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Winch mounting plate layout - Anyone have one?
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Kate - 16 Sep 2007 16:17 GMT What a happy day. My Ex husband and his wife came to visit a few weeks ago. They took our littlest Jeeper home for three weeks and he just brought him home last night. While they were here he told me that he had a Warn winch he would give me for my Jeep. What a guy!
Last night, the winch came with him. It's a Warn M8000, complete. Only been used twice. http://www.warn.com/truck/winches/src/M8000.shtml
I've been looking at mounting plates and find that they are a bit pricey. Since the hubster is a helluva fabricator I am hoping that someone has a layout they would be willing to share so that we don't have to reinvent the wheel (so to speak)
Thanks in advance :¬D
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Carl S - 16 Sep 2007 17:06 GMT Kate,
If you go to a 4x4 shop and look at one, you'll understand. It sits on top of the frame rails on front of the grille, and bolts down to the frame. Center the winch on the place, mark the winche's holes, and drill. Bolt and be happy.
Carl
> What a happy day. > My Ex husband and his wife came to visit a few weeks ago. They took our [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Thanks in advance :¬D Kate - 16 Sep 2007 17:38 GMT Thanks Carl. I'll go in to town tomorrow and see what I can find. Not much in the area for 4x4 shops, and the ONE that we have carries very little in stock.
Kate
Kate,
If you go to a 4x4 shop and look at one, you'll understand. It sits on top of the frame rails on front of the grille, and bolts down to the frame. Center the winch on the place, mark the winche's holes, and drill. Bolt and be happy.
Carl
> What a happy day. > My Ex husband and his wife came to visit a few weeks ago. They took our [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Thanks in advance :¬D Carl S - 16 Sep 2007 17:49 GMT I will try to find you a picture. The one I bought was 3/16" steel from warn.
> Thanks Carl. > I'll go in to town tomorrow and see what I can find. [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] >> >> Thanks in advance :¬D Greg - 16 Sep 2007 18:38 GMT I have a Warn 8274 mounted on what was a warn F150 mount that I just cut to fit my CJ, I could snap a pic and send it to you if you like. Greg
> What a happy day. > My Ex husband and his wife came to visit a few weeks ago. They took our [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Thanks in advance :¬D Kate - 16 Sep 2007 20:27 GMT Thanks Greg, every little bit will help!
I have a Warn 8274 mounted on what was a warn F150 mount that I just cut to fit my CJ, I could snap a pic and send it to you if you like. Greg
> What a happy day. > My Ex husband and his wife came to visit a few weeks ago. They took our [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Thanks in advance :¬D Mike Romain - 16 Sep 2007 21:23 GMT > What a happy day. > My Ex husband and his wife came to visit a few weeks ago. They took our [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Thanks in advance :¬D One thing on mine is the mounting bolts fit into a stock frame threaded hole and one passed through the frame with a tube and washer setup so it couldn't crush it.
Mine is a CJ7 though so the design wouldn't likely be the same, but then... I could also snap off a photo and email it if it would help.
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Kate - 18 Sep 2007 01:29 GMT Thanks to everyone for the words of advice.
Hubby looked at it and tells me he is planning to just build me a front bumper (much like the ARB) that has the winch mount incorporated into it.
So, what would have been a half day project, likely will not see the light of day until next spring the way he procrastinates- damnit.
Heh.... I'll get him.... I'll strap it on with Zip ties just to goad him into it.
Thanks again eveyone, as soon as he gets it built, I'll post some pics. just don't hold your breath.
Kate
ULB - 18 Sep 2007 02:27 GMT > Thanks to everyone for the words of advice. > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Kate Just food for thought. My dad welds alot for his pleasure. He has built me a steering box protector, both front and rear of his bumpers on his grand wagoneer, his rear rack, and my gas can holder on the rear of my garvin bumper.
Welding is alot of fun etc, but I will say this. With the cost of steel today, you might actually be better off buying one from a vendor, just in case it turns out poorly. The cost of doing it twice will start to hurt and push it more over the cost of a mass produced bumper.
BTW, if you still want more detailed pics of my warn mount (with tape meaure in place), let me know. Glad I checked, I was just about to take pics. :)
Take care,
Kate - 18 Sep 2007 14:30 GMT Yes, absolutely, I would be happy to have them.
I suppose I should add here that hubs is a retired heavy equipment mechanic and has been a professional welder all of his life. I agree with you on the price of steel. My thoughts are that since I wanted an ARB bumper that it doesn't make sense to buy/make one and then have to replace it in the near future with the bumper. I'm just SO DANG IMPATIENT! You know how women are with their new toys - heh.
Hubs is also going to build my rails and the rest of my under body armor. The $$ is something of a hold up. I've been thinking that I should go back to work just so I can buy Jeep parts.
I'll email you so you have my address to send the photos, and thanks again!
Kate
On Sep 17, 5:29 pm, "Kate" <svtk...@spam.filter> wrote:
> Thanks to everyone for the words of advice. > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Kate Just food for thought. My dad welds alot for his pleasure. He has built me a steering box protector, both front and rear of his bumpers on his grand wagoneer, his rear rack, and my gas can holder on the rear of my garvin bumper.
Welding is alot of fun etc, but I will say this. With the cost of steel today, you might actually be better off buying one from a vendor, just in case it turns out poorly. The cost of doing it twice will start to hurt and push it more over the cost of a mass produced bumper.
BTW, if you still want more detailed pics of my warn mount (with tape meaure in place), let me know. Glad I checked, I was just about to take pics. :)
Take care,
RoyJ - 18 Sep 2007 23:29 GMT I built an integrated 2"x5" rectangular tube bumper and winch mount that I have been quite happy with. The tube is even tested for pressure in case I need a small air tank. Back bumper is the same except it has the 2" receiver hitch build in (not hung below).
I could send some construction pics but both of us have munged up addresses.
> Thanks to everyone for the words of advice. > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Kate ULB - 19 Sep 2007 03:08 GMT > I built an integrated 2"x5" rectangular tube bumper and winch mount that > I have been quite happy with. The tube is even tested for pressure in [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > - Show quoted text - Out of curiosity, what is the psi the bumper can handle and can it inflate 4 tires at 10 PSI to say 25lb?
RoyJ - 19 Sep 2007 15:00 GMT My bumpers are 57" long, tapered ends, 2x5" rectangular tube with 1/8" wall. capacity is just under 2 gallons. I wouldn't have any particular problem with filling them with air from a standard shop air supply (around 150 psi) I never hooked up the fittings because the air volume is so small compared to my 10.50x31x 15 tires that it wasn't worth the effort. Sounded like a good idea when I built them though.
>> I built an integrated 2"x5" rectangular tube bumper and winch mount that >> I have been quite happy with. The tube is even tested for pressure in [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > Out of curiosity, what is the psi the bumper can handle and can it > inflate 4 tires at 10 PSI to say 25lb? L.W. (Bill) Hughes III - 19 Sep 2007 22:45 GMT York Compressor for On-Board Air: http://www.jedi.com/obiwan/jeep/yorkair.html CO2 / air equivalents: http://www.rockcrawler.com/techreports/inflation_zone_cfh20/index.asp I use my spare tire and equalizing hose to bring my sand pressures up for road use emergencies God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/
> Out of curiosity, what is the psi the bumper can handle and can it > inflate 4 tires at 10 PSI to say 25lb?
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24Bit® - 21 Sep 2007 17:51 GMT On Wed, 19 Sep 2007 14:45:34 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III" <LWBillHughes@hughes.net> wrote:
> York Compressor for On-Board Air: >http://www.jedi.com/obiwan/jeep/yorkair.html CO2 / air equivalents: [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Bless America, Bill O|||||||O >mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ PSYCHOPATHIC PERSONALITY AN ENDEMIC SOCIAL DISEASE, A MASK OF SANITY
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> PSYCHOPATHIC PERSONALITY > [quoted text clipped - 109 lines] > should be made. > * * * * *
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jbjeep - 16 Sep 2007 23:52 GMT Way cool. congrats! -jenn
>>What a happy day. >>My Ex husband and his wife came to visit a few weeks ago. They took our [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >> >>Thanks in advance :¬D c - 17 Sep 2007 00:42 GMT Here are a couple links for you: http://www.offroaders.com/tech/winches/WarnX8000i.htm http://www.atozfabrication.com/catalog/jeeptjyjstandardwinchmount-p-29.html
Chris
>>> What a happy day. >>> My Ex husband and his wife came to visit a few weeks ago. They took our [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >>> >>> Thanks in advance :¬D Kate - 18 Sep 2007 14:19 GMT Thanks for the links Chris, great info on those pages.
K.
Here are a couple links for you: http://www.offroaders.com/tech/winches/WarnX8000i.htm http://www.atozfabrication.com/catalog/jeeptjyjstandardwinchmount-p-29.html
Chris
>>> What a happy day. >>> My Ex husband and his wife came to visit a few weeks ago. They took our [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] >>> >>> Thanks in advance :¬D engineer - 17 Sep 2007 00:40 GMT > What a happy day. > My Ex husband and his wife came to visit a few weeks ago. They took our [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Thanks in advance :¬D I made my own and wish I had spent the bucks for the OEM. They'll fit right and be rated properly.
Carl S - 17 Sep 2007 01:14 GMT Kate,
The proper plate is only $100..
Carl
> What a happy day. > My Ex husband and his wife came to visit a few weeks ago. They took our [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Thanks in advance :¬D ULB - 17 Sep 2007 02:46 GMT > What a happy day. > My Ex husband and his wife came to visit a few weeks ago. They took our [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > The shortest distance between two points, > can be a lot more fun in a Jeep! Hi Kate,
I have the warn mount plate and a warn XD9000i on the front of my 05 rubicon. If you wish I can take measurements and detailed pics. Let me know, unless someone else comes through.
Gotta hit the sack. Take care,
Jamie Mello - 23 Sep 2007 20:47 GMT I have one thing to say check ebay out for your plate. I got mine for 50 bucks for my 99 wrangler. But the price rang is like 50 to like 80 bucks at the most. I hope this was on any help to you.
99 wrangler 31 inch good year mtr tires warn M8000 winch 2.5 lift skyjacker shocks a lot of lights (winch,hood,bumper, wind shield) Even more toys to come
Some people have an addiction to drink... Some people have an addiction to drugs.... I just have an addiction to Jeeps and their accessories....
Here are a few pictures of my rig I will update soon as I get new batteries for my cam
http://s217.photobucket.com/albums/cc222/99_wrangler
Kate - 23 Sep 2007 21:26 GMT I have one thing to say check ebay out for your plate. I got mine for 50 bucks for my 99 wrangler. But the price rang is like 50 to like 80 bucks at the most. I hope this was on any help to you. ---- Thanks Jamie. I have been cruising EBay. Lots of mounts there. I am a horribly impatient old broad. I nearly ordered one online. After I whined and sniveled a bit, I sat it up on the table and spent a morning cleaning it and muttering to myself he told me he is planning to build me a complete ARB style bumper with integrated lights and winch mount. He's building a dock for our neighbors and has planned to use the money from that project to build my bumper. Whatta guy - aye!?
Oh, then he looks at it all shined up and grins "There, THAT looks better. looks like YOUR winch now!" and gave me a smooch on the forehead. It was kind of grubby, I'm pretty meticulous about taking care of my stuff. The guy that gave it to me, is not so meticulous, but hey, I don't care. It was just a little dirt and rust and a couple of missing screws.
 Signature Kate ______ /l ,[____], l-L -OlllllllO- ()_)-()_)--)_)
The shortest distance between two points, is a lot more fun in a Jeep!
Jamie Mello - 23 Sep 2007 20:47 GMT I have one thing to say check ebay out for your plate. I got mine for 50 bucks for my 99 wrangler. But the price rang is like 50 to like 80 bucks at the most. I hope this was on any help to you.
99 wrangler 31 inch good year mtr tires warn M8000 winch 2.5 lift skyjacker shocks a lot of lights (winch,hood,bumper, wind shield) Even more toys to come
Some people have an addiction to drink... Some people have an addiction to drugs.... I just have an addiction to Jeeps and their accessories....
Here are a few pictures of my rig I will update soon as I get new batteries for my cam
http://s217.photobucket.com/albums/cc222/99_wrangler
Jamie Mello - 23 Sep 2007 20:48 GMT I have one thing to say check ebay out for your plate. I got mine for 50 bucks for my 99 wrangler. But the price rang is like 50 to like 80 bucks at the most. I hope this was on any help to you.
99 wrangler 31 inch good year mtr tires warn M8000 winch 2.5 lift skyjacker shocks a lot of lights (winch,hood,bumper, wind shield) Even more toys to come
Some people have an addiction to drink... Some people have an addiction to drugs.... I just have an addiction to Jeeps and their accessories....
Here are a few pictures of my rig I will update soon as I get new batteries for my cam
http://s217.photobucket.com/albums/cc222/99_wrangler
Jamie Mello - 23 Sep 2007 21:42 GMT I have one thing to say check ebay out for your plate. I got mine for 50 bucks for my 99 wrangler. But the price rang is like 50 to like 80 bucks at the most. I hope this was on any help to you.
99 wrangler 31 inch good year mtr tires warn M8000 winch 2.5 lift skyjacker shocks a lot of lights (winch,hood,bumper, wind shield) Even more toys to come
Some people have an addiction to drink... Some people have an addiction to drugs.... I just have an addiction to Jeeps and their accessories....
Here are a few pictures of my rig I will update soon as I get new batteries for my cam
http://s217.photobucket.com/albums/cc222/99_wrangler
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