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Car Forum / Jeep / August 2007

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Jeep Announces Lifetime Power Train Warranty

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Frank_v7.0 - 28 Jul 2007 16:13 GMT
Starting with '07 Jeeps purchased 07-25-07 Jeep is offering a "Lifetime"
Power Train warranty. If the terms are similar to the 7/70 I have on my
'04 TJ it could be verrry useful. The 7/70 has already saved me
hundreds. Chrysler products will also have the same coverage.
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Mike Romain - 28 Jul 2007 17:10 GMT
> Starting with '07 Jeeps purchased 07-25-07 Jeep is offering a "Lifetime"
> Power Train warranty. If the terms are similar to the 7/70 I have on my
> '04 TJ it could be verrry useful. The 7/70 has already saved me
> hundreds. Chrysler products will also have the same coverage.

That is only in Canada isn't it?

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
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XS11E - 28 Jul 2007 17:47 GMT
>> Starting with '07 Jeeps purchased 07-25-07 Jeep is offering a
>> "Lifetime" Power Train warranty. If the terms are similar to the
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> That is only in Canada isn't it?

I think it's in the US also.  

http://www.jeep.com/en/lifetime_powertrain_warranty/

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DougW - 28 Jul 2007 18:30 GMT
>>> Starting with '07 Jeeps purchased 07-25-07 Jeep is offering a
>>> "Lifetime" Power Train warranty. If the terms are similar to the
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> http://www.jeep.com/en/lifetime_powertrain_warranty/

Hmm..

That might help swing my decision over to purchasing
a new Jeep...

Only thing is the powertrain may cost some bucks to fix
but the electronics can chew your wallet a new one in no
time flat. :(

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Mike Romain - 28 Jul 2007 18:37 GMT
>>> Starting with '07 Jeeps purchased 07-25-07 Jeep is offering a
>>> "Lifetime" Power Train warranty. If the terms are similar to the
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> http://www.jeep.com/en/lifetime_powertrain_warranty/

I didn't pay close enough attention to the news, but I think it is only
in one country, so it would be in the US only then, not in Canada.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos:  Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
SnoMan - 28 Jul 2007 22:05 GMT
>> I think it's in the US also.  
>>
>> http://www.jeep.com/en/lifetime_powertrain_warranty/
>>
>I didn't pay close enough attention to the news, but I think it is only
>in one country, so it would be in the US only then, not in Canada.

I would love to see the fine print because they do not post details on
the web as it says "see dealer for details". I have o doubt that it is
"limited" as name suggests. I was looking at some nice couches last
several weeks and one brand a "limited" life time warranty too and the
fine print was it was "limited" to as long as that style was still
being made. Yes is was a couch but the point is limited lifetime
warranties can be misleading and get you with fine print.
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griffin - 29 Jul 2007 01:14 GMT
I'm tempted to go get a little rubber stamp made with tiny tiny tiny font
that says "<insert name> can back out of this contract at any time for any
reason" and then stamp it very subtly at the bottom of everything I sign
when the other person isn't paying attention.

Time for a little reverse justice.

> I would love to see the fine print because they do not post details on
> the web as it says "see dealer for details". I have o doubt that it is
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> being made. Yes is was a couch but the point is limited lifetime
> warranties can be misleading and get you with fine print.
DougW - 29 Jul 2007 01:42 GMT
> I'm tempted to go get a little rubber stamp made with tiny tiny tiny
> font that says "<insert name> can back out of this contract at any
> time for any reason" and then stamp it very subtly at the bottom of
> everything I sign when the other person isn't paying attention.
>
> Time for a little reverse justice.

Borrow some tricks from my playbook. :)

Demand a full legal copy of the contract be provided
prior to your signature. (A legal copy must be notarized)
It's a pain in the a.s the dealerships don't like to do
but "depending on your state" have to.

Prior to signing the contract make them go over every line
of the contract, word at a time, to included all attachments,
ammendments, etc.

Be prepared, this can take hours.

But why not, after all they usually enjoy wasting your
time running back and forth to get offers approved.

Now your wasting time on thier clock.  Make sure your not
just wasting the sales drones time, get the credit manager
and as many honchos in there as you can.

Just make sure you don't drink too much coffee/soda/water
so the "urgency" falls on the folks your dealing with. ;)

Oh yea.. the other trick.

Set a firm time of n minutes for the "got to get my bosses
aproval" (I've used 2 min) If they don't return in time,
walk and come back at a later date.  That's just a delay
tactic they use to wear you down and make you think they
are actually doing something.  In fact they are usually
just betting how much they can get out of you.

You can also come equipped with your own contract.
Make sure you write down every thing they promise
and include it as a legally binding ammendment to
your contract. Or pen it directly on the contract
they provide.

At all times, remember it's your money and your time.

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griffin - 29 Jul 2007 09:20 GMT
Sometimes it's well worth it ...

> At all times, remember it's your money and your time.
Mark E. Bye - 31 Jul 2007 14:28 GMT
>Borrow some tricks from my playbook. :)

>Set a firm time of n minutes for the "got to get my bosses
>aproval" (I've used 2 min) If they don't return in time,
>walk and come back at a later date.  That's just a delay
>tactic they use to wear you down and make you think they
>are actually doing something.  In fact they are usually
>just betting how much they can get out of you.

An excellent illustration of this sales technique is depicted in the
movie "Fargo"... the scene in which a new car buyer is haggling with
the salesman, Jerry Lundegaard, about paying for "TruCoat".

Mark
'93 XJ
twaldron - 31 Jul 2007 20:52 GMT
>>Borrow some tricks from my playbook. :)
>
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> Mark
> '93 XJ

I was thinking of that very scene as I was reading that post.  :)  I
love that movie.

tw
budman@frozenorth.ca - 29 Jul 2007 15:01 GMT
Jeep warranty info for Canada is here:

http://www.daimlerchrysler.ca/CA/03/EN/OWNERS/1,,CA-03-EN-OWNERS-SERVICE-WARRANT
Y,.html


>>XS11E wrote:
>>> Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
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>>Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590
>>(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
SNSPRT - 06 Aug 2007 14:24 GMT
Makes one question the life of the new jeeps

> Jeep warranty info for Canada is here:
>
[quoted text clipped - 24 lines]
>>>Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590
>>>(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
Mike Romain - 06 Aug 2007 14:49 GMT
I guess they figure the Americans aren't likely to keep a Jeep as long
as a Canadian or something so they don't figure they will have to pay out?

The Canadian Warranty is only for 100,000 'kilometers' or about 62000
miles eh.

Mike

> Makes one question the life of the new jeeps
>
[quoted text clipped - 25 lines]
>>>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590
>>>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
XS11E - 06 Aug 2007 19:12 GMT
> Makes one question the life of the new jeeps

The length of the warranty has nothing to do with the life or
reliability, it's an advertising gimmick and some repairs under a long
warranty are actually charged to advertising.

You may recall years back when Chrysler started a longer warranty, Ford
and GM immediately followed so Chrysler had the advantage for only a
short time and soon everyone went back to shorter warranties.

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Brian - 08 Aug 2007 02:07 GMT
Would the electronic stuff be included in the definition of "powertrain"
- the stability and traction controls, ABS, etc?

B
L.W. (Bill) Hughes III - 28 Jul 2007 20:41 GMT
Ditto.
       God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/

> Starting with '07 Jeeps purchased 07-25-07 Jeep is offering a "Lifetime"
> Power Train warranty. If the terms are similar to the 7/70 I have on my
> '04 TJ it could be verrry useful. The 7/70 has already saved me
> hundreds. Chrysler products will also have the same coverage.

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