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Car Forum / Jeep / June 2007This group is out of control
When I subscribed to this group back in January, it was a good place for information. As of late, it has turned into something else. I know there are a lot of loyal subscribers who are willing to spend their time handing out valuable knowledge to others that are in need of assistance. Yet there are some who just seem intent on destroying the group and driving readers away. To them, I say congratulations, you have succeeded. To those that wish to stick with the group in the hope that it comes back under control, I say best of luck. To everyone else that has helped me out with their feedback in the past, I say thank you. In the mean time, I'm looking for another group. Tim J. > When I subscribed to this group back in January, it was a good place > for information. As of late, it has turned into something else. I [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Tim J. Yep, I've been around here for close to 10 years. I've never seen the NG this bad. I'd drop in other NGs during that time and always wondered why the members put up with so much posted crap while we didn't have to in this group. Well, now we have to...or not. I unsubscribed a while back for months. I dropped back in and everything seemed OK. Boy, was I wrong. What a wasteland. tw  SignaturePLEASE REMOVE THE "OBVIOUS" TO REPLY. > Yep, I've been around here for close to 10 years. I've never seen > the NG this bad. I'd drop in other NGs during that time and always [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > What a wasteland. Sorry I can't help, I've no problems at all with the group and I'd be happy to show you how I do it, but I see you're running Mozilla and you'd have to get a newsreader that allows scoring as well as killfiling in order to eliminate all the trolls and troll responses. News readers that support scoring are Xnews (that's what I use), 40tude Dialog, Pan (maybe, I know the old version does, not sure about the new version) and SLRN. The last two are more popular with Linux although there is a pretty good Windows port of the old Pan and a 32 bit windows version of SLRN. If you do think about changing newsreaders, scoring help is readily available at news.software.readers along with any other help you might need. SignatureXS11E, Killing all posts from Google Groups The Usenet Improvement Project: http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html >>Yep, I've been around here for close to 10 years. I've never seen >>the NG this bad. I'd drop in other NGs during that time and always [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > available at news.software.readers along with any other help you might > need. Just never had to worry about it before. I guess it's time to step up. tw SignaturePLEASE REMOVE THE "OBVIOUS" TO REPLY. > Just never had to worry about it before. I guess it's time to step > up. I'm afraid so, otherwise the only cure is to leave the group as I did after being here only a few months. That's how newsgroups die, unfortunately. I decided no trolls were going to drive me away from a newsgroup that contained information I needed so I'm back with a very modified scorefile and the trolls, along with the idiots who respond to them, are gone. SignatureXS11E, Killing all posts from Google Groups The Usenet Improvement Project: http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html >> Just never had to worry about it before. I guess it's time to step >> up. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > modified scorefile and the trolls, along with the idiots who respond > to them, are gone. Those stuck with doze as an OS should look to Hamster or Hamster Playground. Very good local spool and filter, but bandwidth intensive for binary groups. nFilter is still out there and it's good for most problems. Of course there is Gravity and other news readers out there too. SignatureDougW >>> Just never had to worry about it before. I guess it's time to step >>> up. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Of course there is Gravity and other news readers out there too. Hamster is definitely my fan favorite. It pre-filters for my XNews client and it does so with any info in the headers. The only problem I have is finding out how to score on conditions like responders in threads of known trolls and/or K00ks. But the caveat with that is you'll never see when someone is getting snowed on incorrect information and you would be there to stop that but can't because you have the bozo with the mis-information blocked from being seen. For instance, and Doug knows this bozo - we have one poster in Nanae who constantly morphs and spews his hatred of a certain method. I have all that m0r0nis's posts pretty much blocked - and any of his respondents as well. and now back into lurking..... > Hamster is definitely my fan favorite. It pre-filters for my > XNews client and it does so with any info in the headers. So will Xnew's score file w/o using Hamster. Besides, Hamster requires that you feed the little critter and clean it's cage. <GD&R> Sorry, couldn't help myself... > The only problem I have is finding out how to score on conditions > like responders in threads of known trolls and/or K00ks. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > stop that but can't because you have the bozo with the > mis-information blocked from being seen. But you can see replies to the bozo if you want. I score replies to killed threads or posters as -5000 so they show up but greyed out. I can read them if I want to. If you want help with scoring in Hamster or Xnews, go to news.software.readers and ask, there's some pretty expert people there. SignatureXS11E, Killing all posts from Google Groups The Usenet Improvement Project: http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html >>Just never had to worry about it before. I guess it's time to step >>up. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > modified scorefile and the trolls, along with the idiots who respond to > them, are gone. Yep, I agree with you and that's why I've left a time or two. Problem is, when the guys involved in bringing the NG down ARE primary members it kind of cuts your options. Like others, I appreciate the positive contributions by Bill and Mike, but these are quickly getting outweighed by other activities. I'm still hoping for a return to normalcy. tw SignaturePLEASE REMOVE THE "OBVIOUS" TO REPLY. Has anyone thought of starting a moderated BB via vBulletin and having us main members a part of it so that we can keep the spamming down to a minimum? I would definitely join if it were the same people as on here and would vote for Mike as one of the moderators. Just an idea ... > Yep, I agree with you and that's why I've left a time or two. Problem > is, when the guys involved in bringing the NG down ARE primary members [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > tw Start one, or join the ones already established: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22jeep++forums%22&btnG=Search God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ > Has anyone thought of starting a moderated BB via vBulletin and having us > main members a part of it so that we can keep the spamming down to a > minimum? I would definitely join if it were the same people as on here and > would vote for Mike as one of the moderators. Just an idea ... SignaturePosted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 18:10:21 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III" <billhughes@cox.net> Amazingly Replied without Prejudice below: Hey, Fag Boy, how ya going to cover this one up, message ID and all! You think they'll believe you, not a chance! BWAHAHAAHAHHAAHHAAHHHAAHAHAA!!! L.W.(Bill) Hughes III replied in message 450E4BED.E758656A@cox.net: Like, you know you've never sucked a sweater dick than mine? God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com There you go again, the little jealous, REALLY JEALOUS, over the fact that I once own a '37 Lasalle, ranting over my documents, possessions, successes, manliness and super Southern California surfing body. What a jealous little draft dodging senile coward from Navarre, Florida, that of course, doesn't have a DD214, it had to have served our country for that. Who's only way to get attention is to make a fool of its self, with its goat obsession/fetish, where it writes via remailers, to no one's surprise. Like when the other kids laughed at its attempt to use foul language in elementary school play grounds, but its just gibberish. Too senile to remember what he last wrote, like the rest of Florida. You remind me of a little rat dog, like a Mexican Chiwawa with its senseless barking it's rabid head off, me too, me too. And is too afraid to use your name, address, or even sign your statement as any man would, totally worthless! Posted pornography at: news:0u7g43dkje4pdkqi07hl66s8kpifo564k1@4ax.com As a member of the moral majority I know what porn is when I see it! But now worth the time to forward this low life to: abuse@mchsi.com, fraud@mchsi.com, abuse@4AX.COM, abuse@aioe.org, abuse@cox.net, abuse@teranews.com for forgery. God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ ><snip queer fantasies over my body, and the jealous senile babbling over my accomplishments and conquests> SignaturePosted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com > I know what porn is when I see it! "L.W.(Bill) Hughes III replied in message 450E4BED.E758656A@cox.net: Like, you know you've never sucked a sweater dick than mine? God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com" This from the biggest loser of them all! The jealous, really jealous, I can't believe how jealous this little draft dodging coward schizophrenic psychopath liar hiding in Vancouver via S0106000ea6ba70e7.vn.shawcable.net 24.86.24.251 intrepidator@shaw.ca who's only way to get attention is to make a fool of it's self. With an obsession with perverts and goats, where it writes via remailers, and cross posts to other perverts to no one's surprise. With extreme jealous ranting over my documents, possessions, successes, manliness and super Southern California surfing body, beard, and loving family. Committing forgery over many of them proving I'm a responsible American man. You remind me of a little rat dog, like a Mexican Chiwawa with it's senseless barking, me too, me too. You're even more senile than I first thought. And the poor thing, you're too girlie to take responsibility for yourself again, by signing your statement like a man. That really thinks the group's members are so stupid not to know it's the same coward, posting over and over again using schizophrenic psychopath forged up names??????? You're not worth any more time when a cut and paste this same paragraph it fits so well! But, now worth a forwarding to: internet.help@shaw.ca, security@shaw.ca, abuse@shaw.ca, internet.abuse@sjrb.ca, abuse@aioe.org, abuse@cox.net God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ ><snip queer fantasies over goats and my body, and the jealous senile babbling over my accomplishments, conquests, family, and name.> SignaturePosted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com >> I know what porn is when I see it! > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O > mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com" Another example of Hughes' inability to spell. It's not sweater dick, Bill. It's sweatier dick. You are a sweaty dick. Craig There you go again, the jealous, really jealous little coward from 534 San Pedro Cove, San Rafael, CA 94901 415-453-4357, who's only way to get attention is to make a fool of it's self. With this fagot obsession/fetish you have. Like when the other kids laughed at it's attempt to use foul language in elementary school play grounds, but just gibberish. Like a little rat dog Mexican Chiwawa barking it's rabid head off, me too, me too. God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ ><snip queer fantasies about my body> SignaturePosted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 13:29:14 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III" <billhughes@cox.net> Amazingly Replied without Prejudice below: Pirated Software & Troll Of course I was trolling when I wrote those words. "L.W.(Troll Boy) Hughes III" You know I've never lied. And I don't use foul language, as that and cross posting are how I've close many of these anonymous coward's IPs. God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ I saw my Doctor using a recorder, and asked about the program, Dragon Naturally Speaking and he gave me a copy, it works as advertised, a novelty that gets old. God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ I have Auto Cad, too. BFD. God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ They were bought and pay for, over four thousand for my Auto Cad, just not by me. God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ Fraudulent Tax Reporting My bills of sales are boxed in the year they were entered into my tax receipts, It would take hours to go though this year's receipts, let alone going back ten years. Of course you never making enough to pay taxes, you wouldn't know about that. God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ He calls upon the Lord, who hears him not: You know I can relate to Jesus, as I've only done good, yet these little low lifes persist in persecuting me. Pray for them as they know not what they do. God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ LIAR We don't take wimps like you. Some of our training: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-801130429841205822&q=machine+gun&hl=en God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ It's not required, it's just fun to shoot seven hundred and fifty bucks a minute. I'd ask what you train with, but you being a felon, you may not own a firearm, nor vote. God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ But we talked. Jesus and me, and we decided to make this group a crusade, and spread the holy word of our Father. God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ Like Jesus, I write only the truth. God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ I'm happy living my life, for my Lord, Jesus. You can hang with the perverts for all I care. God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ Wrong Again Fool! That means you're inbred Cajun. I have no french in my ancestry: http://www.genealogy.com/users/h/u/g/Llewellyn-W-Hughes-iii/TREE/0004tree.html God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0 mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ Can't Spell That is a fact, I'm never wrong, except in spelling and grammar which have never been important to me. God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0 mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ Is a Homo I am a homosexual. period! God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ L.W.(Bill) Hughes III replied in message 450E4BED.E758656A@cox.net: Like, you know you've ever sucked a sweater dick than mine? God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com Bigot My parent taught me to be truthful and to take responsibility for myself and family. I may be a bigot as I hate Japanese products. God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0 mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ :> There you go again, the little jealous, REALLY JEALOUS, over the fact :>that I once own a '37 Lasalle, ranting over my documents, possessions, [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] :>><snip queer fantasies over my body, and the jealous senile babbling over my :>accomplishments and conquests> There you go again, the little jealous, REALLY JEALOUS, over the fact that I once own a '37 Lasalle, ranting over my documents, possessions, successes, manliness, Super Southern California surfing body, family, and name. What a jealous little draft dodging senile coward from Navarre, Florida, that of course, doesn't have a DD214, it had to have served our country for that. Who's only way to get attention is to make a fool of its self, with its goat obsession/fetish, where it writes via remailers, to no one's surprise. Like when the other kids laughed at its attempt to use foul language in elementary school play grounds, but its just gibberish. Too senile to remember what he last wrote, like the rest of Florida. You remind me of a little rat dog, like a Mexican Chiwawa with its senseless barking it's rabid head off, me too, me too. And is too afraid to use your name, address, or even sign your statement as any man would, totally worthless! Posted pornography at: news:0u7g43dkje4pdkqi07hl66s8kpifo564k1@4ax.com As a member of the moral majority I know what porn is when I see it! But now worth the time to forward this low life to: abuse@mchsi.com, fraud@mchsi.com, abuse@4AX.COM, abuse@aioe.org, abuse@cox.net, abuse@teranews.com for forgery. God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ ><snip queer fantasies over goats and my body, and the jealous senile babbling over my accomplishments, conquests, family, and name.> SignaturePosted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com > Has anyone thought of starting a moderated BB via vBulletin and > having us main members a part of it so that we can keep the > spamming down to a minimum? It's VERY easy to start a moderated group on Yahoo or Google, just log on to either one (you'll have to create an account if you don't have one) select "groups" and follow directions to start a group. Then you come back here, announce the formation of the group, invite people to apply to join and you'll probably want to add maybe two more moderators. The BIG problem is that someone has to want to spend the necessary time to moderate the group. SignatureXS11E, Killing all posts from Google Groups The Usenet Improvement Project: http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html >>Has anyone thought of starting a moderated BB via vBulletin and >>having us main members a part of it so that we can keep the [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > The BIG problem is that someone has to want to spend the necessary time > to moderate the group. That, and someone might report you for OT posting, or something of that nature. ;) I know some of the guys got fed up and went to forums which can be moderated and much more civilized. I guess I'm just sentimental. tw SignaturePLEASE REMOVE THE "OBVIOUS" TO REPLY. That, and someone might report you for OT posting, or something of that nature. ;) I know some of the guys got fed up and went to forums which can be moderated and much more civilized. I guess I'm just sentimental. tw Trouble is that sometimes the OT posts are pretty interesting too. Kind of like sitting around the camp fire and shooting the bull with a group of friends. Personally, I like this particular format because I can A) Read it with OE while I'm doing my email and so on B) Choose who I want to see and who I don't. A yahoo type group has no appeal to me personally. That's just me though, in this case I am sure that I am the exception. Kate twaldron <twaldron@OBVIOUSaol.com> wrote: > Just never had to worry about it before. I guess it's time to step > up. I'm afraid so, otherwise the only cure is to leave the group as I did after being here only a few months. That's how newsgroups die, unfortunately. I decided no trolls were going to drive me away from a newsgroup that contained information I needed so I'm back with a very modified scorefile and the trolls, along with the idiots who respond to them, are gone. SignatureXS11E, Killing all posts from Google Groups The Usenet Improvement Project: http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html That's what I did too... Kate 2O|||||||O6 Rubicon > > When I subscribed to this group back in January, it was a good place > > for information. As of late, it has turned into something else. I [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > tw Ditto - still loitering about, just once a week instead of every day.... Dave Milne, Scotland '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ This is Usenet. It is just part of the free service you get. If you don't like it find a moderated or otherwise restricted bulletin board. Honestly, I am not even paying attention to most of Bill and his pals. Saludos cordiales, Earle > When I subscribed to this group back in January, it was a good place > for information. As of late, it has turned into something else. I [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Tim J. SignaturePosted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com > When I subscribed to this group back in January, it was a good place > for information. As of late, it has turned into something else. I [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Tim J. Although I agree it is way out of control. However, this "is" usenet. It is not moderated, which in a way is great as there are no delays in posts arriving quickly. Get yourself a real news reader, and add all the bozos to the killfile list and you should be good to go. > Yet there are some who just seem intent on destroying > the group and driving readers away. You could say that about just about any newsgroup anytime in Usenet's 20- odd year history. What were you expecting? >>Yet there are some who just seem intent on destroying >>the group and driving readers away. > > You could say that about just about any newsgroup anytime in Usenet's 20- > odd year history. What were you expecting? Civility among Jeepers? tw SignaturePLEASE REMOVE THE "OBVIOUS" TO REPLY. > When I subscribed to this group back in January, it was a good place > for information. As of late, it has turned into something else. I [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Tim J. This is still a great group. I don?t have any filters but still get lots of help and good information here, thanks to the very experienced members. It is mainly just a matter of ignoring the noise. > When I subscribed to this group back in January, it was a good place > for information. As of late, it has turned into something else. I [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Tim J. I just came here and will give it an evaluation chance. However I'm curious why subscribe? I just came directly here using a trusty news reader. > I just came here and will give it an evaluation chance. > However I'm curious why subscribe? > I just came directly here using a trusty news reader. Yes, that's subscribing. It's not like you pay anything. tw SignaturePLEASE REMOVE THE "OBVIOUS" TO REPLY. who proclaimed: >>When I subscribed to this group back in January, it was a good place >>for information. As of late, it has turned into something else. I [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > However I'm curious why subscribe? > I just came directly here using a trusty news reader. Once you killfile Bill Hughes and his cast of idiots, there is some fairly decent information tossed around amongst the typical chitter chatter that keeps the group from becoming sterile. They are your cast of idiots, that YOU allow to post here. We get the group we deserve. God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ > Once you killfile Bill Hughes and his cast of idiots, there is some > fairly decent information tossed around amongst the typical chitter > chatter that keeps the group from becoming sterile. SignaturePosted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com Good luck! This isnt bad compared to many groups. Although its worse than it was in the past. I just use the delete key a whole lot. -jenn >>When I subscribed to this group back in January, it was a good place >>for information. As of late, it has turned into something else. I [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >> >>Tim J. |
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