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Car Forum / Jeep / July 2007Building a 'new' CJ7
I saw on the Discovery Channel a company out of California building 'new' 1969 Camaros (Unique Performance). They're getting $125,000 for them. They start with a junk from a boneyard, presumably using the VIN and shell. I was thinking (probably a mistake - but...) one could pretty much build a Jeep from the ground up with parts from JC Whitney and others. Is anyone doing this? > I saw on the Discovery Channel a company out of California building 'new' > 1969 Camaros (Unique Performance). They're getting $125,000 for them. They [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Is anyone doing this? I haven't heard of any Jeeps being made yet, although like you say it seems there's enough parts to do so. I did see a company recently doing this with Land Cruiser FJ 40's. Looks like the company may be TLC, www.tlc4x4.com. Look for the new replica fj40. > I saw on the Discovery Channel a company out of California building 'new' > 1969 Camaros (Unique Performance). They're getting $125,000 for them. They [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Is anyone doing this? LOL! Yup, ONE PIECE AT A TIME..... Seriously though, there are companies that were under license from Jeep still making brand new CJ's. Mahindra is one: http://www.mahindra.com/ourbusinesses/automotive_domestic_products_UV_mahindrama jor.htm http://www.mahindra.com/ourbusinesses/automotive_domestic_products_UV_savari.htm http://www.mahindra.com/ourbusinesses/automotive_domestic_products_UV_commander6 05DI.htm And Mitsubishi http://www.film.queensu.ca/cj3B/World/JapanPhotos.html Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile... Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590 (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) > Mahindra is one: > http://www.mahindra.com/ourbusinesses/automotive_domestic_products_UV_mahindrama jor.htm [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > And Mitsubishi > http://www.film.queensu.ca/cj3B/World/JapanPhotos.html These links are what got me thinking about this dumb idea. You probably couldn't import one of these into the US. I doubt they meet safety and emissions standards. But..... If you were to start with a 1978 CJ7, and replace everything, you've essentially got a brand new 1978 CJ7. I remember hearing (a long time ago) that to build a brand new 1973 Ford Pinto one part at a time would cost $14,000. At the time, I think a brand new 1973 Ford Pinto went for arounf $4,000. > I saw on the Discovery Channel a company out of California building 'new' > 1969 Camaros (Unique Performance). They're getting $125,000 for them. They [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Is anyone doing this? This may help you out a little. I didn't bother checking all the dealer sites. http://www.mdjuan.com.ph/locator.php Chris > > I saw on the Discovery Channel a company out of California building 'new' > > 1969 Camaros (Unique Performance). They're getting $125,000 for them. They [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > > Is anyone doing this? Right now not many since convenience and do-it-for-me is king-hence the '69 Camaros for Ferrari prices. When the stock market and consumer credit crashes more will be amenable to this. Kit cars have become nonexistent in the US, for example, but in England they are stilla viable business. The Brits do not allow banks to finance bums and expect to get paid. But it's very possible. Two or three companies make aftermarket frames and several others make aftermarket fiberglass or aluminum bodies. Just buy one of each and add engine, trans, transfer case, axles, driveshafts, wiring harness, springs, steering box, front end parts, brakes, plumbing, fuel tank, and a few hundred little bits and you are in business. If you are a good scrounger it is not necessarily expensive, because you can get all the items used. The key is to do it in a state where you can get a replica or street rod title in the model year of the vehicle it is made to look like or resemble. That way once titled with a state VIN and ID plate you can go to any other state and it is a early model vehicle. >>> I saw on the Discovery Channel a company out of California building >>> 'new' 1969 Camaros (Unique Performance). They're getting $125,000 [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >> >>> Is anyone doing this? > If you are a good scrounger it is not necessarily expensive, because > you can get all the items used. I was thinking this isn't much different from someone doing a frame-off rebuild of a rustbucket. The biggest problem is getting all the nit-noid bolts and parts that most rebuilders reuse. For that much money I'd buy myself a nice used high performance sports car. Like this one. :D And still have enough left for one years insuance. :/ http://www.donlleasing.com/detail-1999-ferrari-360-f1-1075310.html  SignatureDougW > For that much money I'd buy myself a nice used high performance > sports car. Like this one. :D And still have enough left for one > years insuance. :/ > http://www.donlleasing.com/detail-1999-ferrari-360-f1-1075310.html Who would want that? There's no CUP HOLDERS!! <g> SignatureXS11E, Killing all posts from Google Groups The Usenet Improvement Project: http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html > >>> I saw on the Discovery Channel a company out of California building > >>> 'new' 1969 Camaros (Unique Performance). They're getting $125,000 [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > rebuild of a rustbucket. The biggest problem is getting all the > nit-noid bolts and parts that most rebuilders reuse. Most popular restoration projects have available bolt kits. In fact using all new bolts and twiddly bits is the best reason to do something like this. >>>>> I saw on the Discovery Channel a company out of California building >>>>> 'new' 1969 Camaros (Unique Performance). They're getting $125,000 [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > using all new bolts and twiddly bits is the best reason to do > something like this. Keyword "popular", there is no such kit for my Studebaker pickup! But I agree, if such a kit is available for the vehicle your working on by all means buy it, you won't regret it. Jeff DeWitt > Keyword "popular", there is no such kit for my Studebaker pickup! So YOU'RE the guy, huh? I met up with your Studebaker pickup back in 1949 (?) or so. Result = arm broken in two places, broken collar bone and cracked shoulder blade. Next time I play destruction derby with a pickup, I probably shouldn't be on foot? SignatureXS11E, Killing all posts from Google Groups The Usenet Improvement Project: http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html > I saw on the Discovery Channel a company out of California building 'new' > 1969 Camaros (Unique Performance). They're getting $125,000 for them. They [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Is anyone doing this? You mean apart from individuals like us? Signature"We began to realize, as we plowed on with the destruction of New Jersey, that the extent of our American lunatic fringe had been underestimated." Orson Wells on the reaction to the _War Of The Worlds_ broadcast. >> Is anyone doing this? > > You mean apart from individuals like us? Yes. Is anyone building brand new Jeeps in the US besides DC as a commercial venture? It sounds like an interesting business venture, for someone with a ton of cash burning a hole in their pocket. >>> Is anyone doing this? >> >> You mean apart from individuals like us? > > Yes. Is anyone building brand new Jeeps in the US besides DC as a commercial > venture? Not CJs but MBs and GPWs: http://www.olivedrabfever.com/ "This is where we come in. We build brand new war era jeeps from new old stock, rebuilt and reproduction parts." Signature"We began to realize, as we plowed on with the destruction of New Jersey, that the extent of our American lunatic fringe had been underestimated." Orson Wells on the reaction to the _War Of The Worlds_ broadcast. > I saw on the Discovery Channel a company out of California building 'new' > 1969 Camaros (Unique Performance). They're getting $125,000 for them. They [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Is anyone doing this? Surprised no one mentioned this but Spike TV's Extreme 4x4 show built a Jeep from scratch with an aluminum body, they called it project AJ. http://www.brightcove.com/title.jsp?title=627011314 >> I saw on the Discovery Channel a company out of California building >> 'new' 1969 Camaros (Unique Performance). They're getting $125,000 for [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > http://www.brightcove.com/title.jsp?title=627011314 LOL, I like that show, but for some reason the guy on that show irritates the hell out of me. I remember the series though. Also, wouldn't it be nice to have a girlfriend or wife like Jessie on the show? :-) She makes it easier to put up with her co-host. Chris >>> I saw on the Discovery Channel a company out of California building >>> 'new' 1969 Camaros (Unique Performance). They're getting $125,000 for [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > Chris The guys OK but yes, Jessie is a doll... whoever her significant other is he is a very lucky guy. Jeff DeWitt |
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