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Car Forum / Jeep / March 2008

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2002 Jeep Liberty Battery Cables

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. - 05 Feb 2008 17:57 GMT
I tried to remove the negative battery cable so I could clean
the corrosion off, but I couldn't loosen the bolt because it has a
plain round head and it isn't a captive bolt.

Does anybody know if there's a trick to loosening the battery cable
bolts?

This round headed bolt business makes me wonder if there is some
reason why owners shouldn't perform such simple maintenance
thermselves.

Like, obviously the radio might forget what stations it has memorized
and the digital clock would need to be reset.

Would disconnecting the cables cause problems for the ECU?
Earle Horton - 05 Feb 2008 19:13 GMT
I haven't seen the exact bolt you describe, but if it has a round head then
it should be a captive bolt.  Perhaps it is splined or square where it goes
into the battery cable clamp, and you've gouged a round hole trying to
loosen it.  Yeah, that's a big problem when you have to reset the radio
presets or the digital clock.  It would have cost them maybe $0.50 to put a
permanent memory in the radio or an auxiliary battery in the clock.

You won't hurt the ECU if you do get that cable off.  At the worst it will
lose some memory associated with cruise control or engine performance, but
it will all come back as you drive the vehicle.  Again, it would have killed
them to put more permanent memory chip in the ECU.

Cheers,

Earle

>I tried to remove the negative battery cable so I could clean
> the corrosion off, but I couldn't loosen the bolt because it has a
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>
> Would disconnecting the cables cause problems for the ECU?
Scott in Baltimore - 06 Feb 2008 00:32 GMT
> You won't hurt the ECU if you do get that cable off.  At the worst it
> will lose some memory associated with cruise control or engine
> performance, but it will all come back as you drive the vehicle.  Again,
> it would have killed them to put more permanent memory chip in the ECU.

But then you couldn't clear the codes by removing the power.
Earle Horton - 06 Feb 2008 00:31 GMT
>> You won't hurt the ECU if you do get that cable off.  At the worst it
>> will lose some memory associated with cruise control or engine
>> performance, but it will all come back as you drive the vehicle.  Again,
>> it would have killed them to put more permanent memory chip in the ECU.
>
> But then you couldn't clear the codes by removing the power.

:o)

Earle
Herb Leong - 06 Feb 2008 06:20 GMT
#> You won't hurt the ECU if you do get that cable off.  At the worst it
#> will lose some memory associated with cruise control or engine
#> performance, but it will all come back as you drive the vehicle.  Again,
#> it would have killed them to put more permanent memory chip in the ECU.
#
#But then you couldn't clear the codes by removing the power.

Yeah, then you would have to go to the $tealer$hip and pay them money
to hook up their $6000.00 drb3 scan tool to do it.  

Think I'm kidding about the 6 grand?
http://miller.spx.com/data/DC05-157.pdf

Please don't give them any ideas...  :-)

/herb
БДЁЖИЛ∑ - 06 Feb 2008 02:10 GMT
> I haven't seen the exact bolt you describe, but if it has a round head then
> it should be a captive bolt. �Perhaps it is splined or square where it goes
> into the battery cable clamp, and you've gouged a round hole trying to
> loosen it. �

Thanks for your ideas. It seems that the previous owner cross threaded
the carriage bolt that Jeep uses for a battery cable clamp bolt and
kept turning it until he also stripped out the soft sheet metal clamp.

I finally hack-sawed the bolt off. I hate to use crude methods if
there's any possibility that the problem is just something that the
manufacturers are doing differently in their never-ending quest to
maximum profits by cheapening the parts.
Joeseph P. Blow - 31 Mar 2008 21:41 GMT
On Tue, 5 Feb 2008 12:13:36 -0700, "Earle Horton"
<earleh_nospam@live.com> top posted like an ignorant f.cking morn and
wrote:

>I haven't seen the exact bolt you describe, but if it has a round head then
>it should be a captive bolt.  Perhaps it is splined or square where it goes
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>it will all come back as you drive the vehicle.  Again, it would have killed
>them to put more permanent memory chip in the ECU.

Giving such bad advice is going to get you in trouble.

>Cheers,
>
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>> Would disconnecting the cables cause problems for the ECU?
>>
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