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Car Forum / Jeep / September 2004

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O.T. gas tank??

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FrankW - 29 Sep 2004 19:16 GMT
Hello Group
Sorry this isn't really Jeep related but
I wonder if anyone has any ideas on how to remedy
a problem I'm having with a metal gas tank for a
yamaha gas generator. The inside of the metal tank
is flaking rust which in turn clogs up the carburetor
Buying a new tank is way to expensive. I wonder if
you can use a type of paint or something to prevent
the metal from flaking rust
Thanks in advance for any ideas
Cheers
Frank
Mike Romain - 29 Sep 2004 19:28 GMT
Check out Bike shops.  They sell an epoxy kit for sealing the insides of
rusty gas tanks.  There was an AC delco shop up the road that even
offered the finished job for $75.00 on vehicle gas tanks.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

> Hello Group
> Sorry this isn't really Jeep related but
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> Cheers
> Frank
Steelgtr62 - 29 Sep 2004 19:54 GMT
Take the tank off and take it to a radiator shop who will hot tank it. Then a
sealer or slosh compound may be used but I would only use one that is alcohol
proof.
Chuck Bremer - 29 Sep 2004 19:59 GMT
i was just going to say the same thing :)  my brother just did this to an
old bike he's working on- the kit is 3 parts: 1st part dissolves the rust,
2nd part neutralizes the part 1, 3rd part coats the inside of the tank.  the
kit was about $30, IIRC.

> Check out Bike shops.  They sell an epoxy kit for sealing the insides of
> rusty gas tanks.  There was an AC delco shop up the road that even
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> > Cheers
> > Frank
FrankW - 29 Sep 2004 20:11 GMT
Just got off the phone of a local Bike Shop
They wholeheartedly advised against using the kit.
They say after a while the coating breaks down
and clogs the carb continuously.
Is this true?

> i was just going to say the same thing :)  my brother just did this to an
> old bike he's working on- the kit is 3 parts: 1st part dissolves the rust,
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>>>Cheers
>>>Frank
L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III - 29 Sep 2004 20:31 GMT
Hi Frank,
    I've never heard of that, and it is a must for the old steel tanks,
used off road. I notice my lawnmower doesn't have a filter, but it would
be simple to install.
       God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/

> Just got off the phone of a local Bike Shop
> They wholeheartedly advised against using the kit.
> They say after a while the coating breaks down
> and clogs the carb continuously.
> Is this true?
Mike Romain - 29 Sep 2004 21:00 GMT
I certainly wouldn't use the kit they sell then....

I have never heard that and I used to work for a classic Vespa Scooter
shop that recommended it on the old bikes.

As someone else mentioned, maybe try an inline gas filter.

Mike

> Just got off the phone of a local Bike Shop
> They wholeheartedly advised against using the kit.
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> >>>Cheers
> >>>Frank
John Davies - 30 Sep 2004 00:13 GMT
>Just got off the phone of a local Bike Shop
>They wholeheartedly advised against using the kit.
>They say after a while the coating breaks down
>and clogs the carb continuously.
>Is this true?

I have used gas tank sealant on a truck tank and a motorcycle tank and
never had a bit of trouble afterwards. It is _critical_ that you prep
the tank according to the instructions with the sealant. I suggest a
handful of gravel and some soapy water to start with - shake the heck
out of it. The rocks will knock most of the loose rust off. Then you
can rinse it out and prep it with the proper chemical.

Make sure the inside is really dry before sealing - blow it out with
compressed air to make sure, then set it outside in the sun for a
while

It's not a fun job, but it does work.

You can also check with a speed shop - lots of hot-rodders have to
retstore an old rusted tank.

And then, of course, there is your friend Google:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&q=%22gas+tank+sealant%22&btnG=Google
+Search


John

John Davies  TLCA 14732
http://home.comcast.net/~johnedavies/
'96 Lexus LX450
'00 Audi A4 1.8T quattro
Spokane WA USA
JD Moon - 30 Sep 2004 02:55 GMT
Alright guys,
                   an old biker here. Use dish soap, water and gravel (BBs,
steel shot for shotgun shells, glass beads for sandblaster, etc.) to get the
loose rust out.  Then go to Home Depot and get a bottle of perchloric acid
or muriatic acid.  Drain the tank, rinse well and add a small quantity of
the acid.  DO NOT breathe the fumes, they are dangerous!  Put an old gas cap
on and slosh the acid around the tank so that the inside is coated with the
acid.  Let it set for 30 minutes. Rinse and repeat until the metal inside is
free of rust (water will dilute whatever acid is not neutralized to the
point where it is safe. This is exactly what the directions on the kit will
tell you to do).  Now is the time to use the two-part sealer.  You can buy
this at most motorcycle shops, some auto parts stores or at www.eastwood.com
and type in keyword "gas tank sealer".  I use the stuff from Eastwood, it
just seems to do a better job.  Follow the directions.  You do not need the
entire kit, save yourself some money, the cleaner in the kit is perchloric
acid and it is cheaper at Home Depot.  I have a Harley that I treated in
this manner twelve years ago, it is ridden daily, and I have yet to have a
problem with it.  Fuel filters are always a good idea (but I have had the
same one for eight years and there is still not any rust in it).

Later,

Moon
FrankW - 30 Sep 2004 14:49 GMT
Thanks all for the tips
An exemplary group as usual :-)
Cheers
Frank

> Hello Group
> Sorry this isn't really Jeep related but
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> Cheers
> Frank
 
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