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Car Forum / Jeep / January 20044.56 gears in a Dana 30 front
I have an "88" wrangler with a Dana 35 rear and Dana 30 front. I currently have 3.55 gears in both diffs. and would like to put 4.56 gears in both. The literature I can find says that if I have 3.55 or lower gears in the D35, I will be ok. But what I need to know is if the 4.56 gears will fit in the D30 case? From what I can find it sounds like I'm going to need a housing with 3.73 or lower gears in it for the 4.56 to fit.I need to find out the real answer. Has anyone out there put 4.56 gears in these size housings? Any help or advice would be great. Tom Yes. I upgraded the stock 3.07 gearing to 4.56 in the D30 front and ran with that configuration for several years before replacing the entire front-end on my 92YJ. 4.56s will fit the D30. Terry. > I have an "88" wrangler with a Dana 35 rear and Dana 30 front. I > currently have 3.55 gears in both diffs. and would like to put 4.56 [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Any help or advice would be great. > Tom You will have to get a new carrier for the D30, been there, done that. -- JimG 80' CJ-7 258 CID 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries > I have an "88" wrangler with a Dana 35 rear and Dana 30 front. I > currently have 3.55 gears in both diffs. and would like to put 4.56 [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Any help or advice would be great. > Tom It's been a few years, but thinking back I'm sure I didn't have to replace the entire reverse-cut D30 carrier when I installed the 4.56 R&P because I installed a LockRight locker at the same time, which replaces the side and spider gears. Didn't your LockRight install go this way too? Terry 92YJ (now running dual D60s w/Detroits) > You will have to get a new carrier for the D30, been there, done that. > [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > Any help or advice would be great. > > Tom If original gear is higher that 3.73, the carrier has to be replaced. My original gear was 3.07. I had to replace the carriers in both front and rear. JimG > It's been a few years, but thinking back I'm sure I didn't have to replace > the entire reverse-cut D30 carrier when I installed the 4.56 R&P because I [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > > Any help or advice would be great. > > > Tom My original gear was 3.07 too, but I'm certain I did not have to replace the D30 carrier in conjunction with using the LockRite. Maybe this is a difference in the stock '80 vs '92 D30? Terry. > If original gear is higher that 3.73, the carrier has to be replaced. My > original gear was 3.07. I had to replace the carriers in both front and [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > > > > Any help or advice would be great. > > > > Tom I don't think there is any difference - all internal parts are the same. Did you see Bill's list? http://www.billhughes.com/tooth_count.txt JimG > My original gear was 3.07 too, but I'm certain I did not have to replace the > D30 carrier in conjunction with using the LockRite. Maybe this is a [quoted text clipped - 43 lines] > > > > > Any help or advice would be great. > > > > > Tom I can't imagine going from 3.07 to 4.56 without needing a new carrier in any Dana axle. I believe any ratio 3.73 or lower (lower meaning 4.10, 4.56, etc.) needs a new carrier, even in something that old. My TJ's non-reverse cut D30 sure did when I went from 3.55 to 4.10... but I kept the same carrier when converting from 4.10 to 4.88 earlier this year.  Signature-- Jerry Bransford To email, remove 'me' from my email address KC6TAY, PP-ASEL See the Geezer Jeep at http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ > I don't think there is any difference - all internal parts are the same. > Did you see Bill's list? [quoted text clipped - 57 lines] > > > > > > Any help or advice would be great. > > > > > > Tom I agree with you, Jerry. JimG > I can't imagine going from 3.07 to 4.56 without needing a new carrier in any > Dana axle. I believe any ratio 3.73 or lower (lower meaning 4.10, 4.56, [quoted text clipped - 74 lines] > > > > > > > Any help or advice would be great. > > > > > > > Tom Hey guys, I'm not suggesting anybody is wrong. All I'm saying is I don't recall having to replace the carrier in my D30 whenever I made this swap back in spring of '96. The 4.56 ring bolted onto the stock carrier, and I used it until about 4 months ago. If I hadn't taken the old D30 to salvage last month, I'd go open it up and take a look. Both the CJ and the TJ use a non-reverse cut D30, whereas the YJ uses a reverse-cut. Maybe this is the difference -- I don't know. One thing is for sure: either it fit the stock carrier on my 92YJ or all those brain cells I destroyed at a younger age is starting to catch up with me!! :) Cheers, Terry. > I can't imagine going from 3.07 to 4.56 without needing a new carrier in any > Dana axle. I believe any ratio 3.73 or lower (lower meaning 4.10, 4.56, [quoted text clipped - 66 lines] > > > > > > > Any help or advice would be great. > > > > > > > Tom It's the type of thing a friend may swap without saying a thing, a used carrier, is a used carrier, no skin off his nose, he'll probably swap it for a carrier the broken spiders butchered on another job, still not saying a thing. One thing for sure, the Dana 30 carrier changes between 3.54 and 3.73. God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ > Hey guys, I'm not suggesting anybody is wrong. All I'm saying is I don't > recall having to replace the carrier in my D30 whenever I made this swap [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Cheers, > Terry. Yup, I agree with that. Thing is though, Bill, I did all the install work myself and I still don't recall replacing the carrier. And I've always prided myself with a having pretty good memory (until now)!! Oh yea, my brother-in-law did assist with the install (only cost me a few beers). Terry. > It's the type of thing a friend may swap without saying a thing, a > used carrier, is a used carrier, no skin off his nose, he'll probably [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Cheers, > > Terry. > Yup, I agree with that. Thing is though, Bill, I did all the install work > myself and I still don't recall replacing the carrier. And I've always > prided myself with a having pretty good memory (until now)!! Oh yea, my > brother-in-law did assist with the install (only cost me a few beers). > > Terry. All those drugs you did as a kid are starting to catch up with you. You had to replace the carrier or the 4.56 ring gear would not have fit. > All those drugs you did as a kid are starting to catch up with you. You had > to replace the carrier or the 4.56 ring gear would not have fit. That seems to be the consensus! :). If so, I should still have the old carrier in my pile of Jeep parts. When I get over this head cold and the outside temp gets above 20 degrees I might go search for it. By the way - no drugs for me, my friend. Drinking heavily used to be the routine though, especially during my college and military years. The good old days! Terry. > > All those drugs you did as a kid are starting to catch up with you. You > had [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > routine though, especially during my college and military years. The good > old days! Ah yes, the Good Old Days. "If you remember the sixties, you weren't really there." -Robbin Williams God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ > Ah yes, the Good Old Days. Hello, I just left the local 4 Wheel Drive Wholesalers shop and they told me I definitely need a new carrier, and my current lock-right locker will work just fine with the new carrier. I guess the bolt pattern or something is different, the new carrier is around $200.00 plus cost of the new gear set and master install kit. Thanks for for the feedback and advice! Tom > Hey guys, I'm not suggesting anybody is wrong. All I'm saying is I don't > recall having to replace the carrier in my D30 whenever I made this swap [quoted text clipped - 84 lines] > > > > > > > > Any help or advice would be great. > > > > > > > > Tom Sounds good, Tom. But that price sounds a little high for the carrier. What size tires are you planning to run with those 4.56s? Terry. > Hello, > I just left the local 4 Wheel Drive Wholesalers shop and they told me [quoted text clipped - 93 lines] > > > > > > > > > Any help or advice would be great. > > > > > > > > > Tom Hi Terry, Supply and demand, if he was going the other way he'd get a used carrier for free. Tom's running a Dana 35c with the 4.56 smaller opinion, far less than 32" tires or he'll be sending me pictures to: http://www.billhughes.com/dana35c/ God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com > Sounds good, Tom. But that price sounds a little high for the carrier. > What size tires are you planning to run with those 4.56s? > > Terry. Bill (or anyone else with axle breakage experience/knowledge), In those pics from the link you posted, I noticed a lot of the jeeps had bars or branches strapped to the wheel with the broken axle, likely in order to hold it "in" to the vehicle and not let it slide on out of the axle carrier tube. My question: Is this some sort of "trail fix" for a broken axle for when you don't have a replacement axleshaft on hand, that will possibly allow you to limp the vehicle out? Or is this just a piece in the process of forcing the axle/a new axle INTO the carrier when replacing/repairing the breakage? What IS a good trail fix for this sort of problem? IS there any way to "fix" this temporarily for those of us who don't carry spare axleshafts? I haven't had this sort of problem, thank goodness, but it would be nice to know how best to handle it BEFORE it becomes an issue... L.W.(ßill) Hughes III <billhughes@cox.net> wrote in message news:<3FF11078.65B5752D@cox.net>... > Hi Terry, > Supply and demand, if he was going the other way he'd get a used [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > > > Terry. The tree trunk is there to hold the axle in so you can limp it back to camp (or where-ever). You probably want to put your spare on so as not to ruin your good tire. Also have your co-pilot pure oil on periodically. On the D35, that's all you can do if you don't have a spare axle. -- JimG 80' CJ-7 258 CID 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries > Bill (or anyone else with axle breakage experience/knowledge), > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > L.W.(?ill) Hughes III <billhughes@cox.net> wrote in message news:<3FF11078.65B5752D@cox.net>... > > Hi Terry, > > Supply and demand, if he was going the other way he'd get a used [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > > > > > Terry. Ok, that's kinda what I thought. You mention, though, that this is all you can do with a D35 if you don't have a spare axle...I actually have a 44 in the rear, 30 in the front. Are there other options for my setup, should I ever break one of these axles, and not have a spare w/me? Thanks! > The tree trunk is there to hold the axle in so you can limp it back to camp > (or where-ever). You probably want to put your spare on so as not to ruin [quoted text clipped - 43 lines] > > > > > > > > Terry. The Dana 44's axle won't fall out if it breaks, it being held in via a pressed on bearing like the Real Jeeps. God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ > Ok, that's kinda what I thought. You mention, though, that this is all > you can do with a D35 if you don't have a spare axle...I actually have [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Thanks! The Super 35 kit uses a pressed in tapered bearing so when I snap one of my new Chromolly Alloy axles, the wheel should stay on long enough to get home. Tom L.W.(ßill) Hughes III <billhughes@cox.net> wrote in message news:<3FF9C709.6511003D@cox.net>... > The Dana 44's axle won't fall out if it breaks, it being held in > via a pressed on bearing like the Real Jeeps. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > > > Thanks! > The Super 35 kit uses a pressed in tapered bearing so when I snap one > of my new Chromolly Alloy axles, the wheel should stay on long enough > to get home. Not really, there's no bearing retainer plate that will hold things together. It's still a c-clip design, although the axle shaft is much much stronger, so if the shaft breaks, you're still screwed. Jerry -- Jerry Bransford To email, remove 'me' from my email address KC6TAY, PP-ASEL See the Geezer Jeep at http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ > Tom > > L.W.(?ill) Hughes III <billhughes@cox.net> wrote in message news:<3FF9C709.6511003D@cox.net>... > > The Dana 44's axle won't fall out if it breaks, it being held in > > via a pressed on bearing like the Real Jeeps. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > > > > > Thanks! >> The Super 35 kit uses a pressed in tapered bearing so when I snap one >> of my new Chromolly Alloy axles, the wheel should stay on long enough [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > together. It's still a c-clip design, although the axle shaft is much > much stronger, so if the shaft breaks, you're still screwed. Yup, if the Super 35 kit eliminated the C clips and the tendency of a broken axle to exit the housing, I would order one tomorrow. If I am going to put that kind of money into a D-35 I at least expect to get a better retention system. Otherwise, I'd rather wait and spend a bit more on a D-44. ---------------------------------------------------- Del Rawlins- del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org Remove _kills_spammers_ to reply via email. Unofficial Bearhawk FAQ website: http://www.rawlinsbrothers.org/bhfaq/ Hey Guys, I hope that you won't mind my stepping in with a slightly different, although related, question: I have a 01 XJ, stock Upcountry Pkg, 5sp tranny with the basic steel wheels. I *think* that this means that, like the OP in this conversation, I have the D30/35 3.56 differentials. I've changed my tires to beef up the sidewalls and clearance for my occasional forays into rock, such as one might encounter on the passes of Colorado. (I do a bit of backcountry skiing in the Springtime; this took me over Cinnamon Pass and to Ophir Pass, e.g., last season just after both roads were opened.) These new tires are 30x9.5LT tires, and they've changed my driveline ratio enough that I'm having trouble maintaining my engine revs on the mountain roads I regularly drive, so I'm considering a differential gear ratio change. Now for the questions part: (1) What is the recommended source/parts manufacturer for what I'm trying to do? (2) Assuming I do go through with things, does anyone have a recommendation on how far to go? Does a 4:10 differential make sense for my application? I probably only rarely drive over 80mph, but I'd rather not have to be at 3k rpm to achieve this speed on the highway for long timeframes. Also, will a 4:10 even fit in my diff cases? (3) My rear differential is of the stock pseudo limited slip variety (Traclok?). Does it make sense at this time to consider going with a more capable limited slip product? How about on the front too? Many thanks to all for any suggestions you might have... cheers, john Hi John, (1)I usually order via Summit: http://store.summitracing.com/default.asp?target=search.asp&type=bykeyword&searc htype=both&part=ring+and+pinion&x=12&y=5 (2) http://www.4wheelparts.com:80/Tirel_Gear_Ratio.asp (3) You will need to change carrier sizes, so your Trac-Lok won't work: http://billhughes.com/tooth_count.txt God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ > Hey Guys, > [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > cheers, > john What engine do you have? That's a very important factor to consider when doing a gear ratio change. -- JimG 80' CJ-7 258 CID 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries > Hey Guys, > [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > cheers, > john I would guess the six as the four would have come stock with the 4.10 ratio. God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ > What engine do you have? That's a very important factor to consider when > doing a gear ratio change. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks > Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries Right you are, Bill... I just thought 3.56 was odd. JimG > I would guess the six as the four would have come stock with the > 4.10 ratio. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks > > Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries >Right you are, Bill... I just thought 3.56 was odd. >JimG For all intents and purposes, 3.56 would be close enough to 3.55. And the OP should be sure he has the Dana 35 rear, many, if not most, XJ's had the Mopar 8.25" rear. * * * Matt Macchiarolo www.townpeddler.com www.wolverine4wd.org http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html Hey All, I'm really sorry for having missed all of your helpful responses. As I explained to Bill, my isp's news server has yet to see them, and I've had to switch news servers. So, the answers: (1) Yes, I've got a 4.0 six; (2) I'm pretty sure about the D35, but I'll double check this evening and get back to you. Thanks again for your help, and your patience. cheers, john Hey All, A quick follow-up... >>Right you are, Bill... I just thought 3.56 was odd. >>JimG > >For all intents and purposes, 3.56 would be close enough to 3.55. And the OP >should be sure he has the Dana 35 rear, many, if not most, XJ's had the Mopar >8.25" rear. I was incorrect: my 01 XJ 5sp manual does indeed come with a Mopar 8.25" rear differential, and the gear ratios are 3.07:1. Yikes, no wonder I'm having problems with the 30" tires! Anyway, I've pretty much decided to lower that ratio to 3.73 and to upgrade my rear Traclok to an Auburn limited-slip system. (Based on Bill's post, the chart on ratios seems to indicate that 3.73 will still yield a lower ratio than came stock, and I was happy with that for my application.) Regardless, all of this still leaves me with still more questions: (1) I drive mostly highway mountain (my house is at 7500ft, with town around 5000) miles, and have 4wd to deal primarily with ice and snow conditions on these roads. Should I consider moving from an open front diff to a limited slip? What are some of the things I should consider in making that decision? (2) Finally, is, in the opinion of your esteemed group, 3.73 low enough, or should I consider going with a 4.10? many thanks again, john "John Red-Horse" wrote in message: >Hey All, > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Anyway, I've pretty much decided to lower that ratio to 3.73 Wouldn't that be a "higher ratio", which of course yields a lower gear? (hear we go again :-) > Regardless, all of this still leaves me with still more questions: > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > diff to a limited slip? What are some of the things I should consider in > making that decision? Does it go good enough now? Do you intend to do any off-road? A lLocked or limited slip front can cause handling/steering issues in snow and ice. > (2) Finally, is, in the opinion of your esteemed group, 3.73 low enough, > or should I consider going with a 4.10? Do you ever intend to go bigger than 30" tires? If not 3.73 with the 4.0 would be fine. SignatureJimG 80' CJ-7, 258 CID 35" BFG MT's on 15x10 Centerlines 4.56 D30-D44 SOA D300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks Warn 8000i w/dual batteries LockRight F&R >Does it go good enough now? I've had no complaints thus far, but I've never had it stuck either (I'm pretty conservative). I guess what I was asking is whether or not going limited slip would make my set-up more bullet-proof. > Do you intend to do any off-road? A lLocked or >limited slip front can cause handling/steering issues in snow and ice. I do take it off-road, but only as a means to get somewhere; I am not going to make this vehicle a rock crawler. Your last statement gets at the crux of the matter: I know that a locker will affect handling in slick conditions; I didn't know if that was the case for limited-slip. >Do you ever intend to go bigger than 30" tires? If not 3.73 with the 4.0 >would be fine. I cannot imagine going to bigger tires. Thanks for all of your advice; it's really been helpful. cheers, john Carry a spare axle. God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ > Bill (or anyone else with axle breakage experience/knowledge), > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > would be nice to know how best to handle it BEFORE it becomes an > issue... Thanks. I'll remember that. ;-) Really, I wish I could carry spares for all the things I might possibly break on the trail. Unfortunately, my pocketbook doesn't always allow for that (not to mention, buying spare parts for things I already have isn't nearly as fun as buying altogether new items to further improve my jeep!) L.W.(ßill) Hughes III <billhughes@cox.net> wrote in message news:<3FF62ADA.828F8AFF@cox.net>... > Carry a spare axle. > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > would be nice to know how best to handle it BEFORE it becomes an > > issue... I'm already running 35's on the jeep and have been for close to a year. The gearing is way to high but with a 4.2l w/fuel inj. and headers, it has enough power to fake it until I put the new gears in. I guess I should shop around for a better deal on the carrier since several of you guys think $200 is way too much. Tom > Sounds good, Tom. But that price sounds a little high for the carrier. > What size tires are you planning to run with those 4.56s? [quoted text clipped - 123 lines] > > > > > > > > > > Any help or advice would be great. > > > > > > > > > > Tom How about $59.95 http://www.tellico4x4.com/axle/fdd30yj.htm JimG > I guess I should shop around for a better deal on the carrier since > several of you guys think $200 is way too much. > Tom The shop's not just quoting a carrier, there must be a bearing and shim kit in there too. God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ jig wrote: > How about $59.95 > http://www.tellico4x4.com/axle/fdd30yj.htm > > JimG I don't know they were quoting me, but Tellco just got my business. Happy New Year to all! L.W.(ßill) Hughes III <billhughes@cox.net> wrote in message news:<3FF3045E.FAAE8113@cox.net>... > The shop's not just quoting a carrier, there must be a bearing and > shim kit in there too. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > > > JimG Jim, Thanks for the tip on the listed webpage, I just ordered one. I also ordered the high strength cross shaft that my local off road place said they couldn't get! > How about $59.95 > http://www.tellico4x4.com/axle/fdd30yj.htm [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > several of you guys think $200 is way too much. > > Tom The surface where the ring gear is bolted to the carrier is moved over to meat the smaller pinion. God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ > Hello, > I just left the local 4 Wheel Drive Wholesalers shop and they told me [quoted text clipped - 101 lines] > > > > > > > > > Any help or advice would be great. > > > > > > > > > Tom $200 for the new carrier???!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha, those guys are just yankin' your chain... or if they're serious, they're giving you a royal reaming. I never paid more than $60 for a brand new carrier in my life and that includes for the Dana 30 that I bought my last carrier for. Jerry -- Jerry Bransford To email, remove 'me' from my email address KC6TAY, PP-ASEL See the Geezer Jeep at http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ > Hello, > I just left the local 4 Wheel Drive Wholesalers shop and they told me [quoted text clipped - 93 lines] > > > > > > > > > Any help or advice would be great. > > > > > > > > > Tom Jim, Yes, I saw Bill's list, and believe it to be absolutely correct -- that you will have to replace the carrier in most cases. But I'm also sure that replacing the carrier is not necessary if one is to also install a LockRight at the same time, since installation of the LockRight replaces the spider and side gears that live inside the carrier. These new LockRight spider and side gears are specifically for a given gearing. Taking out the stock carrier, I removed the 3.07 ring gear, removed the roll pin & cross shaft, dropped out the old spider/side gears, bolted the new 4.56 ring gear down on the stock carrier, installed the LockRight into the carrier (with the new spider/side gears), reinstalled the carrier in the D30, and all was well. Thanks, Terry. > I don't think there is any difference - all internal parts are the same. > Did you see Bill's list? [quoted text clipped - 57 lines] > > > > > > Any help or advice would be great. > > > > > > Tom The Lock Right has nothing to do with the ring, pinion, and carrier combination, it simply replaces the spider gears. The Lock Right part number is based on the axle and spline count, not the gear ratio. The 4.56 ring gear/pinion combination will not fit on the 3.07 carrier. There are other locker systems that replace the carrier, but I am not familiar with them. http://www.powertrax.com/lrinst.htm JimG > Jim, > [quoted text clipped - 78 lines] > > > > > > > Any help or advice would be great. > > > > > > > Tom My 4.56 ring gear did fit on the stock carrier, and I successfully used the combination I speak of for about 6 years, Jim. I know I'm not hallucinating (today) :)) Terry. > The Lock Right has nothing to do with the ring, pinion, and carrier > combination, it simply replaces the spider gears. The Lock Right part [quoted text clipped - 96 lines] > > > > > > > > Any help or advice would be great. > > > > > > > > Tom The issue with the carrier is that the Ring gear won't fit the carrier for taller than 3.73s. > It's been a few years, but thinking back I'm sure I didn't have to replace > the entire reverse-cut D30 carrier when I installed the 4.56 R&P because I [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > > Any help or advice would be great. > > > Tom Thanks for chiming in CRWLR... can't seem to convince Terry. JimG > The issue with the carrier is that the Ring gear won't fit the carrier for > taller than 3.73s. [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > > > > Any help or advice would be great. > > > > Tom Hi Tom, The Dana 30 will need a carrier change: http://www.billhughes.com/tooth_count.txt Now is the time to invest rear axle upgrade, because the 35's pinion will be too small for even stock tires: http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/Axle.html Or take a camera with you so you may add to my site at: http://www.billhughes.com/dana35c/ God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com > I have an "88" wrangler with a Dana 35 rear and Dana 30 front. I > currently have 3.55 gears in both diffs. and would like to put 4.56 [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Any help or advice would be great. > Tom Hey Bill, Thanks for the advice, I'm planning on a super 35 kit for the rear, I know it's not the ideal choice, but I got a great deal on one. I'm sure at some point I'll need to cough up some real dollars and put a 44 in the front and rear. I'm building the rig as I go along and upgrading in small steps as "spare" cash comes available. Thanks again to everyone for your knowlege and advice! Tom L.W.(ßill) Hughes III <billhughes@cox.net> wrote in message news:<3FEF2581.94A972D0@cox.net>... > Hi Tom, > The Dana 30 will need a carrier change: [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Any help or advice would be great. > > Tom The Ring and Pinion gears will fit just fine in the D30, the problem - poor choice of words - is that the carrier won't accept the larger Ring gear. You simply need to buy a new carrier as well as the gear set that you want. > I have an "88" wrangler with a Dana 35 rear and Dana 30 front. I > currently have 3.55 gears in both diffs. and would like to put 4.56 [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Any help or advice would be great. > Tom |
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