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Doors and top off in Canada!  Yee Haw!

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Mike Romain - 15 Apr 2004 17:42 GMT
Wow is is so nice out right now and supposed to get nicer!

Couldn't resist got the doors and top off and am off for a cruise to get
a hub.

I 'really' want to go camping for the weekend, it's calling for +15C....

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Joseph P - 15 Apr 2004 18:06 GMT
| Wow is is so nice out right now and supposed to get nicer!
|
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| 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
| 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

You can do that in Canada??  Doors/top off I mean...lol, j/k

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cooper - 15 Apr 2004 19:28 GMT
Woo hoo, we're right behind you! This weekend is supposed to be amazing;
after a long cold winter it sure does put a spring in your step at the first
sign of nice weather. (no pun intended there... sort of)

coop

it's almost 60 degrees here today; looks like the windows are coming off
tonight, at least!

> Wow is is so nice out right now and supposed to get nicer!
>
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> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
twaldron - 15 Apr 2004 20:36 GMT
Cold? You don't know cold! It a freezing 75C here in Texas
today...BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!

> Woo hoo, we're right behind you! This weekend is supposed to be amazing;
> after a long cold winter it sure does put a spring in your step at the first
> sign of nice weather. (no pun intended there... sort of)
>
> coop

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03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology:  from g. p. (G= 'Government'  P= '80 inch wheelbase')
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1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
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c - 15 Apr 2004 20:43 GMT
LOL, I hope you meant 75F. We haven't seen 70F yet this year in Michigan's
Upper Peninsula, but it's supposed to get there tomorrow as long as the wind
doesn't blow across Green Bay which still has ice floating around out there.

Chris

> Cold? You don't know cold! It a freezing 75C here in Texas
> today...BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!
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> > coop
twaldron - 15 Apr 2004 21:26 GMT
DOH! Thanks for that. Yes, Fahrenheit!  Though it does get a mite torrid
here.

> LOL, I hope you meant 75F. We haven't seen 70F yet this year in Michigan's
> Upper Peninsula, but it's supposed to get there tomorrow as long as the wind
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>>>coop

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03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology:  from g. p. (G= 'Government'  P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

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cooper - 15 Apr 2004 21:17 GMT
Wow! That must've called for a light jacket, or maybe a sweater-vest? ;)

The flipside of that is we never have to persevere through a 120 degree day
either, though... 'Real Jeep' or not I'd be insisting on some sort of air
conditioning!

coop

> Cold? You don't know cold! It a freezing 75C here in Texas
> today...BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!
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L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III - 15 Apr 2004 22:03 GMT
    I have 2/70 air conditioning, two doors off, seventy miles an hour.
       God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/

> Wow! That must've called for a light jacket, or maybe a sweater-vest? ;)
>
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>
> coop
twaldron - 15 Apr 2004 22:31 GMT
Heh heh! I wanna see video of that dune buggy doing 70!  :)

L.W.(ßill) Hughes III wrote:

>      I have 2/70 air conditioning, two doors off, seventy miles an hour.
>         God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
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>>coop

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03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology:  from g. p. (G= 'Government'  P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

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L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III - 15 Apr 2004 22:53 GMT
    Within three seconds, trouble is no video camera can take it.
       God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/

> Heh heh! I wanna see video of that dune buggy doing 70!  :)
twaldron - 15 Apr 2004 23:14 GMT
Maybe we can use satellite imagery?

L.W.(ßill) Hughes III wrote:

>      Within three seconds, trouble is no video camera can take it.
>         God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/
>
>>Heh heh! I wanna see video of that dune buggy doing 70!  :)

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03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology:  from g. p. (G= 'Government'  P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

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Cherokee-LTD - 16 Apr 2004 09:12 GMT
: > Heh heh! I wanna see video of that dune buggy doing 70!  :)

"L.W. (?ill) Hughes III" wrote:
:      Within three seconds, trouble is no video camera can take it.
:         God Bless America, ?ill O|||||||O

Wow Bill, I could smell your post before I read it!

The McLaren F1, Saleen F7, Ferrari Enzo and Koenigsegg CC can't even do 0-60
under 3.2
http://www.modernracer.com/features/worldsfastestcars4.html
What's your secret... the sand paddles?

-Brian
c - 16 Apr 2004 13:09 GMT
> : > Heh heh! I wanna see video of that dune buggy doing 70!  :)
>
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>
> -Brian

None of the cars you mentioned were spinning their tires at 70mph in the
sand and actually moving at 20mph. ;-)

Chris
L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III - 16 Apr 2004 16:38 GMT
Hi Brian,
    Well of course I'm going to exaggerate a little, but I'll still be
in the three seconds on a drag strip where I can hook up. Remember
you're comparing me will sports cars, that are built for cornering, in
slalom type racing, their heavier than I and have smaller engines, and
pulling one gravity is nothing. You know dragsters pull over six
gravitates. My CJ-2A weights in at seventeen hundred pounds powered by
the Siamese Chevy small four hundred inch, four bolt, steel crank, using
a three hundred and thirty degree duration, half inch lift Iskenderian,
Edelbrock and 850 CFM Holley, ten and half FI Slant heads, three hundred
and fifty pound closed springs, 2 1/8" ID by 32" each tuned for six
grand Hookers, eleven and a half inch Scheifer, Lakewood scattershield,
M-22 Muncie, Dana 20, Ford nine inch with 5.38s, hundred and fifty horse
nitrous. I don't know, maybe my eighty foot may be quicker. :-)
http://www.billhughes.com/pismo.htm
       God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com

> Wow Bill, I could smell your post before I read it!
>
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>
> -Brian
Cherokee-LTD - 17 Apr 2004 14:08 GMT
Keep trying Bill, I have the air freshener ready. 1700 lbs with 5.38's... do
you have wheelie bars on your "real Jeep" in the event that you *could* hook
up on a strip?
-Brian

: Hi Brian,
:      Well of course I'm going to exaggerate a little, but I'll still be
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: >
: > -Brian
Nick N - 17 Apr 2004 16:37 GMT
been topless in Arizona for about a month and a half now...
(sorry, ducking for cover!)
Nick

> Keep trying Bill, I have the air freshener ready. 1700 lbs with 5.38's... do
> you have wheelie bars on your "real Jeep" in the event that you *could* hook
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> : >
> : > -Brian
L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III - 17 Apr 2004 21:36 GMT
    You be wet today.
       God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/

> been topless in Arizona for about a month and a half now...
> (sorry, ducking for cover!)
> Nick
L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III - 17 Apr 2004 21:34 GMT
    I didn't have wheelie bars on my motorcycles either.
       God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/

> Keep trying Bill, I have the air freshener ready. 1700 lbs with 5.38's... do
> you have wheelie bars on your "real Jeep" in the event that you *could* hook
> up on a strip?
> -Brian
L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III - 15 Apr 2004 19:40 GMT
    Fifty nine degrees: http://www.2spi.com/spitemp.html With this
global warming you're going to lose your igloo home, sorry.
       God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/

> Wow is is so nice out right now and supposed to get nicer!
>
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> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Cherokee-LTD - 15 Apr 2004 20:38 GMT
Hey Mike, you're welcome to pitch a tent in my backyard and supervise my
lift install this weekend!
-Brian

: Wow is is so nice out right now and supposed to get nicer!
:
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: 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
: 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Mike Romain - 15 Apr 2004 21:58 GMT
I was just reading one of the local Jeep boards and it looks like a mud
run is happening for Sun/ Mon and maybe Sat too...  Hmm....

You aren't anywhere up near Bobcaygeon eh?

Mike

> Hey Mike, you're welcome to pitch a tent in my backyard and supervise my
> lift install this weekend!
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> : 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> : 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Cherokee-LTD - 16 Apr 2004 09:35 GMT
: I was just reading one of the local Jeep boards and it looks like a mud
: run is happening for Sun/ Mon and maybe Sat too...  Hmm....
:
: You aren't anywhere up near Bobcaygeon eh?

Nope, In London.. I'm off work all week with cold beer in the fridge!
I'm sooo looking forward to tackling those vintage Ontario front eye bolts
and the bar bin bolts. I have a feeling I'll be posting frequently during
the process... like therapy.
-Brian
Steve - 15 Apr 2004 21:10 GMT
> Wow is is so nice out right now and supposed to get nicer!
>
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> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Lucky you. Out here in Nova Scotia we're looking at freezing rain and a
high of +1C.

Last weekend was nice. Despite washouts, mud holes, and lingering snow
(still knee-deep in the shade), the old XJ had no trouble hauling the
kids back to the camp for a little fishing:

  http://geocities.com/snatchbuckle/20040409/

Whether you're spring over or spring under, spring has sprung.

Steve
Mike Romain - 15 Apr 2004 21:14 GMT
> > Wow is is so nice out right now and supposed to get nicer!
> >
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>
> Steve

Give it a couple days, it's heading your way!

Nice shots, where are they taken?

Mike
Steve - 15 Apr 2004 21:35 GMT
>>   http://geocities.com/snatchbuckle/20040409/
>
> Give it a couple days, it's heading your way!

The fly rod is ready.

> Nice shots, where are they taken?

Humtagut Creek in western Lunenburg County. Empties into the Medway River.

Steve
Adonis - 16 Apr 2004 02:41 GMT
> > Wow is is so nice out right now and supposed to get nicer!
> >
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>
> Steve

What lift/tire combo you got there?
31s on 4"?

Dig how it looks, might do it to my XJ
Steve - 16 Apr 2004 05:38 GMT
> "Steve" <xjlifter@bogus.com> wrote in message
>>   http://geocities.com/snatchbuckle/20040409/
>
> What lift/tire combo you got there? 31s on 4"?
> Dig how it looks, might do it to my XJ

Thanks. I dig how it works.

The lift is Rubicon Express 4.5" Super-Flex lift with full leafs
(RE6130). When I ordered the kit, I added a drop pitman arm (RE2500) to
improve the steering geometry and I upgraded to the heavy duty track bar
(RE1660) and bracket (RE1665) for better durability and flex. My dealer
upgraded the sway bar disconnects to JKS quickers for no charge.

At 4.5", driveline vibrations can be a problem. The best solution is a
fixed t-case yoke and double cardan shaft. For me, that wasn't required
but I did have to drop the t-case 3/4" and lower my rear pinion angle by
a few degrees to cancel the vibes. I also had to grind out the armpits
on the slip yoke to avoid binding the drive shaft u-joint when the rear
axle is at full drop. This works fine but RE sells a long yoke (RE1822)
that is even better in that it also has longer travel on the splines.
Some day I'll get a fixed yoke for the extra strength and improved
pinion clearance but for now I'm good to go.

The tires are BF Goodrich MT/KM 33x10.50R15. I like them. I'm running
them on the stock 15x7" wheels. The stock backspacing (5.25"?) makes for
some tire rub on the lower control arms at full turn, but its no big deal.

To fit the tires, I had to remove the wheel well liners and trim about
an inch of the sheet metal that hangs below the fender flares (front and
rear). Easy to do and I now have plenty of clearance. At extreme flex,
the stuffed front tire will wipe the mud from the column over the coil
spring. This is due to the deep backspacing and again, no big deal. As
the budget allows, I'll go with 15x8 wheels with 4.5" backspacing.

I replaced my 3.07 ring & pinion gears with 4.10s salvaged from a junked
'86 Cherokee 4-cyl. Many prefer 4.56 for 33" tires, but with a 5-speed
and frequent highway driving, this low-buck solution works for me.

Make sure you have all the bases covered when you plan your lift.

Steve
Adonis - 16 Apr 2004 17:42 GMT
> > "Steve" <xjlifter@bogus.com> wrote in message
> >>   http://geocities.com/snatchbuckle/20040409/
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>
> Steve

Thanks a ton for all the info!

Adonis
Andyman - 16 Apr 2004 00:51 GMT
70's today and looking for a great weekend in Middle Tennessee!!!
Andyman
> Wow is is so nice out right now and supposed to get nicer!
>
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> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
 
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