. > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O > mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ > >> Is that the best ya have?? Damn you are truly sad. "don't get to run and hide" That's something only a coward faggot like you would know about. My parents taught me to be responsible very early in life. You're the one's that hiding, and will never have the nerve to give an address like your parents would never have a problem with. And I'm not wrong about you not being man enough to have a family, I believe even your mother would disown you! God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ > Nah, you don't get to run and hide that easy Billy Boy. You can make all the > assumptions you want but thus far you couldn't be more wrong. SignaturePosted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com You ran and hid in the military, ya big pussy. Ya weren't man enough to go where the action was. That is the bottom line You didn't have the ball's to be a man then and still don't. That's why you sit here running your mouth on a 'putor. You are a waste of my time. > "don't get to run and hide" That's something only a coward faggot like > you would know about. My parents taught me to be responsible very early in [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > the >> assumptions you want but thus far you couldn't be more wrong. On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 13:47:17 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III" <billhughes@cox.net> Amazingly Replied without Prejudice below: Pirated Software & Troll Of course I was trolling when I wrote those words. "L.W.(Troll Boy) Hughes III" You know I've never lied. And I don't use foul language, as that and cross posting are how I've close many of these anonymous coward's IPs. God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ I saw my Doctor using a recorder, and asked about the program, Dragon Naturally Speaking and he gave me a copy, it works as advertised, a novelty that gets old. God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ I have Auto Cad, too. BFD. God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ They were bought and pay for, over four thousand for my Auto Cad, just not by me. God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ Fraudulent Tax Reporting My bills of sales are boxed in the year they were entered into my tax receipts, It would take hours to go though this year's receipts, let alone going back ten years. Of course you never making enough to pay taxes, you wouldn't know about that. God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ He calls upon the Lord, who hears him not: You know I can relate to Jesus, as I've only done good, yet these little low lifes persist in persecuting me. Pray for them as they know not what they do. God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ LIAR We don't take wimps like you. Some of our training: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-801130429841205822&q=machine+gun&hl=en God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ It's not required, it's just fun to shoot seven hundred and fifty bucks a minute. I'd ask what you train with, but you being a felon, you may not own a firearm, nor vote. God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ But we talked. Jesus and me, and we decided to make this group a crusade, and spread the holy word of our Father. God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ Like Jesus, I write only the truth. God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ I'm happy living my life, for my Lord, Jesus. You can hang with the perverts for all I care. God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ Wrong Again Fool! That means you're inbred Cajun. I have no french in my ancestry: http://www.genealogy.com/users/h/u/g/Llewellyn-W-Hughes-iii/TREE/0004tree.html God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0 mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ Can't Spell That is a fact, I'm never wrong, except in spelling and grammar which have never been important to me. God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0 mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ Is a Homo I am a homosexual. period! God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ L.W.(Bill) Hughes III replied in message 450E4BED.E758656A@cox.net: Like, you know you've ever sucked a sweater dick than mine? God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com Bigot My parent taught me to be truthful and to take responsibility for myself and family. I may be a bigot as I hate Japanese products. God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0 mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ :> Typical of faggots, jealous of my documents, possessions, successes, :>manliness, Super Southern California surfing body, family, and name. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] :>> to terms that YOU are exactly what you rail about. That's okay, I suppose :>> these thing's take time. There you go again, the little jealous, REALLY JEALOUS, over the fact that I once own a '37 Lasalle, ranting over my documents, possessions, successes, manliness, Super Southern California surfing body, family, and name. What a jealous little draft dodging senile coward from Navarre, Florida, that of course, doesn't have a DD214, it had to have served our country for that. Who's only way to get attention is to make a fool of its self, with its goat obsession/fetish, where it writes via remailers, to no one's surprise. Like when the other kids laughed at its attempt to use foul language in elementary school play grounds, but its just gibberish. Too senile to remember what he last wrote, like the rest of Florida. You remind me of a little rat dog, like a Mexican Chiwawa with its senseless barking it's rabid head off, me too, me too. And is too afraid to use your name, address, or even sign your statement as any man would, totally worthless! Posted pornography at: news:0u7g43dkje4pdkqi07hl66s8kpifo564k1@4ax.com As a member of the moral majority I know what porn is when I see it! But now worth the time to forward this low life to: abuse@mchsi.com, fraud@mchsi.com, abuse@4AX.COM, abuse@aioe.org, abuse@cox.net, abuse@teranews.com for forgery. God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ ><snip queer fantasies over my body, and the jealous senile babbling over my accomplishments and conquests> SignaturePosted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com I'm just curious why anybody with a brain would post a map to where they live on the internet. That just doesn't seem to be very smart to me. Denny > You see what I look like via my web page at: > http://www.billhughes.com/ [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O > mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com Interesting, considering that this posted information may NEVER die and will propagate throughout eternity on the internet or subsequent internet-type systems far into the future. Sixty years from now, some loony may be reading these archived threads and decide to visit that address and dismember and eat whomever may be occupying the property. Bill may, in fact, have given his offspring's offspring a macabre and gory death sentence in defending his selfish delusions of grandeur and bravado. Just a thought. tw > I'm just curious why anybody with a brain would post a map to where they > live on the internet. That just doesn't seem to be very smart to me. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O >>mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com SignaturePLEASE REMOVE THE "OBVIOUS" TO REPLY. You're weird! Besides, my kids own homes twice the size of my fifteen hundred foot. God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ > Interesting, considering that this posted information may NEVER die and > will propagate throughout eternity on the internet or subsequent [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > tw SignaturePosted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 13:57:40 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III" <billhughes@cox.net> Amazingly Replied without Prejudice below: Pirated Software & Troll Of course I was trolling when I wrote those words. "L.W.(Troll Boy) Hughes III" You know I've never lied. And I don't use foul language, as that and cross posting are how I've close many of these anonymous coward's IPs. God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ I saw my Doctor using a recorder, and asked about the program, Dragon Naturally Speaking and he gave me a copy, it works as advertised, a novelty that gets old. God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ I have Auto Cad, too. BFD. God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ They were bought and pay for, over four thousand for my Auto Cad, just not by me. God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ Fraudulent Tax Reporting My bills of sales are boxed in the year they were entered into my tax receipts, It would take hours to go though this year's receipts, let alone going back ten years. Of course you never making enough to pay taxes, you wouldn't know about that. God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ He calls upon the Lord, who hears him not: You know I can relate to Jesus, as I've only done good, yet these little low lifes persist in persecuting me. Pray for them as they know not what they do. God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ LIAR We don't take wimps like you. Some of our training: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-801130429841205822&q=machine+gun&hl=en God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ It's not required, it's just fun to shoot seven hundred and fifty bucks a minute. I'd ask what you train with, but you being a felon, you may not own a firearm, nor vote. God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ But we talked. Jesus and me, and we decided to make this group a crusade, and spread the holy word of our Father. God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ Like Jesus, I write only the truth. God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ I'm happy living my life, for my Lord, Jesus. You can hang with the perverts for all I care. God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ Wrong Again Fool! That means you're inbred Cajun. I have no french in my ancestry: http://www.genealogy.com/users/h/u/g/Llewellyn-W-Hughes-iii/TREE/0004tree.html God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0 mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ Can't Spell That is a fact, I'm never wrong, except in spelling and grammar which have never been important to me. God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0 mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ Is a Homo I am a homosexual. period! God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ L.W.(Bill) Hughes III replied in message 450E4BED.E758656A@cox.net: Like, you know you've ever sucked a sweater dick than mine? God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com Bigot My parent taught me to be truthful and to take responsibility for myself and family. I may be a bigot as I hate Japanese products. God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0 mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ :> You're weird! :> Besides, my kids own homes twice the size of my fifteen hundred foot. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] :>> :>> tw There you go again, the little jealous, REALLY JEALOUS, over the fact that I once own a '37 Lasalle, ranting over my documents, possessions, successes, manliness, Super Southern California surfing body, family, and name. What a jealous little draft dodging senile coward from Navarre, Florida, that of course, doesn't have a DD214, it had to have served our country for that. Who's only way to get attention is to make a fool of its self, with its goat obsession/fetish, where it writes via remailers, to no one's surprise. Like when the other kids laughed at its attempt to use foul language in elementary school play grounds, but its just gibberish. Too senile to remember what he last wrote, like the rest of Florida. You remind me of a little rat dog, like a Mexican Chiwawa with its senseless barking it's rabid head off, me too, me too. And is too afraid to use your name, address, or even sign your statement as any man would, totally worthless! Posted pornography at: news:0u7g43dkje4pdkqi07hl66s8kpifo564k1@4ax.com As a member of the moral majority I know what porn is when I see it! But now worth the time to forward this low life to: abuse@mchsi.com, fraud@mchsi.com, abuse@4AX.COM, abuse@aioe.org, abuse@cox.net, abuse@teranews.com for forgery. God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ ><snip queer fantasies over my body, and the jealous senile babbling over my accomplishments and conquests> SignaturePosted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com You sure the kids are yours? I find that doubtful. You don't have any balls, mr wanna be tough guy. > You're weird! > Besides, my kids own homes twice the size of my fifteen hundred foot. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >> >> tw One thing for sure a faggot, coward, you would never have any offspring. God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ > You sure the kids are yours? I find that doubtful. You don't have any balls, > mr wanna be tough guy. SignaturePosted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com Wrong again Bill Boy. I have grad kids. Is that all you can bring is one word insults? As I said in the other thread, you are a waste of my time. It is no wonder everybody thinks that you suck. You really do. > One thing for sure a faggot, coward, you would never have any > offspring. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > balls, >> mr wanna be tough guy. Bullsh*t liar! Show us a picture, until then you're just faggot, too afraid of it's own shadow to give us an address, all you can do is spam like the other worthless anonymous cowards. God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ > Wrong again Bill Boy. I have grad kids. SignaturePosted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com On Thu, 21 Jun 2007 15:46:34 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III" <billhughes@cox.net> Amazingly Replied without Prejudice below: You do the same childish bullshit on every new person you start with, Name Address State DD214 Pictures You are the worthless Coward. :> Bullsh*t liar! Show us a picture, until then you're just faggot, too :>afraid of it's own shadow to give us an address, all you can do is spam like [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] :>"Roy" <Roy@home.net> wrote in message news:f5dkbp01glc@news3.newsguy.com... :>> Wrong again Bill Boy. I have grad kids. L.W.(Bill) Hughes III replied in message 450E4BED.E758656A@cox.net: Like, you know you've ever sucked a sweater dick than mine? God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com There you go again, the little jealous, REALLY JEALOUS, over the fact that I once own a '37 Lasalle, ranting over my documents, possessions, successes, manliness, Super Southern California surfing body, family, and name. What a jealous little draft dodging senile coward from Navarre, Florida, that of course, doesn't have a DD214, it had to have served our country for that. Who's only way to get attention is to make a fool of its self, with its goat obsession/fetish, where it writes via remailers, to no one's surprise. Like when the other kids laughed at its attempt to use foul language in elementary school play grounds, but its just gibberish. Too senile to remember what he last wrote, like the rest of Florida. You remind me of a little rat dog, like a Mexican Chiwawa with its senseless barking it's rabid head off, me too, me too. And is too afraid to use your name, address, or even sign your statement as any man would, totally worthless! Posted pornography at: news:0u7g43dkje4pdkqi07hl66s8kpifo564k1@4ax.com As a member of the moral majority I know what porn is when I see it! But now worth the time to forward this low life to: abuse@mchsi.com, fraud@mchsi.com, abuse@4AX.COM, abuse@aioe.org, abuse@cox.net, abuse@teranews.com for forgery. That's because they fail on every account, like you, therefore: a coward like you. God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ > You do the same childish bullshit on every new person you start with, > Name [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Pictures > You are the worthless Coward. SignaturePosted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com On Thu, 21 Jun 2007 21:41:46 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III" <billhughes@cox.net> Amazingly Replied without Prejudice below: You're really an ignorant f.ck! I hear you've been passing those help factors on how to f.ck up a Jeep in one easy lesson. Well you screw everything else up, may as well help your friends to the junk yard. Pirated Software & Troll Of course I was trolling when I wrote those words. "L.W.(Troll Boy) Hughes III" You know I've never lied. And I don't use foul language, as that and cross posting are how I've close many of these anonymous coward's IPs. God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ I saw my Doctor using a recorder, and asked about the program, Dragon Naturally Speaking and he gave me a copy, it works as advertised, a novelty that gets old. God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ I have Auto Cad, too. BFD. God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ They were bought and pay for, over four thousand for my Auto Cad, just not by me. God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ Fraudulent Tax Reporting My bills of sales are boxed in the year they were entered into my tax receipts, It would take hours to go though this year's receipts, let alone going back ten years. Of course you never making enough to pay taxes, you wouldn't know about that. God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ He calls upon the Lord, who hears him not: You know I can relate to Jesus, as I've only done good, yet these little low lifes persist in persecuting me. Pray for them as they know not what they do. God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ LIAR We don't take wimps like you. Some of our training: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-801130429841205822&q=machine+gun&hl=en God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ It's not required, it's just fun to shoot seven hundred and fifty bucks a minute. I'd ask what you train with, but you being a felon, you may not own a firearm, nor vote. God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ But we talked. Jesus and me, and we decided to make this group a crusade, and spread the holy word of our Father. God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ Like Jesus, I write only the truth. God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ I'm happy living my life, for my Lord, Jesus. You can hang with the perverts for all I care. God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ Wrong Again Fool! That means you're inbred Cajun. I have no french in my ancestry: http://www.genealogy.com/users/h/u/g/Llewellyn-W-Hughes-iii/TREE/0004tree.html God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0 mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ Can't Spell That is a fact, I'm never wrong, except in spelling and grammar which have never been important to me. God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0 mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ Is a Homo I am a homosexual. period! God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ L.W.(Bill) Hughes III replied in message 450E4BED.E758656A@cox.net: Like, you know you've ever sucked a sweater dick than mine? God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com Bigot My parent taught me to be truthful and to take responsibility for myself and family. I may be a bigot as I hate Japanese products. God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0 mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ :> There you go again, the little jealous, REALLY JEALOUS, over the fact :>that I once own a '37 Lasalle, ranting over my documents, possessions, [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] :>> Pictures :>> You are the worthless Coward. L.W.(Bill) Hughes III replied in message 450E4BED.E758656A@cox.net: Like, you know you've ever sucked a sweater dick than mine? God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com There you go again, the little jealous, REALLY JEALOUS, over the fact that I once own a '37 Lasalle, ranting over my documents, possessions, successes, manliness, Super Southern California surfing body, family, and name. What a jealous little draft dodging senile coward from Navarre, Florida, that of course, doesn't have a DD214, it had to have served our country for that. Who's only way to get attention is to make a fool of its self, with its goat obsession/fetish, where it writes via remailers, to no one's surprise. Like when the other kids laughed at its attempt to use foul language in elementary school play grounds, but its just gibberish. Too senile to remember what he last wrote, like the rest of Florida. You remind me of a little rat dog, like a Mexican Chiwawa with its senseless barking it's rabid head off, me too, me too. And is too afraid to use your name, address, or even sign your statement as any man would, totally worthless! Posted pornography at: news:0u7g43dkje4pdkqi07hl66s8kpifo564k1@4ax.com As a member of the moral majority I know what porn is when I see it! But now worth the time to forward this low life to: abuse@mchsi.com, fraud@mchsi.com, abuse@4AX.COM, abuse@aioe.org, abuse@cox.net, abuse@teranews.com for forgery. God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ ><snip queer fantasies over my body, and the jealous senile babbling over my accomplishments and conquests> SignaturePosted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com On Fri, 22 Jun 2007 00:47:24 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III" <billhughes@cox.net> Amazingly Replied without Prejudice below: Pirated Software & Troll Of course I was trolling when I wrote those words. "L.W.(Troll Boy) Hughes III" You know I've never lied. And I don't use foul language, as that and cross posting are how I've close many of these anonymous coward's IPs. God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ I saw my Doctor using a recorder, and asked about the program, Dragon Naturally Speaking and he gave me a copy, it works as advertised, a novelty that gets old. God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ I have Auto Cad, too. BFD. God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ They were bought and pay for, over four thousand for my Auto Cad, just not by me. God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ Fraudulent Tax Reporting My bills of sales are boxed in the year they were entered into my tax receipts, It would take hours to go though this year's receipts, let alone going back ten years. Of course you never making enough to pay taxes, you wouldn't know about that. God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ He calls upon the Lord, who hears him not: You know I can relate to Jesus, as I've only done good, yet these little low lifes persist in persecuting me. Pray for them as they know not what they do. God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ LIAR We don't take wimps like you. Some of our training: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-801130429841205822&q=machine+gun&hl=en God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ It's not required, it's just fun to shoot seven hundred and fifty bucks a minute. I'd ask what you train with, but you being a felon, you may not own a firearm, nor vote. God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ But we talked. Jesus and me, and we decided to make this group a crusade, and spread the holy word of our Father. God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ Like Jesus, I write only the truth. God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ I'm happy living my life, for my Lord, Jesus. You can hang with the perverts for all I care. God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ Wrong Again Fool! That means you're inbred Cajun. I have no french in my ancestry: http://www.genealogy.com/users/h/u/g/Llewellyn-W-Hughes-iii/TREE/0004tree.html God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0 mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ Can't Spell That is a fact, I'm never wrong, except in spelling and grammar which have never been important to me. God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0 mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ Is a Homo I am a homosexual. period! God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ L.W.(Bill) Hughes III replied in message 450E4BED.E758656A@cox.net: Like, you know you've ever sucked a sweater dick than mine? God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com Bigot My parent taught me to be truthful and to take responsibility for myself and family. I may be a bigot as I hate Japanese products. God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0 mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ :> There you go again, the little jealous, REALLY JEALOUS, over the fact :>that I once own a '37 Lasalle, ranting over my documents, possessions, [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] :>><snip queer fantasies over my body, and the jealous senile babbling over my :>accomplishments and conquests> L.W.(Bill) Hughes III replied in message 450E4BED.E758656A@cox.net: Like, you know you've ever sucked a sweater dick than mine? God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com There you go again, the little jealous, REALLY JEALOUS, over the fact that I once own a '37 Lasalle, ranting over my documents, possessions, successes, manliness, Super Southern California surfing body, family, and name. What a jealous little draft dodging senile coward from Navarre, Florida, that of course, doesn't have a DD214, it had to have served our country for that. Who's only way to get attention is to make a fool of its self, with its goat obsession/fetish, where it writes via remailers, to no one's surprise. Like when the other kids laughed at its attempt to use foul language in elementary school play grounds, but its just gibberish. Too senile to remember what he last wrote, like the rest of Florida. You remind me of a little rat dog, like a Mexican Chiwawa with its senseless barking it's rabid head off, me too, me too. And is too afraid to use your name, address, or even sign your statement as any man would, totally worthless! Posted pornography at: news:0u7g43dkje4pdkqi07hl66s8kpifo564k1@4ax.com As a member of the moral majority I know what porn is when I see it! But now worth the time to forward this low life to: abuse@mchsi.com, fraud@mchsi.com, abuse@4AX.COM, abuse@aioe.org, abuse@cox.net, abuse@teranews.com for forgery. God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ ><snip queer fantasies over my body, and the jealous senile babbling over my accomplishments and conquests> SignaturePosted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com On Fri, 22 Jun 2007 10:43:45 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III" <billhughes@cox.net> Amazingly Replied without Prejudice below: Pirated Software & Troll Of course I was trolling when I wrote those words. "L.W.(Troll Boy) Hughes III" You know I've never lied. And I don't use foul language, as that and cross posting are how I've close many of these anonymous coward's IPs. God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ I saw my Doctor using a recorder, and asked about the program, Dragon Naturally Speaking and he gave me a copy, it works as advertised, a novelty that gets old. God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ I have Auto Cad, too. BFD. God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ They were bought and pay for, over four thousand for my Auto Cad, just not by me. God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ Fraudulent Tax Reporting My bills of sales are boxed in the year they were entered into my tax receipts, It would take hours to go though this year's receipts, let alone going back ten years. Of course you never making enough to pay taxes, you wouldn't know about that. God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ He calls upon the Lord, who hears him not: You know I can relate to Jesus, as I've only done good, yet these little low lifes persist in persecuting me. Pray for them as they know not what they do. God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ LIAR We don't take wimps like you. Some of our training: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-801130429841205822&q=machine+gun&hl=en God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ It's not required, it's just fun to shoot seven hundred and fifty bucks a minute. I'd ask what you train with, but you being a felon, you may not own a firearm, nor vote. God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ But we talked. Jesus and me, and we decided to make this group a crusade, and spread the holy word of our Father. God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ Like Jesus, I write only the truth. God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ I'm happy living my life, for my Lord, Jesus. You can hang with the perverts for all I care. God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ Wrong Again Fool! That means you're inbred Cajun. I have no french in my ancestry: http://www.genealogy.com/users/h/u/g/Llewellyn-W-Hughes-iii/TREE/0004tree.html God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0 mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ Can't Spell That is a fact, I'm never wrong, except in spelling and grammar which have never been important to me. God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0 mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ Is a Homo I am a homosexual. period! God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ L.W.(Bill) Hughes III replied in message 450E4BED.E758656A@cox.net: Like, you know you've ever sucked a sweater dick than mine? God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com Bigot My parent taught me to be truthful and to take responsibility for myself and family. I may be a bigot as I hate Japanese products. God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0 mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ :> There you go again, the little jealous, REALLY JEALOUS, over the fact :>that I once own a '37 Lasalle, ranting over my documents, possessions, [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] :>><snip queer fantasies over my body, and the jealous senile babbling over my :>accomplishments and conquests> L.W.(Bill) Hughes III replied in message 450E4BED.E758656A@cox.net: Like, you know you've ever sucked a sweater dick than mine? God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com Forgery forwarded to: abuse@mchsi.com, fraud@mchsi.com, abuse@4AX.COM, abuse@aioe.org, abuse@cox.net, abuse@teranews.com Path: free.teranews.com!sam.nntpserver.com!be2.nntpserver.com!10.1.1.100.MISMATCH! nntpserver.com!zeus.nntpserver.com!newspeer1.nwr.nac.net!border2.nntp.dca.gi ganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!wns13feed!worldne t.att.net!attbi_s22.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail From: 24Bit®<standing@the.exit> Newsgroups: rec.autos.makers.jeep+willys Subject: Re: Off Topic Re: General Jeep Questions -Now SnoMan the Stalker Organization: None Reply-To: Management@Lunch Message-ID: <m87o735iv7g6v37jcq04i1hkeccom9b9ib@4ax.com> References: <4679896e$0$21956$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> <f5cmav0iq1@news3.newsguy.com> <4679e4ca$0$16357$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> <f5dkbp01glc@news3.newsguy.com> <467af47a$0$16282$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> <pdjm73976tqgeo2v7rulvc17mr7oqgoq7s@4ax.com> <467b47bd$0$16309$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> <d4um73h0fb5c70lb0lr4i788p93otp9rjk@4ax.com> <467b7341$0$16371$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> <olcn73lfjok6en9g8f986m0ic8h3u89d24@4ax.com> <467bff0b$0$16409$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 4.2/32.1118 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Lines: 148 X-Complaints-To: abuse@mchsi.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 19:04:34 GMT Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 19:04:34 GMT X-Original-Bytes: 7380 SignaturePosted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com On Fri, 22 Jun 2007 12:59:15 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III" <billhughes@cox.net> Amazingly Replied without Prejudice below: Pirated Software & Troll Of course I was trolling when I wrote those words. "L.W.(Troll Boy) Hughes III" You know I've never lied. And I don't use foul language, as that and cross posting are how I've close many of these anonymous coward's IPs. God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ I saw my Doctor using a recorder, and asked about the program, Dragon Naturally Speaking and he gave me a copy, it works as advertised, a novelty that gets old. God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ I have Auto Cad, too. BFD. God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ They were bought and pay for, over four thousand for my Auto Cad, just not by me. God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ Fraudulent Tax Reporting My bills of sales are boxed in the year they were entered into my tax receipts, It would take hours to go though this year's receipts, let alone going back ten years. Of course you never making enough to pay taxes, you wouldn't know about that. God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ He calls upon the Lord, who hears him not: You know I can relate to Jesus, as I've only done good, yet these little low lifes persist in persecuting me. Pray for them as they know not what they do. God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ LIAR We don't take wimps like you. Some of our training: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-801130429841205822&q=machine+gun&hl=en God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ It's not required, it's just fun to shoot seven hundred and fifty bucks a minute. I'd ask what you train with, but you being a felon, you may not own a firearm, nor vote. God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ But we talked. Jesus and me, and we decided to make this group a crusade, and spread the holy word of our Father. God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ Like Jesus, I write only the truth. God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ I'm happy living my life, for my Lord, Jesus. You can hang with the perverts for all I care. God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ Wrong Again Fool! That means you're inbred Cajun. I have no french in my ancestry: http://www.genealogy.com/users/h/u/g/Llewellyn-W-Hughes-iii/TREE/0004tree.html God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0 mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ Can't Spell That is a fact, I'm never wrong, except in spelling and grammar which have never been important to me. God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0 mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ & |
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