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L.A. Jeepster - 22 Apr 2004 00:14 GMT
I'm finally graduating from the hibachi grill to something I can throw a
whole cow on.  Or at least the neigbors cat, if I ever had the opportunity.
In other words, I'm buying a big grill this weekend.

Anyway, I don't really know if I'm a charcoal man or a gas man.  I'm hoping
that hearing some of my fellow Jeepers' opinions will help me decide before
I make this important decision.

L.A. Jeepster
'95 YJ
'96 ZJ
L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III - 22 Apr 2004 00:14 GMT
   You mean like cook?
       God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/

> I'm finally graduating from the hibachi grill to something I can throw a
> whole cow on.  Or at least the neigbors cat, if I ever had the opportunity.
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> '95 YJ
> '96 ZJ
L.A. Jeepster - 22 Apr 2004 00:32 GMT
>     You mean like cook?

Of course!  A grill, not a grille!
DougW - 22 Apr 2004 00:18 GMT
L.A. Jeepster did pass the time by typing:
> I'm finally graduating from the hibachi grill to something I can throw a
> whole cow on.  Or at least the neigbors cat, if I ever had the opportunity.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> that hearing some of my fellow Jeepers' opinions will help me decide before
> I make this important decision.

I like to cook on coals but if your in a fire-ban area you can
usually still cook outside on gas when those with coals have to order
pizza.

Gas cooks more even and with less babysitting.  Plus you can put wood
chips in several models to make smoke for the food.   My next BBQ is going
to be a gas one hooked up to the house gas so I don't have to mess
with bottles.

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Mike Romain - 22 Apr 2004 00:27 GMT
I have been cooking the meals off road and camping since the 60's and I
still insist on charcoal or wood coals for cooking.

There is no comparison in my mind or taste buds between wood and gas.

Gas is great for a fry pan or breakfast grill like I use my old Coleman
stove for, but not for direct cooking.

I have a 'dead' gas BBQ someone tossed out filled with bricks I use for
a home BBQ.

The hibachi grill is still a sweet one to take on runs or to use at
home, I just went bigger with a dead gas one.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

> I'm finally graduating from the hibachi grill to something I can throw a
> whole cow on.  Or at least the neigbors cat, if I ever had the opportunity.
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> '95 YJ
> '96 ZJ
Paul Calman - 22 Apr 2004 00:55 GMT
It's hard to beat the taste of a Black Angus rib eye cooked over real
mesquite. I don't mean those funny factory-made brickets, either.
This stuff comes from mexico, or if you live in San Diego, from behind your
yard. Got to bust it up with a hammer, it takes a long time to be ready to
cook, and throws sparks everywhere, so I hose down the deck first.
REAL barbeques have to be replaced every 2 years.
Cheaters who use gas get down to eating quickly, and don't have a mess to
clean up.
Your choice, but if I'm invited to dinner I will make fun of a gas grill.
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Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California

Jerry Newton - 22 Apr 2004 02:00 GMT
> Your choice, but if I'm invited to dinner I will make fun of a gas grill.
> --
> Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California

You can make fun of my gas grill while you are driving to McDonalds to get
your own freakin hamburger.  :-)

Jerry
Handywired - 22 Apr 2004 04:41 GMT
>Your choice, but if I'm invited to dinner I will make fun of a gas grill.

You're not invited, then <g>!

Missin' out on the venison backstrap...  mmmm...

-jeff
Joseph P - 22 Apr 2004 05:12 GMT
|| Your choice, but if I'm invited to dinner I will make fun
of
|| a gas grill.
|
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|
| -jeff

Use you head, er, gut man...I have a gas grill, and I keep
charcaol  and old school grill on hand, with everything I
need to smoke foods, for those days I want the taste of real
cooking.

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cooper - 22 Apr 2004 15:45 GMT
<snip>

> REAL barbeques have to be replaced every 2 years.

Crickey, 'REAL Jeeps', now 'REAL bbqs'... tough crowd this one.

coop
PLB49 - 22 Apr 2004 00:57 GMT
Nothing beats charcoal for flavor.

Nothing beats gas for convenience.

Which matters more?

Paul B.
01 XJ
Charlie - 22 Apr 2004 01:29 GMT
> Nothing beats charcoal for flavor.
>
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>
> Paul B.

Paul, you're very close. And I use both. But when I want something REALLY
good I break out my dutch ovens. I can cook up BBQ chicken, some veggies
and a great dessert all at once.  MMMM GOOD!

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Shaggie - 22 Apr 2004 01:37 GMT
>> Nothing beats charcoal for flavor.
>>
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>good I break out my dutch ovens. I can cook up BBQ chicken, some veggies
>and a great dessert all at once.  MMMM GOOD!

Charcoal.  Here ya go...  I'm one of the guys in these pictures.  Only
way to go when you're cookin' a pig is wood/charcoal...  I love BBQ so
much that I bought my own pig roaster.  WOOT WOOT!!!
http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/pig.html

"I can hammer it back into shape later."
:wq!
SB - 22 Apr 2004 02:30 GMT
Don't take this personally...but....<drool drool>....I hate you!! ;)

It's been a while since I been to a pigroast...thems is GREAT!!

> >> Nothing beats charcoal for flavor.
> >>
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> "I can hammer it back into shape later."
> :wq!
Jo - 22 Apr 2004 02:39 GMT
Does the dude with the hand tat have a mullet??

> >> Nothing beats charcoal for flavor.
> >>
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> "I can hammer it back into shape later."
> :wq!
Shaggie - 22 Apr 2004 11:43 GMT
>Does the dude with the hand tat have a mullet??

No. :-)

>> >> Nothing beats charcoal for flavor.
>> >>
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>> "I can hammer it back into shape later."
>> :wq!

"I can hammer it back into shape later."
:wq!
PLB49 - 22 Apr 2004 02:22 GMT
>> Nothing beats charcoal for flavor.
>>
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>good I break out my dutch ovens. I can cook up BBQ chicken, some veggies
>and a great dessert all at once.  MMMM GOOD!

Dutch Ovens--back to the EARLY 60's and Boy Scout days--<drool> pot roast,
carrots, and potatoes--apple cobbler--frosty nights, dewy mornings--

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SB - 22 Apr 2004 02:31 GMT
I have a question....uhm....I thought a dutch-oven was when you farted in
bed and then pulled the cover over your spouse?!

And I won't even describe what dutch treats are!

> > Nothing beats charcoal for flavor.
> >
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> good I break out my dutch ovens. I can cook up BBQ chicken, some veggies
> and a great dessert all at once.  MMMM GOOD!
PLB49 - 22 Apr 2004 02:37 GMT
http://www.macscouter.com/Cooking/DutchOven.html

>I have a question....uhm....I thought a dutch-oven was when you farted in
>bed and then pulled the cover over your spouse?!
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>> good I break out my dutch ovens. I can cook up BBQ chicken, some veggies
>> and a great dessert all at once.  MMMM GOOD!
Charlie - 22 Apr 2004 04:34 GMT
> I have a question....uhm....I thought a dutch-oven was when you farted in
> bed and then pulled the cover over your spouse?!
>
> And I won't even describe what dutch treats are!

https://secure.lodgemfg.com/storefront/product.asp?idProduct=2821&menu=Outdoor

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L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III - 22 Apr 2004 04:09 GMT
    My Brother-in-law's dutch ovens in an old water pipe coupling, with
coals below and on top of the pots:
http://www.billhughes.com/zeigler1992.jpg
       God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com

> Paul, you're very close. And I use both. But when I want something REALLY
> good I break out my dutch ovens. I can cook up BBQ chicken, some veggies
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> 55. Cocoa Powder is neither.
Charlie - 22 Apr 2004 04:35 GMT
L.W.(ßill) Hughes III wrote:

>      My Brother-in-law's dutch ovens in an old water pipe coupling, with
> coals below and on top of the pots:
> http://www.billhughes.com/zeigler1992.jpg

Bill, you have a picture for just about everything don't you!

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L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III - 22 Apr 2004 04:53 GMT
    Yup, fortunately none from Vietnam.
       God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
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> Bill, you have a picture for just about everything don't you!
COLLIDE13@webtv.net - 22 Apr 2004 05:37 GMT
My Girlfriend LOVES Dutch ovens!
Nick N - 22 Apr 2004 07:31 GMT
What position is that?
Nick

> My Girlfriend LOVES Dutch ovens!
Jersey - 22 Apr 2004 01:03 GMT
Several years ago I got gas, err I mean I switched over
to a gas grill just cause it's the lazy mans way of grill'n.
I have a big Char-Broil for out by the pool & a small
Coleman clam shell type unit that uses the little propane
(torch) bottles that I can throw in the Jeep for outings. But
lately I've been getting the itch to go back to charcoal
so I just got a big Webber & I've been looking at the Egg.
check it out

http://biggreenegg.com/

L8r - Jersey
CRWLR - 22 Apr 2004 20:40 GMT
For camping, there is no better fire than charcoal, but gas is the way to go
in the backyard.

> I have been cooking the meals off road and camping since the 60's and I
> still insist on charcoal or wood coals for cooking.
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> > '95 YJ
> > '96 ZJ
Just Taylor - 22 Apr 2004 01:42 GMT
>I'm finally graduating from the hibachi grill to something I can throw a
>whole cow on.  Or at least the neigbors cat, if I ever had the opportunity.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>that hearing some of my fellow Jeepers' opinions will help me decide before
>I make this important decision.

I have both!  I had a BBQ patio built last year and I use gas on my main
BBQ which is nice for fast cooking.  No waiting for the briquettes and
no clean up after a fast cook-out....   HOWEVER, when it comes to the
good eat'n, I go charcoal all the way.  Nothing beats charcoal when it
comes to a great Porterhouse :)

If I had to choose one I would go with charcoal myself...

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'98 Jeep Cherokee Sport
L0nD0t.$t0we11 - 22 Apr 2004 03:28 GMT
Roughly 4/21/04 16:14, L.A. Jeepster's monkeys randomly typed:

> I'm finally graduating from the hibachi grill to something I can throw a
> whole cow on.  Or at least the neigbors cat, if I ever had the opportunity.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> that hearing some of my fellow Jeepers' opinions will help me decide before
> I make this important decision.

 Gas is far more controllable if you get a good grill with enough
 BTU.  If you like the charcoal flavor, drop a few bits of wood
 onto the ceramic bricks, or cheat like some folks do and spray
 a bit of water in which your favorite wood chips have been soaked.

 My gas grille was bought in 1987 and is still in good shape, only
 thing that has needed replacement is the cooking grill...but then
 I poison the environment after using it by cranking the burners
 on high with the top closed just long enough to ash everything
 on the grilling surface.  Plus it has the little mesh covers over
 all the gas nozzles to keep crawly critters out.

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Paul Calman - 22 Apr 2004 07:09 GMT
I do have to admit that every time my mesquite burns out another webber, i
look at gas rigs. Haven't bought one yet tho.
It's nice to see a discussion group where an off-topic thread on BBQ runs
longer than a political rant.
Black Angus rib eye is up to $13.50 a pound here. Sure was a good dinner.
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SB - 22 Apr 2004 12:02 GMT
Just wait til they tax us on 'open air cooking'
> I do have to admit that every time my mesquite burns out another webber, i
> look at gas rigs. Haven't bought one yet tho.
> It's nice to see a discussion group where an off-topic thread on BBQ runs
> longer than a political rant.
> Black Angus rib eye is up to $13.50 a pound here. Sure was a good dinner.
Paul Calman - 22 Apr 2004 12:22 GMT
> Just wait til they tax us on 'open air cooking'

I just sold a guitar on Ebay to a guy in Norway. He asked me to mark it for
customs as a "gift", to avoid a 24% sales tax. I didn't ask him what he pays
for gas.
Our taxes are low.

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Jo - 22 Apr 2004 14:33 GMT
Hmmm... years ago I worked on a project at IBM where we were shooting lasers
over a city to detect pollution.  We then overlaid the results over a map of
the city.  We could detect fireplaces, restaurants, etc.  The goal was to,
eventually, be able to detect who was illegally burning wood, etc. and then
fine them.

> Just wait til they tax us on 'open air cooking'
> > I do have to admit that every time my mesquite burns out another webber, i
> > look at gas rigs. Haven't bought one yet tho.
> > It's nice to see a discussion group where an off-topic thread on BBQ runs
> > longer than a political rant.
> > Black Angus rib eye is up to $13.50 a pound here. Sure was a good dinner.
Paul Calman - 22 Apr 2004 19:27 GMT
"> Hmmm... years ago I worked on a project at IBM where we were shooting
lasers
> over a city to detect pollution.  We then overlaid the results over a map of
> the city.  We could detect fireplaces, restaurants, etc.  The goal was to,
> eventually, be able to detect who was illegally burning wood, etc. and then
> fine them.

We still have no bi-annual smog inspections, and burn yard debris here.
Woodstoves abound, although new ones need cats. They outlawed burn-barrels
here this year, but no one has ben cited for burning garbage yet.
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Lee Ayrton - 22 Apr 2004 15:19 GMT
>   My gas grille was bought in 1987 and is still in good shape, only
>   thing that has needed replacement is the cooking grill...but then
>   I poison the environment after using it by cranking the burners
>   on high with the top closed just long enough to ash everything
>   on the grilling surface.  Plus it has the little mesh covers over
>   all the gas nozzles to keep crawly critters out.
                ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

You mispelled "smoke-flavor enhancers" there, Lon.
Steve - 22 Apr 2004 06:36 GMT
Maybe you're an exhaust fume man:

  http://tinyurl.com/37ukt

... cookin' with gas.

Steve

> Anyway, I don't really know if I'm a charcoal man or a gas man.
Paul Calman - 22 Apr 2004 07:11 GMT
> Maybe you're an exhaust fume man:
>
>    http://tinyurl.com/37ukt

Them fancy landcruisers have EVERYTHING!

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Old Crow - 22 Apr 2004 10:55 GMT
>I'm finally graduating from the hibachi grill to something I can throw a
>whole cow on.  Or at least the neigbors cat, if I ever had the opportunity.
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>'95 YJ
>'96 ZJ

Real grill use charcoal.  I like my meat to taste like smoke, not
porpane.
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Barry Bean - 22 Apr 2004 13:32 GMT
> Anyway, I don't really know if I'm a charcoal man or a gas man.  I'm
> hoping that hearing some of my fellow Jeepers' opinions will help me
> decide before I make this important decision.

If you just like cooking outside, but don't really care about flavor or
participating in a tradition as long as mankind,  then by all means choose
gas.

On the other hand, if you love the distinct flavor imparted by charcoal or
aromatic woods, if you love a good smoke ring around your meat, if you
enjoy learning and mastering the art of controlling a fire, if you want to
command the respect of your friends, neighbors, and peers, or if you want
to cook REAL bbq, then go charcoal.

Ultimately - charcoal grill to gass grill is like classic Jeep to Kia.
Matt - 22 Apr 2004 15:00 GMT
I got one of these as a gift and it rules! Folds up smaller than a
suitcase and uses either coal or gas:

http://www.oegmag.com/VBroilerMightyGrill.asp

It's all chromed stainless and parts go in the dishwasher. Kinda
expensive, though.

Matt
Jersey - 22 Apr 2004 15:13 GMT
It all comes down to one thing as old as mankind,
charcoal or gas "Fire Good, Cooks Meat"

L8r - Jersey
Lee Ayrton - 22 Apr 2004 15:36 GMT
As others have noted, it all depends.  For myself, I like my rinky-dink
2nd-hand gas grill:  I don't have to start the grill half an hour before I
want to cook, I don't have to worry about when it will finally go out when
I'm done, I never have to fiddle with coals that are burning on this end
but not that end, I can adjust the heat instantly at whim, I never have to
handle ashes.  If I want nearly wood smoke flavor I can add chips.  Like
Lon, I run it at high for a while when I'm done to self-clean it.

But I can see the charcoal purists point of view too.  Nothing tastes like
real hardwood charcoal.  For me, it comes down to ease of control and ease
of use.  YMMV.

> I'm finally graduating from the hibachi grill to something I can throw a
> whole cow on.  Or at least the neigbors cat, if I ever had the opportunity.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> that hearing some of my fellow Jeepers' opinions will help me decide before
> I make this important decision.
CRWLR - 22 Apr 2004 20:39 GMT
I think you get a different flavor from charcoal than from gas, but gas is
easier to use.

To have the charcoal fire, you have to build it, let it season for a half
hour, then spread it out and wait for the dust to stop flying, then you can
finally get to the business of cooking. With gas, you turn it on and let it
warm up, then cook.

My best gas BBQ was my Weber Genesis 2000 that we got at Costco (probably
Price Club in those days). I used it for over 5 years, then got a built-in
BBQ. My brother got the Weber, and still uses it after 7 years.

> I'm finally graduating from the hibachi grill to something I can throw a
> whole cow on.  Or at least the neigbors cat, if I ever had the opportunity.
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> '95 YJ
> '96 ZJ
Kevin - 22 Apr 2004 22:36 GMT
OK I gotta chime in on this one.
I am currently welding up an offset firebox smoker.  My old smoker is just
to small for the amount of meat I want to serve so a bigger one is needed!
I just welded up most of the firebox (18"x18"x18" 1/4" thick).  I need to go
get more plate for the cooking chamber.  It will be 20"x20"x36" long with
hooks and two shelves.  Can pile up a lot of pork butt, brisket, ribs,
sausage, and chickens in there.  I usually smoke my pork butt for 12 hours
at about 200 deg.  (I have had it fall apart when I tried to pick it up off
the smoker before) The last hour I throw on tater skins, corn and whole
onions on the smoker while my cornbread cooks in the oven in my iron
skillets.  Of course I made my three different BBQ sauces the day before and
are heating up on the firebox.  Gas ?? !! ??  I'll take wood and LUMP
charcoal any day! (even Kingsford uses some petroleum products, but has the
least of all briquette types)  I have a Weber Genesis and is a great grill,
but I only use it for hot dogs.  True BBQ is low and slow! I would say get
the gas. Master that, get a Webber kettle charcoal, then maybe try a small
offset firebox smoker.  Take it in steps.  OK.. I am ready to eat now. I
made myself hungry!

Kevin KC8GAB
97 TJ

> I'm finally graduating from the hibachi grill to something I can throw a
> whole cow on.  Or at least the neigbors cat, if I ever had the opportunity.
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> '95 YJ
> '96 ZJ
Will Honea - 23 Apr 2004 04:10 GMT
> OK I gotta chime in on this one.
> I am currently welding up an offset firebox smoker.  My old smoker is just
> to small for the amount of meat I want to serve so a bigger one is needed!
> I just welded up most of the firebox (18"x18"x18" 1/4" thick).  I need to go
> get more plate for the cooking chamber.  It will be 20"x20"x36" long with
> hooks and two shelves.  <snip>

Damn, Kevin, you got a crane to get that sucker up on a stand or are
you building it in place?  At least, you have no problem with it
blowing away...

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Kevin - 23 Apr 2004 11:25 GMT
Will,

I figure the fire box will be about 250 pounds.  The cooking chamber will be
out of 3/16" thick I figure about 700 to 800 pounds total when it is all
done.  I will put four10" pneumatic tires on it and pipe extensions that
pull out wheel barrow fashion to steer it when needed.  I thought about just
putting an axle under it with a tongue, but that would be hard to store and
use in the back yard.  If I need it to go mobile I'll just use a come along
on my trailer and tie it down good.  This is similar to what I am making.
http://www.bbqpits.com/20x30.htm

Kevin KC8GAB
97 TJ

> > OK I gotta chime in on this one.
> > I am currently welding up an offset firebox smoker.  My old smoker is just
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> you building it in place?  At least, you have no problem with it
> blowing away...
SB - 23 Apr 2004 11:59 GMT
Just be sure you flame that guy up real hot before cooking on it!  The flux
from your welds (dunno what kinda welding yer doin) will get in to your food
(somewhat NOT good for ya!).
You just using steel?  Is it galvanized (hope not!) ?

> Will,
>
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> > you building it in place?  At least, you have no problem with it
> > blowing away...
Kevin - 23 Apr 2004 17:16 GMT
Using a Lincoln 220 "tombstone" stick welder.

Hmmmm....  Not thought of that.  Hey.. come over for some flux flavored
ribs?  Should be OK after I season it.  I will season it like an iron
skillet.  Rub everything down on the inside with bacon grease or spray it
with Pam and fire it up!  I'll let it get good 'n hot for a long time to let
that grease seep in all the nooks and crannies.  I'll hose it out (1 1/2 "
ball valve in bottom to drain) then do it all over again.  I have done this
process on the smoker I am using now, but I did not weld it either.

No, not galvanized

Thanks,  I'll look into this!
Kevin KC8GAB
97 TJ

> Just be sure you flame that guy up real hot before cooking on it!  The flux
> from your welds (dunno what kinda welding yer doin) will get in to your food
[quoted text clipped - 33 lines]
> > > you building it in place?  At least, you have no problem with it
> > > blowing away...
L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III - 23 Apr 2004 18:46 GMT
    I always like to get here good and hot before I slap the meat in.
       God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/

> Just be sure you flame that guy up real hot before cooking on it!  The flux
> from your welds (dunno what kinda welding yer doin) will get in to your food
> (somewhat NOT good for ya!).
> You just using steel?  Is it galvanized (hope not!) ?
SB - 23 Apr 2004 22:57 GMT
Well, it's a bonus if she's good and hot...if I'm hungry enough I'll just
throw her on right away! ;)

>      I always like to get here good and hot before I slap the meat in.
>         God Bless America, ?ill O|||||||O
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> > (somewhat NOT good for ya!).
> > You just using steel?  Is it galvanized (hope not!) ?
Old Crow - 24 Apr 2004 12:27 GMT
On Fri, 23 Apr 2004 10:46:48 -0700, L.W.(ßill) Hughes III
<billhughes@cox.net> wrote:

>     I always like to get here good and hot before I slap the meat in.
>        God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/

What, no picture?  :-)
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L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III - 24 Apr 2004 18:16 GMT
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> What, no picture?  :-)
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L.A. Jeepster - 23 Apr 2004 04:01 GMT
Everyone -

Thanks for all the insight!  When I posted the original question, I had no
idea it might lead to the posting of a photo of a pig in the back of a van,
a discussion of Dutch sex technique, or hi-tech notes about using laser to
measure pollution.  However, it was all vital in helping me decide;
particularly the analogy penned by Barry Bean: "Ultimately - charcoal grill
to gas grill is like classic Jeep to Kia."

So I went with the Char-Broil charcoal grill.  It may be more work, but now
I can proudly stand on my side of the fence, mocking the clean-burning, mess
free grill of the dude next door.  I'm firing it up this weekend, and you're
all invited.  Take it easy,

L.A. Jeepster

> I'm finally graduating from the hibachi grill to something I can throw a
> whole cow on.  Or at least the neigbors cat, if I ever had the opportunity.
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Jersey - 23 Apr 2004 14:21 GMT
> Everyone -

(Sniperonie)

> I'm firing it up this weekend, and you're
> all invited.  Take it easy,
>
> L.A. Jeepster

So what's the address???

I was riding through hillbilly country the other day & came across
this guy selling smokers made outa those big ol outdoor gas tanks.
He had one painted "Yeller" musta been 16 feet long, ya coulda
fit 4 or 5 cows in it.

L8r - Jersey
Old Crow - 24 Apr 2004 12:35 GMT
>> Everyone -
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>He had one painted "Yeller" musta been 16 feet long, ya coulda
>fit 4 or 5 cows in it.

We'll be riding the bikes to a party in Tennessee in June.  The guy
there has an offset firebox smoker where the cooking chamber is about
3 ½' in diameter and about 5' long.  It has a rotating rack system on
the inside similar to one of those hot dog machines at 7-11.  Last
year he cooked racks of beef ribs for about 6 or 8 hours and the meat
almost fell off the bones...Yum!
The menu for this year is SPAM(SomePoorAnimal'sMeat).  I believe the
poor animal this year is(was)actually a pig.
His biggest secret(at least the one he'd tell)was to use apple wood in
the firebox.
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