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Nathan W. Collier - 24 Jun 2007 03:20 GMT
i just got back from a sunny southern california vacation
http://utilityoffroad.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=12913

....i know a lot of you live in california and i certainly mean no offense
when i say HOLY SMOKES i dont see how you guys do it every day.  the weather
was beautiful....matched only by the beautiful scenery (absolutely BEAUTIFUL
mountains you guys have!)....but DANG you guys have traffic.  rush hour
chicago traffic wasnt even comparable to southern california I-5.  it took
nearly 5 hours to go from LA to san diego (just over 100 miles) on the
interstate and that was on a saturday.  with the weather and the scenery i
can see why you would want to live there, but my hat is off to anyone who
can take that traffic day in and day out.

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Stupendous Man - 24 Jun 2007 04:19 GMT
> ....i know a lot of you live in california and i certainly mean no offense
> when i say HOLY SMOKES i dont see how you guys do it every day.

I don't. I live in the Sierra's, about 50 miles south of the Rubicon trail.
I hate the cities, and rarely drive my jeep below 2000 Ft.
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Earle Horton - 24 Jun 2007 04:51 GMT
> > ....i know a lot of you live in california and i certainly mean no
> > offense when i say HOLY SMOKES i dont see how you guys
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> trail.
> I hate the cities, and rarely drive my jeep below 2000 Ft.
About the only thing cities are good for, is manufacturing.  Picture
yourself trying to make a microwave oven from raw materials.  Here in
Colorado we have cities clear up to 10,000 feet.  The only traffic jam we
have is on the fourth of July, when all the flatlanders come up to Silverton
to see the volunteers fire department's show.

Saludos cordiales,

Earle

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Lon - 24 Jun 2007 15:03 GMT
Earle Horton proclaimed:

>>>....i know a lot of you live in california and i certainly mean no
>>>offense when i say HOLY SMOKES i dont see how you guys
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> have is on the fourth of July, when all the flatlanders come up to Silverton
> to see the volunteers fire department's show.

I dunno, I actually had to wait for 7 whole cars to go by the other day
before I could make a left on Hover street.   That may not be a traffic
jam, but it possibly qualifies as traffic jelly.
noneofyourbusiness - 24 Jun 2007 04:38 GMT
>i just got back from a sunny southern california vacation
>http://utilityoffroad.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=12913
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>can see why you would want to live there, but my hat is off to anyone who
>can take that traffic day in and day out.

It's usually a 3.5 hours drive when I go to TJ...
Typical work commutes are lucky to average 20 MPH at peak rush hour :/

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L.W. (Bill) Hughes III - 24 Jun 2007 07:48 GMT
Hi Sandman,
   I wish you would have given me a shout.
   Actually, these months have less tourists, because the warmer inland
sucks the fog in so it's "June Gloom" and "May Gray" and we are filled with
Zonians trying to escape their heat. It's the winter time when traffic comes
to a halt with the snow birds, for our one hundred percent clear sun shinny
days.
       God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
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> i just got back from a sunny southern california vacation
> http://utilityoffroad.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=12913
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> can see why you would want to live there, but my hat is off to anyone who
> can take that traffic day in and day out.

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Nathan W. Collier - 24 Jun 2007 19:26 GMT
> Hi Sandman,
>    I wish you would have given me a shout.

?  i thought you were in northern california?

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Jeff Strickland - 24 Jun 2007 19:44 GMT
>> Hi Sandman,
>>    I wish you would have given me a shout.
>
> ?  i thought you were in northern california?

You had to drive past Bill's house to get to SD from LA. Depending on the
route you took leaving SD, you had to pass my house to get to where you live
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Will Honea - 25 Jun 2007 04:12 GMT
> Hi Sandman,
> I wish you would have given me a shout.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> traffic comes to a halt with the snow birds, for our one hundred percent
> clear sun shinny days.

I hope the weather clears by the Fourth - the wife and I are flying out to
spend a week with one of her cousins.  She lives up on the hill overlooking
I5 just above Sea World in Pointa Loma.

My onlt extended experience with San Diego was a TDY stint where I spent
most of a June sitting on a destroyer tied up in San Diego - felt like I
was freezing most of the time. June Gloom indeed!

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L.W. (Bill) Hughes III - 25 Jun 2007 04:59 GMT
Ask her if she's ever seen the fireworks without going at least fifteen
miles east?
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> I hope the weather clears by the Fourth - the wife and I are flying out to
> spend a week with one of her cousins.  She lives up on the hill overlooking
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> most of a June sitting on a destroyer tied up in San Diego - felt like I
> was freezing most of the time. June Gloom indeed!

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Jeff Strickland - 25 Jun 2007 05:00 GMT
>> Hi Sandman,
>> I wish you would have given me a shout.
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> most of a June sitting on a destroyer tied up in San Diego - felt like I
> was freezing most of the time. June Gloom indeed!

Will,
Side Trips you can make ...

Temecula Wine Country.
Take I-15 north to Temecula -- 55ish miles -- and exit Ranch California Road
and head east. Wine country is obvious ...

Palomar Observatory
Atop Palomar Mountain. Exit I-15 at Valley Parkway in Escondido and follow
S-6 (Valley Parkway) to the top of the mountain. You will intersect Highway
76 for a while, but then turn off on S-6 again and proceed up the mountain.

Julian
This is an old Gold Mine Town. Today, the gold comes from apples, and the
Bed & Breakfast places. From your sister's house, take I-15 to Scripps
Parkway, head east to Highway 67. turn LEFT onto 67 and follow it through
Ramona where it picks up Highway 78. Follow 78 all of the way to Julian. If
Julian isn't your cup of tea, proceed through Julian and remain on 78 and
drop down the back of the mountain into Anza Borrego.

Each of these are easy Day Trips from San Diego Bay to the inland regions
where the weather is even better than in San Diego. Palomar is very cool if
you like really big telescopes and the pictures they can take. If you have
your Main Squeeze along, I think you can do the Bed & Breakfast in either
Julian or Temecula's Wine Country for a reasonable price. I live in
Temecula, so I don't do the bed and breakfasts there, but I think you can
get bunked down for about $120. Julian should be about the same. Both will
have listings online ...

If you get a chance to go to Petco Park in Downtown and watch a Padres game,
take it. Petco Park is perhaps the jewel of the National Baseball league.
San Francisco has a new ball park that is supposed to rival Petco Park, but
I've not been to it and I know from first hand experience that Petco is very
nice. Downtown San Diego is much different than when you were a squid, I
think you will be pleasantly surprised if you haven't been back since you
busy swabbing the decks.
Will Honea - 25 Jun 2007 09:20 GMT
>>> Hi Sandman,
>>> I wish you would have given me a shout.
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> were a squid, I think you will be pleasantly surprised if you haven't been
> back since you busy swabbing the decks.

Thanks, Jeff, but I'm not a big tourista type.  When we get together, John
and I usually wind up find interesting projects to work on or playing
around big, interesting machines.  He was Chief of Maintainence on the
Midway before he retired so I'm sure that's on out agenda while the girls
$hop.  We'll likely pretty much stay in town.  

If I ever get the chance, I have an old friend who owns a small winery up in
th Napa valley - now that's my kind of tour!

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Jeff Strickland - 25 Jun 2007 16:00 GMT
>>>> Hi Sandman,
>>>> I wish you would have given me a shout.
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> in
> th Napa valley - now that's my kind of tour!

Well, if you get a hankering to escape the June Gloom on the coast, Temecula
Wine Country is an hour away, and by all accounts it competes favorably with
the Napa Valley.
Will Honea - 25 Jun 2007 20:04 GMT
> Well, if you get a hankering to escape the June Gloom on the coast,
> Temecula Wine Country is an hour away, and by all accounts it competes
> favorably with the Napa Valley.

But I don't have a buddy there I can sponge off of!

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Herb Leong - 24 Jun 2007 09:09 GMT
#....i know a lot of you live in california and i certainly mean no offense
#when i say HOLY SMOKES i dont see how you guys do it every day.  the weather
#was beautiful....matched only by the beautiful scenery (absolutely BEAUTIFUL
#mountains you guys have!)....but DANG you guys have traffic.  rush hour
#chicago traffic wasnt even comparable to southern california I-5.  it took
#nearly 5 hours to go from LA to san diego (just over 100 miles) on the
#interstate and that was on a saturday.  with the weather and the scenery i

Only 5 hours?  Lucky so-and-so!  It's taken me up to 8 hours in each
direction with the other bazillion people all making our way to and
from the SD Comic Con.  

/herb
Lon - 24 Jun 2007 15:05 GMT
Herb Leong proclaimed:

> #....i know a lot of you live in california and i certainly mean no offense
> #when i say HOLY SMOKES i dont see how you guys do it every day.  the weather
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> direction with the other bazillion people all making our way to and
> from the SD Comic Con.  

Worst area I can recall is the notorious south bay curve that runs from
down just south of the harbor all the way up to just about by the
airport.   San Francisco bay area complains about the 680/580 junction
or the altamont pass...but all of them put together would disappear as
mere glitches in the mess along the 405 south of los angeles.
Stupendous Man - 24 Jun 2007 17:25 GMT
I have to travel thru LA to San Diego a few times a year. I try to time it
so Southbound I drop from the Grapevine after 8PM, and Northbound leave San
Diego around 4AM, thus avoiding the roughly 4.6 million people who have
nothing better to do during working hours other than drive around in
circles.

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Jeff Strickland - 24 Jun 2007 19:41 GMT
>i just got back from a sunny southern california vacation
>http://utilityoffroad.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=12913
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> the scenery i can see why you would want to live there, but my hat is off
> to anyone who can take that traffic day in and day out.

Put the hat back on, the glare off your forehead is blinding us ...
 
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