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Car Forum / Jeep / May 2008My Newly Lifted XJ
Finally! The lift Kit has been installed :p See pic in a.b.p.a.4x4 It's only been a day and a half, but so far, so good. A few noises to diagnose, and a very slight chance that a SYE might be required, but no detectible vibrations so far. Anyone know of a reference listing acceptable driveline angles? And, is it OK for the rear dif to be pointing slightly upwards?? But, the XJ has always been an inch or so lower on the passenger side, and the new springs did NOT change this. Anyone have any ideas about what might cause this? The vehicle is empty of all foreign materials, and I'm SURE the tire pressures are correct (but I WILL BE checking them tomorrow <g>). TIA ... Funny thing, My Rough Country 4" X Series lift came with a slightly larger coil for the driver's side. It is supposed to prevent the failure of that spring due to torque. Makes sense I guess. As far as the angle of the differential, we had to go back on mine and readjust them once. We have some rattles that drive me out of my eff-ing mind, but they are fom the quick disconnects. Gonna remidy that as soon as financially possible. I hate rattles and squeeks. What year is yours? K. Finally! The lift Kit has been installed :p See pic in a.b.p.a.4x4 It's only been a day and a half, but so far, so good. A few noises to diagnose, and a very slight chance that a SYE might be required, but no detectible vibrations so far. Anyone know of a reference listing acceptable driveline angles? And, is it OK for the rear dif to be pointing slightly upwards?? But, the XJ has always been an inch or so lower on the passenger side, and the new springs did NOT change this. Anyone have any ideas about what might cause this? The vehicle is empty of all foreign materials, and I'm SURE the tire pressures are correct (but I WILL BE checking them tomorrow <g>). TIA ... >Funny thing, > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > >K. It's a 95. I called Rough Country and they said the springs on my kit were the same size for each side. The noises I hear SEEM to come from the back end, but I'll keep the quick disconnects in mind. (One noise that I wasSURE was from the rear was actually one of the front "hub caps" rattling loose!) So from your experience, the bottom of the differential should be parallel to the ground, and not tilted up? TIA ... >Finally! >The lift Kit has been installed :p [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > >... Well... *sigh* In my experience, when it was tilted TOO far, I was getting a little vibration. We went down to the Jeep dealer to look at some stock Jeeps, reajusted to get it as close as i could be, but it still appears a little tilted. No more vibration and no squalling U-Joints. Seems to be ok. I'd be glad to post a phot of mine if you like, let me know. The guy who might know is Mike, hopefully he will chime in. Kate On Sat, 3 May 2008 11:56:57 -0500, "Kate" <kate@fakeaddress.com> wrote: >Funny thing, > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > >K. It's a 95. I called Rough Country and they said the springs on my kit were the same size for each side. The noises I hear SEEM to come from the back end, but I'll keep the quick disconnects in mind. (One noise that I wasSURE was from the rear was actually one of the front "hub caps" rattling loose!) So from your experience, the bottom of the differential should be parallel to the ground, and not tilted up? TIA ... >Finally! >The lift Kit has been installed :p [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > >... One other thing, On my kit, the bolts that hold the shocks (I got the upgraded shocks) don't fit snugly in the bushings. I'm going to get some bushings made at a machine shop so there isn't any room to rattle. This with the disconnects I strongly believe is my problem child. I've seen some QDs that look great but one of the guys in our Jeep club has some that hs just pushes a button to disconnect. I hope to get more info from him and maybe go in that direction. That way I won't have to fight to find a level spot when I forget to cut them loose. K. > I've seen some QDs that look great but one of the guys in our Jeep > club has some that hs just pushes a button to disconnect. I hope to > get more info from him and maybe go in that direction. That way I > won't have to fight to find a level spot when I forget to cut them > loose. Them is this? http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=358591  SignatureDougW >> I've seen some QDs that look great but one of the guys in our Jeep >> club has some that hs just pushes a button to disconnect. I hope to [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Them is this? > http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=358591 I read about that deal here in RAMJ+W shortly after it was first posted on JeepForum, and just for kicks I tried to order one from the local Jeep dealer, but I was too late. By the time I ordered one it was heavily backordered, and a few weeks later I get a call saying the price had been jacked up so they canceled the order (without asking first, I might add). Eh, for the "mistake" price it might have been worth it... I'll stick with the TeraFlex discos for now. Signature~/Garth - 1993 Wrangler S 2.5 { }|||||||{ } "MukYJ" Hey Doug, Well, it MIGHT be however, I quote: "I know this works on YJs. I also believe that it will work on any Jeep on which the swaybar mounts to the bottom of the frame. I do not believe it will work on TJs because the sway bar is on top of the frame and bumper. " I'm not sure what model Mark's Jeep is. We're going on a run to Coon Creek later in the month, thought I would ask him about it then if he isnt doing MOAB. Kate 2O|||||||O6 TJ Rubi With some flammywhammers on it. Kate wrote: > I've seen some QDs that look great but one of the guys in our Jeep > club has some that hs just pushes a button to disconnect. I hope to > get more info from him and maybe go in that direction. That way I > won't have to fight to find a level spot when I forget to cut them > loose. Them is this? http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=358591 SignatureDougW Great article Doug, thank you. At least now I have an understanding of how they work. Kate Kate wrote: > I've seen some QDs that look great but one of the guys in our Jeep > club has some that hs just pushes a button to disconnect. I hope to > get more info from him and maybe go in that direction. That way I > won't have to fight to find a level spot when I forget to cut them > loose. Them is this? http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=358591 SignatureDougW >>Funny thing, >> [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > > TIA In the XJ (you have no CV joint in the rear driveshaft), the rear pinion should be set almost parallel to the output shaft of the transfer case. I say almost, because the rear pinion should be pointed a bit lower (0.5 - 1 degrees) than the TC output shaft. That is because under load the rear pinion will rotate a bit upwards, so you have to compensate for this by adjusting the rear pinion a bit lower. In the XJ driveshaft vibrations are less noticeable than TJs, because the drive-shafts are much longer, and the change in angles with the lift is smaller. The axle vibrations feel similar the difference of going from street tires to muds. If you already have mud tires, you may not feel the vibrations at all, so it would be better to put a set of old street tires if you have and adjust the pinion angle by trial-and-error, until you find the correct angle that gives the smoother ride. In the front axle, the pinion should be almost parallel to the driveshaft, again 1 degree lower that the parallel position, to permit the U-joint bearings to rotate for proper lubrication. If you noitice death-wobble, you may want to lower to front pinion a bit more to increase the caster angle. Regards, Bill Spiliotopoulos. '96 XJ, '06TJ. >>>Funny thing, >>> [quoted text clipped - 56 lines] >'96 XJ, >'06TJ. Now it seems that here's a man with a talent on explanations! Not crap like:(Torque is on the driver's side)! Give it up Cooyon, this was your last stand, and you lose again with your Ancient Papyrus Writings. Message-ID: <hY-dnTlNRKNK25DVnZ2dnUVZ_tjinZ2d@giganews.com> I was required to take the officer's test, while in Advanced Individual Training, which means I have a 59 IQ, and you didn't! God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:BillHughes@billhughes.com http://www.billhughes.com/jeep_bookmark.htm >>>>Funny thing, >>>> [quoted text clipped - 61 lines] > Give it up Cooyon, this was your last stand, and you lose again with > your Ancient Papyrus Writings. Hear, hear !!!! > Message-ID: <hY-dnTlNRKNK25DVnZ2dnUVZ_tjinZ2d@giganews.com> > I was required to take the officer's test, while in Advanced > Individual Training, which means I have a 59 IQ, and you didn't! > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O > mailto:BillHughes@billhughes.com > http://www.billhughes.com/jeep_bookmark.htm Signature"Enlisted men are stupid, but extremely cunning and sly, and bear considerable watching." -- Army Officer's Guide [snip] >> The noises I hear SEEM to come from the back end, but I'll keep the >> quick disconnects in mind. [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] >'96 XJ, >'06TJ. It's interesting that ULB has the same symptoms in his (already broken in?) TJ as I have in my XJ. Describing it as being similar to changing to Mud tires is a good way to say it. And although I am *hearing* the pulsing sounds, there is NO discernable vibrations to be felt at the transmission or XFR case shifters :/ My rear pinion points upwards, in line with the driveshaft. Then at the forward u-joint in makes a modest bend (I have yet to measure the angle) and goes into the XFR case (which I believe is still parallel to the ground, but I do have a lowering kit installed). This sounds wrong according to what you state above :( I haven't really looked at the FRONT, but I have no "death wobbles". I do know however, that my Castor angle is one degree beyond stock specs (9 degrees - stock is 5.x to 8). I need to take it back to the mechanic to investigate some rattles, so I plan on having him see if he can adjust it any better. TIA ... > My rear pinion points upwards, in line with the driveshaft. This would be correct if you have a SYE kit installed and a rear driveshaft with a CV joint. Also the output shafts of the transfer case, are not parallel to the ground. The Engine / Transmission / TC combo, is tilted to the back. When you lower the TC, or when you lift the engine, this angle is increased, so that it matches that of the rear pinion (non SYE transfer cases). Regards, Bill Spiliotopoulos. '96 XJ, '06 TJ. Torque lifts the driver's side: http://www.competitionplus.com/2005_02_03/photos/news/wheelstand_04.jpg God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:BillHughes@billhughes.com http://www.billhughes.com/jeep_bookmark.htm > Funny thing, > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > K. ** Posted from http://www.teranews.com ** > Torque lifts the driver's side: That's usually the case (but not always). OK, now tell us /why/ it does. And why in some cases it does not. > http://www.competitionplus.com/2005_02_03/photos/news/wheelstand_04.jpg > God Bless Crumbling America, Bill O|||||||O [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > ** Posted from http://www.teranews.com ** Signature"Enlisted men are stupid, but extremely cunning and sly, and bear considerable watching." -- Army Officer's Guide Well, in the GREAT USA, the torque causes the drivers side to lift while driving forward. but when you enter the Canadian twilight zone, everything is completely opposite. >> Torque lifts the driver's side: > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >> >> ** Posted from http://www.teranews.com ** > Well, in the GREAT USA, the torque causes the drivers side to lift while > driving forward. but when you enter the Canadian twilight zone, everything > is completely opposite. :^) Cute, but no cigar! >>> Torque lifts the driver's side: >> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >>> >>> ** Posted from http://www.teranews.com ** Signature"Enlisted men are stupid, but extremely cunning and sly, and bear considerable watching." -- Army Officer's Guide >> Well, in the GREAT USA, the torque causes the drivers side to lift while >> driving forward. but when you enter the Canadian twilight zone, everything [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >Cute, but no cigar! I did Cooyon a big favor the other day, someone asked my if he ate sh.t sandwiches, and I said hell no, he don't like bread! >>>> Torque lifts the driver's side: >>> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >>>> >>>> ** Posted from http://www.teranews.com ** Message-ID: <hY-dnTlNRKNK25DVnZ2dnUVZ_tjinZ2d@giganews.com> I was required to take the officer's test, while in Advanced Individual Training, which means I have a 59 IQ, and you didn't! God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:BillHughes@billhughes.com http://www.billhughes.com/jeep_bookmark.htm >>> Well, in the GREAT USA, the torque causes the drivers side to lift while >>> driving forward. but when you enter the Canadian twilight zone, everything [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > I did Cooyon a big favor the other day, someone asked my if he ate > sh.t sandwiches, and I said hell no, he don't like bread! Hey, I like that!!!! >>>>> Torque lifts the driver's side: >>>> [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > mailto:BillHughes@billhughes.com > http://www.billhughes.com/jeep_bookmark.htm Signature"Enlisted men are stupid, but extremely cunning and sly, and bear considerable watching." -- Army Officer's Guide This from the biggest spammer of them all! The jealous, really weak jealous retard using Linux, I can't believe how jealous this little draft dodging coward schizophrenic psychopath liar is hiding in Vancouver via S0106000ea6ba70e7.vn.shawcable.net 24.86.24.251 intrepidator@shaw.ca until I killed it. Then started using another IP of 24.80.200.127 s0106000ea6ba70e7.vc.shawcable.net and That's been killed by me and is now: 24.80.201.123 s0106000ea6ba70e7.vn.shawcable.net 64.59.135.176 then killed again by me in March of '08 and is now: 24.80.212.226 64.59.159.43 s0106000ea6ba70e7.vn.shawcable.net : http://billhughes.com/temp/SWimp.jpg Whose only way to get attention is to make a fool of its self using foul language, like it did back in elementary school yard. But, too afraid to use it's name and address, and take on responsibility like a grown up. With an obsession with perverts and goats, where it writes via remailers, @news.alt.net, and cross posts to other perverts to no one's surprise. With extreme jealous ranting over my documents, possessions, successes, manliness and fine, Southern California surfing body, beard, and loving Christian family: http://billhughes.com/ . Committing forgery over many of my posts, proving I'm a responsible American man. You remind me of a little rat dog, like a Mexican Chihuahua with its senseless barking, me too, me too. You're even more senile than I first thought. And the poor thing, you're too girlie to take responsibility for yourself again, by signing your statement like a man. That really thinks the group's members are so stupid not to know it's the same coward, posting over and over again using a schizophrenic psychopath forged up names? You're not worth any more time when a cut and paste this same paragraphs it fits so well! But, now worth a forwarding to: internet.help@shaw.ca, security@shaw.ca, abuse@shaw.ca, internet.abuse@sjrb.ca, abuse@aioe.org, admin@cox.net for forgery. Who said it also likes baby monkeys sucking their penis, like his buddy posted on an auto picture group at: news:0u7g43dkje4pdkqi07hl66s8kpifo564k1@4ax.com I thought this traitor's attacks were just over personal disagreements, but in reality these attacks stemming from my love of God and America on Independents Week, I realized you are actually attacking my country, and that's what you've been doing all along is declaring your hatred for the United States of America, with each declaration of my signature, but just too cowardly and stupid to be a terrorist. It's America, love it, or leave it, so keep the f*ck out! Or let me know when you cross my American border, so I may arrest you! YOU ARE A TRAITOR and lost all rights to my American border, and someday I'll have you in jail where you belong! Any time, I'll fly and meant with other patriots guarding our borders against vermin like you. Why don't you call the San Diego Sheriffs Department at 858-974-2020 YOU NEED HELP! The moral majority say you are not only faggots, but cowards You wouldn't know about business as you have never succeeded and anything. Tell me when you are about to cross my American border and I'll fly up and arrange at meeting with the U.S. Border patrol and Minutemen for your arrest, after you give me your name, address, date, and meeting place. I would appreciate the name and address of these trolls, Square Wheel: shaw.ca 24.80.201.123 and 24bit: 12.205.158.32 AT&T WorldNet Services ATT Mediacom Communications Corp. I will keep your name in confidence, kindly email LWHughes3rd@aol.com or LWHughes@hughes.net Sincerely, Llewellyn W. (Bill) Hughes III Fortunately it is against the law for you to own a firearm. You are the one that ran to Canada from your obligation to the U.S. Military! YOU ARE A TRAITOR and a COWARD!!!!!! My service to my Country is well documented http://billhughes.com/ARMY.htm You pathetic little schizophrenic psychopath, you make me laugh the way a girlie, faggot writes, lacking common sense, it gives me a feeling of extreme superiority! <ROTFLMAO> And you think the news members won't catch on and be able to see your pursuing fag names, as fake as you. Just making sure the faggots at: alt.binaries.pictures.autos, alt.binaries.automobile.pictures groups know what an a**hole you, aka SW really are!!!!! God, where do they find these REALLY STUPID queer traitors keep following me around? With even more jealous girlie maricón acosador gibberish/babbling You pathetic little schizophrenic psychopath, you make me laugh the way a girlie, faggot writes, it gives me a feeling of extreme superiority! <ROTFLMAO> Shaw promised me YOU would never do it again, of course that was you old 24.86.24.251 IP, wanta try for 24.80.200.127? I see I killed that one, too <ROTFLMAO> But somehow scum like you got another of 24.80.201.123. Hehehe, keep'em coming coward, :-) Maybe, use little more of your language, and pornography in an original post. I should snip your incoherent, uncontrolled jealous senile babbling, so as not to embarrass you again! NOT! :-) SWimp, I'm still waiting for your real name and address like any man would list. But then you're a But then you're a lying traitor of a coward the loser. God, I love making a fool out of you, in front of your groups!!!!! I wonder what the next award I get from Giganews will look like for making a fool out of you over, and over again: http://www.billhughes.com/temp/giganews.jpg Like to think of itself as an English major, but never graduated high school! Bullsh*t you and 24 faggot are as queer as they come it is the only reason you must stalk me at rec.autos.makers.jeep+willys and make these stupid little comments to each of my posts in an attempt to get my attention, you crave. I bet you're dreaming of sucking my penis, that's the only reason a faggot like you keep following me around. Your schizophrenic posts give me ammunition for my troll killer award presented by Giganews http://www.billhughes.com/temp/giganews.jpg for the fifteen thousand of you faggot's posts forwarded to alt.binaries.pictures.autos http://www.billhughes.com/temp/Superman.jpg My map proves just how stupid you are, unable to find the link from my home page. Please have your little faggot stop by and I'll treat you like a King: http://www.billhughes.com/map.htm One thing for sure you a faggot coward have the intestinal fortitude to talk to me face to face. <ROTFLMAO> Syphilis is rotting your brain, as easily seen in this incoherent babbling!!!!! Engine accelerates clock wise, forces an equal and opposite reaction force. Motorcycles and puny Japanese design cars, their engines sit sideways forcing the rear wheel down force, which of course unloads the front traction, making them useless in racing. God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:BillHughes@billhughes.com http://www.billhughes.com/thunderb.htm > That's usually the case (but not always). > > OK, now tell us /why/ it does. > > And why in some cases it does not. ** Posted from http://www.teranews.com ** > This from the biggest spammer of them all! The jealous, really weak > jealous retard using Linux, I can't believe how jealous this little draft [quoted text clipped - 104 lines] > Syphilis is rotting your brain, as easily seen in this incoherent > babbling!!!!! Is this ^^^^^^^ stuck in your computer? A permanent template maybe? Sure is dull and boring stuff. Illiterate, too. And lies, as well. > Engine accelerates clock wise, forces an equal and opposite reaction > force. Wrong-o, Billieboi. If that were true, then the passenger side would lift. > Motorcycles and puny Japanese design cars, their engines sit sideways > forcing the rear wheel down force, which of course unloads the front > traction, making them useless in racing. Wrong-o again. Explain then why there are so many race cars with transversely mounted engines, and so many racing bikes. You really don't know very much about cars, do you? > God Bless Africa, Bill O|||||||O > mailto:BillHughes@billhughes.com [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >> > ** Posted from http://www.teranews.com ** Signature"Enlisted men are stupid, but extremely cunning and sly, and bear considerable watching." -- Army Officer's Guide This from the biggest spammer of them all! The jealous, really weak jealous retard using Linux, I can't believe how jealous this little draft dodging coward schizophrenic psychopath liar is hiding in Vancouver via S0106000ea6ba70e7.vn.shawcable.net 24.86.24.251 intrepidator@shaw.ca until I killed it. Then started using another IP of 24.80.200.127 s0106000ea6ba70e7.vc.shawcable.net and That's been killed by me and is now: 24.80.201.123 s0106000ea6ba70e7.vn.shawcable.net 64.59.135.176 then killed again by me in March of '08 and is now: 24.80.212.226 64.59.159.43 s0106000ea6ba70e7.vn.shawcable.net : http://billhughes.com/temp/SWimp.jpg Whose only way to get attention is to make a fool of its self using foul language, like it did back in elementary school yard. But, too afraid to use it's name and address, and take on responsibility like a grown up. With an obsession with perverts and goats, where it writes via remailers, @news.alt.net, and cross posts to other perverts to no one's surprise. With extreme jealous ranting over my documents, possessions, successes, manliness and fine, Southern California surfing body, beard, and loving Christian family: http://billhughes.com/ . Committing forgery over many of my posts, proving I'm a responsible American man. You remind me of a little rat dog, like a Mexican Chihuahua with its senseless barking, me too, me too. You're even more senile than I first thought. And the poor thing, you're too girlie to take responsibility for yourself again, by signing your statement like a man. That really thinks the group's members are so stupid not to know it's the same coward, posting over and over again using a schizophrenic psychopath forged up names? You're not worth any more time when a cut and paste this same paragraphs it fits so well! But, now worth a forwarding to: internet.help@shaw.ca, security@shaw.ca, abuse@shaw.ca, internet.abuse@sjrb.ca, abuse@aioe.org, admin@cox.net for forgery. Who said it also likes baby monkeys sucking their penis, like his buddy posted on an auto picture group at: news:0u7g43dkje4pdkqi07hl66s8kpifo564k1@4ax.com I thought this traitor's attacks were just over personal disagreements, but in reality these attacks stemming from my love of God and America on Independents Week, I realized you are actually attacking my country, and that's what you've been doing all along is declaring your hatred for the United States of America, with each declaration of my signature, but just too cowardly and stupid to be a terrorist. It's America, love it, or leave it, so keep the f*ck out! Or let me know when you cross my American border, so I may arrest you! YOU ARE A TRAITOR and lost all rights to my American border, and someday I'll have you in jail where you belong! Any time, I'll fly and meant with other patriots guarding our borders against vermin like you. Why don't you call the San Diego Sheriffs Department at 858-974-2020 YOU NEED HELP! The moral majority say you are not only faggots, but cowards You wouldn't know about business as you have never succeeded and anything. Tell me when you are about to cross my American border and I'll fly up and arrange at meeting with the U.S. Border patrol and Minutemen for your arrest, after you give me your name, address, date, and meeting place. I would appreciate the name and address of these trolls, Square Wheel: shaw.ca 24.80.201.123 and 24bit: 12.205.158.32 AT&T WorldNet Services ATT Mediacom Communications Corp. I will keep your name in confidence, kindly email LWHughes3rd@aol.com or LWHughes@hughes.net Sincerely, Llewellyn W. (Bill) Hughes III Fortunately it is against the law for you to own a firearm. You are the one that ran to Canada from your obligation to the U.S. Military! YOU ARE A TRAITOR and a COWARD!!!!!! My service to my Country is well documented http://billhughes.com/ARMY.htm You pathetic little schizophrenic psychopath, you make me laugh the way a girlie, faggot writes, lacking common sense, it gives me a feeling of extreme superiority! <ROTFLMAO> And you think the news members won't catch on and be able to see your pursuing fag names, as fake as you. Just making sure the faggots at: alt.binaries.pictures.autos, alt.binaries.automobile.pictures groups know what an a**hole you, aka SW really are!!!!! God, where do they find these REALLY STUPID queer traitors keep following me around? With even more jealous girlie maricón acosador gibberish/babbling You pathetic little schizophrenic psychopath, you make me laugh the way a girlie, faggot writes, it gives me a feeling of extreme superiority! <ROTFLMAO> Shaw promised me YOU would never do it again, of course that was you old 24.86.24.251 IP, wanta try for 24.80.200.127? I see I killed that one, too <ROTFLMAO> But somehow scum like you got another of 24.80.201.123. Hehehe, keep'em coming coward, :-) Maybe, use little more of your language, and pornography in an original post. I should snip your incoherent, uncontrolled jealous senile babbling, so as not to embarrass you again! NOT! :-) SWimp, I'm still waiting for your real name and address like any man would list. But then you're a But then you're a lying traitor of a coward the loser. God, I love making a fool out of you, in front of your groups!!!!! I wonder what the next award I get from Giganews will look like for making a fool out of you over, and over again: http://www.billhughes.com/temp/giganews.jpg Like to think of itself as an English major, but never graduated high school! Bullsh*t you and 24 faggot are as queer as they come it is the only reason you must stalk me at rec.autos.makers.jeep+willys and make these stupid little comments to each of my posts in an attempt to get my attention, you crave. I bet you're dreaming of sucking my penis, that's the only reason a faggot like you keep following me around. Your schizophrenic posts give me ammunition for my troll killer award presented by Giganews http://www.billhughes.com/temp/giganews.jpg for the fifteen thousand of you faggot's posts forwarded to alt.binaries.pictures.autos http://www.billhughes.com/temp/Superman.jpg My map proves just how stupid you are, unable to find the link from my home page. Please have your little faggot stop by and I'll treat you like a King: http://www.billhughes.com/map.htm One thing for sure you a faggot coward have the intestinal fortitude to talk to me face to face. <ROTFLMAO> Again you prove just how stupid you are!!!!!! If you were smart, which way would you turn the hand crank to start this old Ford engine: http://www.billhughes.com/temp/handcrankFordV8.JPG The chain driven sidewinders went out in the fifties: Because the didn't go!!!!!! http://www.draglist.com/stories/SOD%20Sep%202000/SOD-091500.htm Syphilis is rotting your brain, as easily seen in this incoherent babbling!!!!! God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:BillHughes@billhughes.com > Is this ^^^^^^^ stuck in your computer? A permanent template maybe? > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > You really don't know very much about cars, do you? ** Posted from http://www.teranews.com ** > Again you prove just how stupid you are!!!!!! How, by posing questions you couldn't answer? Doofus. > If you were smart, The use of the subjunctive is a fallacious assumption on your part. I am, and so far ahead of you it's laughable. > which > way would you turn the hand crank to start this old Ford engine: > http://www.billhughes.com/temp/handcrankFordV8.JPG Down, obviously <arr! arr! arr!>. Irrelevant, Billieboi; it has nothing to do with the original question, which you still haven't answered. I asked first and you didn't answer, so it's still your turn. That's the way it works, Cooyon. Keep trying. > The chain driven sidewinders went out in the fifties: Because the > didn't go!!!!!! > http://www.draglist.com/stories/SOD%20Sep%202000/SOD-091500.htm Again, irrelevant; it has nothing to do with the original question. One does not answer a question by posing a different question. Not only is it considered extremely rude (not that you would care about that), it seldom provides the requested or required information. Keep trying, Bilieboi. Reread the original post as many times as necessary until you understand the question. I'll wait. (probably forever...) As I said before, you really know very little about cars. Or much of anything else. Signature"Enlisted men are stupid, but extremely cunning and sly, and bear considerable watching." -- Army Officer's Guide >> babbling!!!!! > [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > >You really don't know very much about cars, do you? I wonder who writes his stuff, Alfred E. Newman?? Message-ID: <hY-dnTlNRKNK25DVnZ2dnUVZ_tjinZ2d@giganews.com> I was required to take the officer's test, while in Advanced Individual Training, which means I have a 59 IQ, and you didn't! God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:BillHughes@billhughes.com http://www.billhughes.com/jeep_bookmark.htm >>> babbling!!!!! >> [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > I wonder who writes his stuff, Alfred E. Newman?? Nah. Alfred is far more intelligent. Maybe a protozoan? A spore? A bored amoeba? Or maybe just a soapdish..... > Message-ID: <hY-dnTlNRKNK25DVnZ2dnUVZ_tjinZ2d@giganews.com> > I was required to take the officer's test, while in Advanced > Individual Training, which means I have a 59 IQ, and you didn't! > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O > mailto:BillHughes@billhughes.com > http://www.billhughes.com/jeep_bookmark.htm Signature"Enlisted men are stupid, but extremely cunning and sly, and bear considerable watching." -- Army Officer's Guide >> Torque lifts the driver's side: > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >And why in some cases it does not. Hey Goatee, if the torque is on the driver's side, what side is the stress on??? >> http://www.competitionplus.com/2005_02_03/photos/news/wheelstand_04.jpg >> God Bless Crumbling America, Bill O|||||||O [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] >> >> ** Posted from http://www.teranews.com ** Message-ID: <hY-dnTlNRKNK25DVnZ2dnUVZ_tjinZ2d@giganews.com> I was required to take the officer's test, while in Advanced Individual Training, which means I have a 59 IQ, and you didn't! God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:BillHughes@billhughes.com http://www.billhughes.com/jeep_bookmark.htm
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