Car Forum / Jeep / March 2008
96 Cherokee, 4.0, whats wrong
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Rob Mills - 25 Mar 2008 23:52 GMT It was parked for a day and a half and then would not start. When jumped it started but immediately died.The mechanics at the shop I use are going nuts trying to locate problem. They have elect power at every place it should be but it still won't start and keep running. They have checked alternator, injectors, crank sensor, fuel pump (pump was replaced 30 days ago). They are detecting a small drain on battery that they have not been able to locate as of yet. They do say the distributor is worn but don't think that is causing the problem.
Any one have any ideas? It has 125K on it. Rob Mills
PS, I did notice a bit of roughness in engine just before I parked it but it wasn't real bad.
L.W.(ßill)Hughes III - 26 Mar 2008 00:23 GMT Hi Rob, If you have a sentry key, and not using it, but the other you key you made for the door. that bad key will cause the engine to run for about five seconds before it quits, Or it's fuse is blown. If not, go ahead and replace the CPS: http://jeep.off-road.com/jeep/article/articleDetail.jsp?id=257990 & http://s112.photobucket.com/albums/n171/Billy_Ray_2006/Crankshaft%20Position%20S ensor/ That is the problem on ninety nine and nine tens of the no starts. God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:BillHughes@billhughes.com http://www.billhughes.com/jeep_bookmark.htm
> It was parked for a day and a half and then would not start. When > jumped it started but immediately died.The mechanics at the shop [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > PS, I did notice a bit of roughness in engine just before I parked it but it > wasn't real bad.
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Pink Freud - 26 Mar 2008 00:35 GMT On an otherwise nice day, Bill (Mr. ED) Hughes lied:
> Hi Rob, > If you have a sentry key, and not using it, but the other you key you [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > mailto:BillHughes@billhughes.com > http://www.billhughes.com/jeep_bookmark.htm If he can understand that, he's a bloomin' genius.
Learn English, Billieboi.
You don't know anything else, so why not?
And how do you know he is using another key, anyway?
Do you think the mechanix wouldn't already have considered hat?
You be real dumm.
>> It was parked for a day and a half and then would not start. When >> jumped it started but immediately died.The mechanics at the shop [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > it >> wasn't real bad.
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Jeff DeWitt - 26 Mar 2008 00:55 GMT Bill offered a reasonable thing to try, all you offered was your usual drivel, do you even HAVE a Jeep? Have you ever even RIDDEN in one? Have you EVER posted ANYTHING on this newsgroup that wasn't a dig at Bill?
Good God man, get a freaking life!
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> On an otherwise nice day, Bill (Mr. ED) Hughes lied: > [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] >> it >>> wasn't real bad. DougW - 26 Mar 2008 00:58 GMT > Bill offered a reasonable thing to try, all you offered was your usual > drivel, do you even HAVE a Jeep? Have you ever even RIDDEN in one? > Have you EVER posted ANYTHING on this newsgroup that wasn't a dig at > Bill? PF is your basic troll, best plonked unless you appreciate the humor value.
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Pink Freud - 26 Mar 2008 03:17 GMT >> Bill offered a reasonable thing to try, all you offered was your usual >> drivel, do you even HAVE a Jeep? Have you ever even RIDDEN in one? [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > PF is your basic troll, best plonked unless you appreciate > the humor value. Well, Doug, I am light-years from your basic anything.
But please do <PLONK> me. I'd really appreciate it, actually.
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Pink Freud - 26 Mar 2008 03:15 GMT > Bill offered a reasonable thing to try For a dumb 7-year-old maybe.
> all you offered was your usual > drivel, do you even HAVE a Jeep? Ha!
I'm a car guy, and even as a child, I never played with toys much. Of course I don't have a jeep. Why on earth would I? I have no desire to play in mud.
> Have you ever even RIDDEN in one? Many times. Sadly.
> Have you EVER posted ANYTHING on this newsgroup that wasn't a dig at Bill? Actually, yes; I guess you weren't paying attention.
Besides, what else can one do with Bill? Praise him for continually spamming groups in which he never participated?
> Good God man, get a freaking life! Jeffery, me lad, I have so much of a life, I virtually have lives. I'm well-established in several areas far beyond cars, which is merely a love of mine.
Simply <PLONK> me and you'll be far less distressed.
And I'll feel better that I'm not annoying you needlessly. I simply want to slam Mr. Hughes, which he richly deserves.
> Jeff DeWitt > [quoted text clipped - 42 lines] >>> it >>>> wasn't real bad.
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Terry Dactille ©~® - 26 Mar 2008 09:47 GMT On Tue, 25 Mar 2008 16:08:17 -0800, "L.W.\(ßill\)Hughes III" <BillHughes@billhughes.com> wrote:
Mr.Mills needs a English Translator, or what ever Hughes is typing! Offering help and can't even get one sentence correct so the fellow can understand his hieroglyphical writing!
As always Mr.ED is a loser!
>Hi Rob, > If you have a sentry key, and not using it, but the other you key you [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] >it >> wasn't real bad. --
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DougW - 26 Mar 2008 00:55 GMT > It was parked for a day and a half and then would not start. When > jumped it started but immediately died.The mechanics at the shop [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > PS, I did notice a bit of roughness in engine just before I parked it > but it wasn't real bad. coil, wires, rotor, cap, and plugs? ASD relay (automatic shut down).
Generally when the 4.0 refuses to start and has roughness it's the CPS sensor going bad. CPS sensors are hard to test and even look "ok" even if they are not. But for certain if it's dead the engine will not start. Sometimes just removing/cleaning/reconnecting the sensor is good enough.
http://revbeergoggles.com/cps/
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Mike Romain - 26 Mar 2008 02:45 GMT If your battery has developed a bad cell, it will act like that. They newer Jeeps won't run on a punky battery.
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> It was parked for a day and a half and then would not start. When > jumped it started but immediately died.The mechanics at the shop [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > PS, I did notice a bit of roughness in engine just before I parked it but it > wasn't real bad. PeterD - 26 Mar 2008 13:30 GMT >It was parked for a day and a half and then would not start. When >jumped it started but immediately died.The mechanics at the shop [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >PS, I did notice a bit of roughness in engine just before I parked it but it >wasn't real bad. What codes does the ECM give? They did get the codes right?
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