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Car Forum / Jeep / August 2007

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TJ won't start /run

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SNSPRT - 05 Aug 2007 01:09 GMT
I have a 2000 TJ. It currently won't start most of the time and when it did
start it was only after sitting  over night and then would start and run for
about 5-15 minutes depending on the temperature outside. I replaced the
following with on luck... the crankshaft position sensor, the camshaft
position sensor, the coil pack. when none of these work I had it towed to a
garage who after trying some other test, replaced the PCM. But still does
want to start/run. The jeep is set up with CA emissions.

Anyone have any suggestions?

Thanks in advance

Pete
Matt Macchiarolo - 05 Aug 2007 01:18 GMT
Clean the throttle position sensor connector with electrical cleaner.

>I have a 2000 TJ. It currently won't start most of the time and when it did
>start it was only after sitting  over night and then would start and run
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> Pete
SNSPRT - 05 Aug 2007 01:24 GMT
Does that usually get afeected by heat?

> Clean the throttle position sensor connector with electrical cleaner.
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SNSPRT - 05 Aug 2007 01:38 GMT
scanner shows problem with camposition sensor.

I forgot to put this in original posting

>I have a 2000 TJ. It currently won't start most of the time and when it did
>start it was only after sitting  over night and then would start and run
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> Pete
DougW - 05 Aug 2007 07:54 GMT
> scanner shows problem with camposition sensor.

With all the problems and replaced bits you are
mentioning, I would suspect a faulty harness or
ground splice issue.

That's going to take a multimeter, disconnecting
the harness, and about 4 hours of your time to
diagnose.

These days most shops only hook up the scanner.
Problem is the scanner can't detect wiring faults
that well.

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Nick Hughes - 05 Aug 2007 23:09 GMT
Can you describe more about it not starting?  Do you turn the key,
hear it crank, but the engine doesn't turn?  etc...

I had a problem with my 2000 TJ where that would happen.  It was like
there was a fuel pump problem.  It was under warranty at the time.
The dealer had NO IDEA what was wrong.  They just started replacing
everything.  Fuel tank (fuel pump is part of tank), PCM, etc..  They
would fix it, it wouldn't start again and I would bring it back.  I
think this went of for about 2 - 3 weeks where I didn't have the car.
Eventually, I just worked.

I suspect replacing the PCM solved the issue.  Overall, I think a
grounding issue or short was causing the failure.

Nick

> I have a 2000 TJ. It currently won't start most of the time and when it did
> start it was only after sitting  over night and then would start and run for
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> Pete
SNSPRT - 06 Aug 2007 00:07 GMT
Turn the key, engine turns but doesn't start.the engine would start first
thing in the morning and run for 5-15 minute. the garage hooked up three
test lights to the ignition coil control wires before starting it one
morning. the lights came on when the engine started. the after while the
some of the lights would start to flicker or just go out. That is how they
made the call that the PCM was the problem. But after replacing that the
engine still won't start.

> Can you describe more about it not starting?  Do you turn the key,
> hear it crank, but the engine doesn't turn?  etc...
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>> Pete
Nick Hughes - 06 Aug 2007 19:18 GMT
Your description is almost exactly what I experienced.  From what I
recall, the fuel pump (part of tank) melted.  They replaced that and
the PCM.  They also indicated they had a diagnostics tech looking for
shorts.

Are there any TSBs on this?  I recall hearing other people experienced
this problem a few years ago.

Also note, I think many of these problem occured after putting down my
front windshield.  After that, I experienced a leak between the front
windshield and lower gasket.  This may have caused some shorting and
been a contributing factor into the problem.

Nick

> Turn the key, engine turns but doesn't start.the engine would start first
> thing in the morning and run for 5-15 minute. the garage hooked up three
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