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Car Forum / Jeep / April 2004quick question sway bar links
Quick Question does anyone know the size or Tork bit needed to remove the bolt on the sway bar link? tia Snow Snow did pass the time by typing: > Quick Question does anyone know the size or Tork bit needed to remove the > bolt on the sway bar link? ?big? :) one minute please... T-55 on my ZJ.  SignatureDougW its a trick question, the bolt slides out and will not turn out, took me a long time to realise this, I just heated it with a torch and hammered it out. > Quick Question does anyone know the size or Tork bit needed to remove the > bolt on the sway bar link? > > tia > Snow 55 or 57 I think The don't come in odd numbers do they? Looked at my set and they're all divisions of 5 (20,25,30,35,=...50,55) Canadian tire here doesn't appear to carry bigger than T55. Are there any points on a '02 TJ that requires biggeR? > 55 or 57 I think SB did pass the time by typing: > The don't come in odd numbers do they? > > Looked at my set and they're all divisions of 5 (20,25,30,35,=...50,55) > > Canadian tire here doesn't appear to carry bigger than T55. Are there any > points on a '02 TJ that requires biggeR? Possibly the seatbelt harness. SignatureDougW The bench one mounted in the middle of the floor got removed right quick and that, I THINK, was a T50 I used but I remember it was sloppy, so I probably shoulda used the T55.... > SB did pass the time by typing: > > The don't come in odd numbers do they? [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Possibly the seatbelt harness. : The don't come in odd numbers do they? The oddball is T27. Most people use a T25 and get pissed off when it strips. Canadian Tire carries them. -Brian >: The don't come in odd numbers do they? >: >The oddball is T27. Most people use a T25 and get pissed off when it strips. >Canadian Tire carries them. >-Brian I didn't think anybody but Harley used that t-27. Most riders I know stripped out the 27's by using a 25 with them, so replaced the bolts with allen heads. -- Old Crow '82 Shovelhead FLT 92" 'Pearl' '95 Jeep YJ Rio Grande ASE Certified Master Auto Tech + L1 TOMKAT, BS#133, SENS, MAMBM, DOF#51 T55 . . removed mine today. -Brian : Quick Question does anyone know the size or Tork bit needed to remove the : bolt on the sway bar link? : : tia : Snow you just take them right off?? I want to remove or disconnect them for a run with the local Jeep club Sunday...I'm looking at about an 80 KMPH speeds to get to the trail.I've never removed them before nor have I ever driven a vehicle without them. What probs can I encounter?? ThankYou, Jeff > T55 . . removed mine today. > -Brian [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > : tia > : Snow : you just take them right off?? : I want to remove or disconnect them for a run with the local Jeep club [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] : : ThankYou, Jeff I was installing new coils. I wouldn't drive on the street without the sway bar....not on a coil front end. -Brian It is very illegal to drive on the street with no anti sway bar!!!! If you get in a fender bender bad enough (injuries) that the police respond and they check out your rig and find that major piece of safety equipment missing, you will get busted and be the one found at fault in the accident. They will say you could maybe have avoided the accident if you had proper steering control. If you disconnect the rear one on a TJ, the back springs can/will fall out too. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > you just take them right off?? > I want to remove or disconnect them for a run with the local Jeep club [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > : tia > > : Snow Interesting. I didn't know it was actually *illegal* per se. So even though some dumbass might cut you off and cause an accident, you're supposedly at fault because you couldn't swerve around the idiot. Stupid, but I can definitely see that argument being made, and won. So, don't do as I have been bad and done in the past! Don't be lazy! Keep that sucker attached until you're off-road, and remember to put it back on again after! ;-) > It is very illegal to drive on the street with no anti sway bar!!!! > [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > > > : tia > > > : Snow Hi Bob, It probably falls into the anything modified area that makes it illegal, here in San Diego we have the rice racers, which regularly crash, and the fault is assigned as soon as the cop sees the telltale blue painted springs they use. God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ > Interesting. I didn't know it was actually *illegal* per se. So even > though some dumbass might cut you off and cause an accident, you're [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Keep that sucker attached until you're off-road, and remember to put > it back on again after! ;-) It is a major safety item on the vehicle. I was in a bad fender bender and was told this from both the police and my insurance rep. They 'really' look for unsafe modifications and on a 4x4 anti sway bars on and matching tires are 'really' important. My vehicle was in perfect shape which helped me be found the not at fault driver in court. They consider taking the bar off tampering with safety equipment and would have tossed the book at me. Mike > Interesting. I didn't know it was actually *illegal* per se. So even > though some dumbass might cut you off and cause an accident, you're [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] > > > > : tia > > > > : Snow Well good thing your jeep was in good shape! I have a question, though, based on one of your (I think it was you) previous comments also about the swaybar...namely, the rear swaybar. My friend's rear swaybar on his rubicon was making a bunch of noise from the bushing after he got it lifted, and his solution was to simply disconnect it altogether. He's now driving with no rear swaybar full time. He still keeps the front connected on-road, but disconnects it off-road. Personally, I thought that seemed a bit unwise, since having both disconnected would seem to me likely to make for even more body roll on off-camber slopes. What is your take on this? Both for off-road and on-road purposes? He seems to think it's driving perfectly fine in both respects so far. And riding in his jeep once or twice, I haven't noticed any excessive rolling due to the lack of the rear SB. But if you have a good argument against what he's done, I'll let him know your reasoning, and he may reconsider his decision to remove that item. Thanks, Bob > It is a major safety item on the vehicle. > [quoted text clipped - 52 lines] > > > > > : tia > > > > > : Snow He is playing with fire one way or another. One way if he say crosses a ditch at a 45 deg angle, the rear spring will fall out. This is how a stock TJ works. The other way is he has the shocks limiting the travel of the springs. This quickly leads to broken off shocks from the droop hits. I have even seen frames snap from the impacts. The bump stops prevent the axle from going to high, they need a bottom limit. If he checks out speed shops, he can get straps to set the droop limit. Track cars use them for safety. Mike > Well good thing your jeep was in good shape! > [quoted text clipped - 75 lines] > > > > > > : tia > > > > > > : Snow Spring suspension has no such limit though? > He is playing with fire one way or another. > [quoted text clipped - 85 lines] > > > > > > > > > > > > "Cherokee-LTD" <spammenot@home.com> wrote in message news:nLZhc.3399$w_E1.3371@news04.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com... > > > > > > > T55 . . removed mine today. > > > > > > > -Brian [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > > > > > > : tia > > > > > > > : Snow Yes actually it does. I have snapped a shock when I hit a big hole with one rear tire. The fast drop managed to snap the lower mount. Now mind you that mount was already cracked from hitting a rock, but... I have a 3" lift with 2.5" lift shocks, so am right at the edge of trouble. You need to be matched up. Mike > Spring suspension has no such limit though? > [quoted text clipped - 112 lines] > > > > > > > > : tia > > > > > > > > : Snow Just my $.02 worth, but I think Mike's concerns area a bit on the extreme side. I for one would not drive a TJ on the highway with the sway bar disconnected, simply because they're so damn squirrely. However, if you got in a bad scrape it's highly unlikely the investigators would even notice it was unhooked. An issue with TJs that's been a concern since the beginning is that the rear axle can tend to "steer" the front when off road. As a result, Currie developed their "Anti-Rock" sway bar, which has far less roll resistance, but enough to maintain proper transfer weight front to the rear when the suspension's bound up. It's been effective enough that I'm now starting to see them fitted to SOA as well as coil sprung rigs. So, bottom line, I'd advise you keep it connected until you hit the trail. OTOH, I tossed the sway bar & both track bars from my Dynatrac 44 & 60 equipped YJ years ago and haven't missed 'em. It just depends upon the suspension, and a sensible driver. > Interesting. I didn't know it was actually *illegal* per se. So even > though some dumbass might cut you off and cause an accident, you're [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] > > > > : tia > > > > : Snow Then of course you would be running leaf springs: http://www.4x4wire.com/jeep/tech/susp/tjleafsprings/ God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ > Just my $.02 worth, but I think Mike's concerns area a bit on the extreme > side. I for one would not drive a TJ on the highway with the sway bar [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > suspension's bound up. It's been effective enough that I'm now starting to > see them fitted to SOA as well as coil sprung rigs. Did that guy yank the rear coils and put in leafs? but left the coils in front? Looks cool....what are the driving differences having that? > Then of course you would be running leaf springs: > http://www.4x4wire.com/jeep/tech/susp/tjleafsprings/ [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > suspension's bound up. It's been effective enough that I'm now starting to > > see them fitted to SOA as well as coil sprung rigs. Like that he has half a chance to be able to keep up to a CJ7 when climbing sand pits or ravine walls. The leaf springs are structurally more sound and they prevent the run away wheel hop that the TJ's get when climbing. As soon as the TJ's wheels hop airborne, they start spinning and dig holes really fast. Some TJ's with lockers don't do too bad trying to follow a CJ, but then lockers are crap on the roads around here in the winter, so they are more for 'trailer queens'. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > Did that guy yank the rear coils and put in leafs? but left the coils in > front? [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > to > > > see them fitted to SOA as well as coil sprung rigs. The TJ loses that cushy ride for offroad axle control. God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ > Did that guy yank the rear coils and put in leafs? but left the coils in > front? > > Looks cool....what are the driving differences having that? Only extreme due to having been there.... I am some damn glad I had mine hooked up when it 'was' checked. Mike > Just my $.02 worth, but I think Mike's concerns area a bit on the extreme > side. I for one would not drive a TJ on the highway with the sway bar [quoted text clipped - 60 lines] > > > > > : tia > > > > > : Snow So what's the difference onroad/offroad with the rear springs not falling out? > It is very illegal to drive on the street with no anti sway bar!!!! > [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > > > : tia > > > : Snow You can put axle straps on it to hold it from dropping too low. Most folks just undo the front one. I have never had mine off.... Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > So what's the difference onroad/offroad with the rear springs not falling > out? [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > > > > : tia > > > > : Snow While I agree that you should avoid driving on the road without the swaybar connected, it's not like the jeep is gonna flip at the first slight turn you make. I have forgotten to reconnect mine after a trail before. You definitely notice looser handling, so you need to make sure you don't go as fast, and drive extra defensively (read: look further down the road) so you don't have to make sudden corrections or avoidance moves. If you drive carefully and realize the jeep is going to be more unresponsive to sudden changes in direction, you can usually handle it ok. That said, I would still recommend leaving them connected and just bring your T55 to the trail to remove them there. Even if you do drive extremely defensively, it's always possible to have some idiot out there cause you to react suddenly, and the unexpected body roll without a swaybar could surprise you and cause you to get in an accident. If I notice the swaybar is still disconnected when I forget to reconnect it, I'll usually pull over and reconnect it before proceeding. I don't like the erratic curve response with it disconnected on the road. So how's that for arguing both sides of the point? ;-) > you just take them right off?? > I want to remove or disconnect them for a run with the local Jeep club [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > : tia > > : Snow I do not recommend removing the rear sway bar at all. If it was even moderately safe to do so the lift kit companies would be selling disconnects for it. There isn't one company that makes them or recommends removing them. The only thing limiting your vehicle leaning in off camber situation would be the shocks. Not me. Sean 99TJ 00XJ > While I agree that you should avoid driving on the road without the > swaybar connected, it's not like the jeep is gonna flip at the first [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > > > : tia > > > : Snow TK sliders http://www.rockcrawler.com/techreports/tksliders/tksliders2.htm http://www.muddyjeep.com/tk_sliders_sales.htm and I am pretty sure that the rockshop at rockcrawler.com carries them too. >>I do not recommend removing the rear sway bar at all. If it was even >>moderately safe to do so the lift kit companies would be selling disconnects [quoted text clipped - 49 lines] >>> > > : tia >>> > > : Snow TK sliders are not disconnects...they give about 3-4 inches of slide but do not allow the springs to fall out like removing the rear swaybar would(which is the origional question). Operating a TJ with no swaybars attached would be very unsafe. Sean > TK sliders > [quoted text clipped - 56 lines] > >>> > > : tia > >>> > > : Snow I speak from experience...TK sliders aren't worth the money. They're noisy, they make the rear swaybar hang too low, they just don't add much if any real-world advantage and they are a pain in the a$$ to re-connect. -- Matt Macchiarolo mlmacchiarolo at comcast dot net > TK sliders are not disconnects...they give about 3-4 inches of slide but do > not allow the springs to fall out like removing the rear swaybar would(which [quoted text clipped - 69 lines] > > >>> > > : tia > > >>> > > : Snow |
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