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Car Forum / Jeep / September 2007

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busted header bolt

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j - 13 Sep 2007 18:33 GMT
95 wrangler with the head bolf broken off flush.  suggestions?

thanks
Mike Romain - 13 Sep 2007 18:59 GMT
> 95 wrangler with the head bolf broken off flush.  suggestions?
>
> thanks

What is it flush with?  The head?

If so I have heard of folks putting a nut there and welding it in the
center of the nut onto the stub if there is even just a little showing,
then using that.

I have heard of and seen folks use a fire wrench (cutting torch) and
blow the sucker out with that.  It seems to work.

I have heard left hand drill bits can work.

Things like 'easy outs' are a failure 99% of the time I have seen, used
or heard of their use.

'I' can drill out 99% of the ones I go after without damaging threads
much if any.  Many years of Practice from living in the rust belt helps
there. :-(

I use a small bit and drill a pilot hole offset from the center of the
bolt.  I then use a bit that will fit from this pilot 'just' to the edge
of the threads and drill.  This leaves a crescent moon shape of the bolt
that can be backed out with a screwdriver or hammer and center punch.

Good Luck!

Mike
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RoyJ - 13 Sep 2007 23:21 GMT
All of what Mike said but especially: do NOT try an easy out. The bolt
is rusted in, you will snap the easyout and then you have no hope.

>> 95 wrangler with the head bolf broken off flush.  suggestions?
>>
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SnoMan - 13 Sep 2007 23:22 GMT
>Things like 'easy outs' are a failure 99% of the time I have seen, used
>or heard of their use.

Actually they have a pretty high success rate 'if" you do it right.
The trick is to drill out enough of bolt to get a good sized EZ-out to
bite in it. Hollowing the bolt out weakens its gripe some on
block/threaded hole. . Also cast iron expands quicker than steel does
and if you heat blot up several hundred degrees in bolt area quickly
(you need to drain coolant) after drill hole and before using EZ-out
you can remove realy stubborn ones.
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Mike Romain - 14 Sep 2007 00:18 GMT
>> Things like 'easy outs' are a failure 99% of the time I have seen, used
>> or heard of their use.
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> TheSnoMan.com

Living in the rust belt makes for some nasty ones.

I prefer to drill off center so the bolt ends up C or crescent moon
shaped so it releases on one edge and can spin out.

Gotta drill it either way anyway.

Mike
SnoMan - 14 Sep 2007 12:39 GMT
>>> Things like 'easy outs' are a failure 99% of the time I have seen, used
>>> or heard of their use.
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>
>Mike

Sometimes if you fear the bolts are going to be a pill you should try
to break them loose right after engine is shut off hot. Yes you do
need some protection (like some leather work gloves and a long sleeve
shirt) but when block is hot the bolts will come out easier due to
cast iron expading more than steel.
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SnoMan - 13 Sep 2007 19:00 GMT
>95 wrangler with the head bolf broken off flush.  suggestions?
>
>thanks

Get a Cobalt bit (not high speed steel) and drill center out and try a
easy out. It that fails, drill hole larger and retap threads. Note,
you want a Cobalt bit because not only will they cut it good (far
better than steel bits), they are also harder to break by accident.
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