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Car Forum / Jeep / December 2004Has anybody seen....
any wind tunnel tests for a Wrangler? Just a sheer curiosity...want to test the toaster thing! Don't want to build a wind tunnel for my TJ, one in the works for the toaster (love after Halloween fog machine specials.) Bill, Bill, you of all people would have it.  SignatureDisclaimer: A large chunk of the preceding was, in its entirety, written by the wisest of mules. http://www.fuckinggoogleit.com/ JEGP O|||||||O NC, USA MSN:JEGP AOL:JEGP I can give you the wind tunnel spec's for an XJ: Cd 0.450 Area (sq-m) 2.400 Area (sq-ft) 25.840 Cd*m 1.080 Cd*ft 11.630 -Brian : any wind tunnel tests for a Wrangler? Just a sheer curiosity...want to test : the toaster thing! Don't want to build a wind tunnel for my TJ, one in the : works for the toaster (love after Halloween fog machine specials.) : : Bill, Bill, you of all people would have it. > : any wind tunnel tests for a Wrangler? That's what i like about my Jeepster, it has the drag co-efficient of a brick. SignaturePaul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California That's why yours is powered by a 455" Buick, and mine a 400" Chevy! God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ > That's what i like about my Jeepster, it has the drag co-efficient of a > brick. > > -- > Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California L.W. ("?ill") Hughes III wrote: | That's why yours is powered by a 455" Buick, and mine a 400" | Chevy! God Bless America, ?ill O|||||||O [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] || -- || Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California If Bill doesn't have it, no one has it....thanks for the Cherokee specs though, maybe I will use my girlfriend's XJ for fun... SignatureDisclaimer: A large chunk of the preceding was, in its entirety, written by the wisest of mules. http://www.fuckinggoogleit.com/ JEGP O|||||||O NC, USA MSN:JEGP AOL:JEGP It's like gas mileage, who in the f**k cares. Like if someone gave me a Lamborghini: http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/bymake/Lamborghini2002.shtml I'm not going to complain about it's mileage God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ > If Bill doesn't have it, no one has it....thanks for the Cherokee specs > though, maybe I will use my girlfriend's XJ for fun... [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > MSN:JEGP AOL:JEGP L.W. ("?ill") Hughes III wrote: | It's like gas mileage, who in the f**k cares. Like if someone | gave me a Lamborghini: [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] || || MSN:JEGP AOL:JEGP Funny you should mention that, apparently Enzo Ferrari was once quoted as saying "the Jeep is America's only true sportscar." SignatureDisclaimer: A large chunk of the preceding was, in its entirety, written by the wisest of mules. http://www.fuckinggoogleit.com/ JEGP O|||||||O NC, USA MSN:JEGP AOL:JEGP Why is that a surprise? Ferrari with Maserati plan to build 4X4s: http://www.fantasycars.com/1/News/Maserati_to_build_4x4_/maserati_to_build_4x4_.html And Lamborghini does: http://www.lambocars.com/lm/lm.htm God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ > Funny you should mention that, apparently Enzo Ferrari was once quoted as > saying "the Jeep is America's only true sportscar." [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > MSN:JEGP AOL:JEGP >> Funny you should mention that, apparently Enzo Ferrari was once quoted >> assaying "the Jeep is America's only true sportscar.">> Was that before or after Ford kicked his arrogant a.s? ||| Funny you should mention that, apparently Enzo Ferrari was once ||| quoted assaying "the Jeep is America's only true sportscar.">> | | Was that before or after Ford kicked his arrogant a.s? Grow up. SignatureDisclaimer: A large chunk of the preceding was, in its entirety, written by the wisest of mules. http://www.fuckinggoogleit.com/ JEGP O|||||||O NC, USA MSN:JEGP AOL:JEGP L.W. ("?ill") Hughes III wrote: | Why is that a surprise? Ferrari with Maserati plan to build | 4X4s: http://www.fantasycars.com/1/News/Maserati_to_build_4x4_/maserati_to_build_4x4_.html | And Lamborghini does: http://www.lambocars.com/lm/lm.htm | God Bless America, ?ill O|||||||O [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] || || MSN:JEGP AOL:JEGP That's why we love you Bill...you always have something new. SignatureDisclaimer: A large chunk of the preceding was, in its entirety, written by the wisest of mules. http://www.fuckinggoogleit.com/ JEGP O|||||||O NC, USA MSN:JEGP AOL:JEGP http://www.lambocars.com/lm/lm.htm The "HUMMWV" look to it is no accident, if memory serves Lamborgini designed it around the specs for what would become the military hummer...proved to be too expensive and complicated (even by Pentagon standards) to get Lambo the contract, nevermind the thought of the Army tooling around in Italian vehicles...so they sell them primarily to Middle Eastern oil tycoons. I saw one of these up close when I was in college. The are a LOT bigger than they look. > Why is that a surprise? Ferrari with Maserati plan to build 4X4s: http://www.fantasycars.com/1/News/Maserati_to_build_4x4_/maserati_to_build_4 x4_.html > And Lamborghini does: http://www.lambocars.com/lm/lm.htm > God Bless America, ?ill O|||||||O [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > > > MSN:JEGP AOL:JEGP Respectfully, that’s not entirely correct. Lamborghini never intended for the LM to be a military vehicle. It’s hand built (I believe only 300 were made), it has a v12 petrol engine out of the Diablo sports car, luxurious interior, One of a kind specially made Pirelli tires designed by Pirelli with camel foot like edge that sells for more than $1000 a peace, it has an expensive and elaborate filtering system to provide very clean for the delicate engine and a phenomenal price tag. This car was built for just one audience: The Middle Eastern oil tycoons. Believe it or not its off-road performance wasn’t that exceptional. It was too heavy and too cumbersome. It speeded up hills and dunes like a rocket as long as it got a good grip. As soon as it hit loose sand and looses a bit of grip, its heavy weight and that powerful motor would make it spin and dig itself in a fraction of a second. A Jeep wouldn’t go as fast but it will definitely reach the destination first. > http://www.lambocars.com/lm/lm.htm > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > contract, nevermind the thought of the Army tooling around in Italian > vehicles...so they sell them primarily to Middle Eastern oil tycoons. looks like they did with the LM002.. "The Lamborghini LM002 has never reached it's full potential, the Middle-Eastern armies didn't order large numbers of it, and an attempt to sell it to the United States wasn't met with the enthusiasm needed to boost sales" Dave Milne, Scotland '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ > Respectfully, that?s not entirely correct. Lamborghini never intended > for the LM to be a military vehicle. > > http://www.lambocars.com/lm/lm.htm > > The "HUMMWV" look to it is no accident, if memory serves Lamborgini designed > > it around the specs for what would become the military hummer...proved to be > > too expensive and complicated (even by Pentagon standards) to get Lambo the > > contract, nevermind the thought of the Army tooling around in Italian > > vehicles...so they sell them primarily to Middle Eastern oil tycoons. Dave Milne did pass the time by typing: > looks like they did with the LM002.. > > "The Lamborghini LM002 has never reached it's full potential, the > Middle-Eastern armies didn't order large numbers of it, and an attempt to > sell it to the United States wasn't met with the enthusiasm needed to boost > sales" IIRC, they didn't sell any to the Saudi's because it was too heavy and sank in the sand. SignatureDougW That's probably what I was remembering...I remember reading about it a long time ago... > looks like they did with the LM002.. > [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > > contract, nevermind the thought of the Army tooling around in Italian > > > vehicles...so they sell them primarily to Middle Eastern oil tycoons. A long..... Time ago. I can't remember exactly when I was one at a car show, but I remember the seventy thousand price tag and thinking, outrageous! Must have been just after I bought a Loaded '78 Bronco for thirteen. God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ > That's probably what I was remembering...I remember reading about it a long > time ago... I saw a Lamborghini riding lawnmower at a car show in VA Beach a few years back. Apparently they got their start with tractors...seems like ORVs would be a natural for them, more so than sports cars. Matt mhammer8@yahoo.com proclaimed: > I saw a Lamborghini riding lawnmower at a car show in VA Beach a few > years back. Apparently they got their start with tractors...seems like > ORVs would be a natural for them, more so than sports cars. Actually they started by buying up military surplus vehicles and making tractors out of them. And then came the Cheetah, followed by the LM001. And the latest abortion courtesy of Audi Doody. I saw a Lamborghini riding lawnmower at a car show in VA Beach a few years back. Apparently they got their start with tractors...seems like ORVs would be a natural for them, more so than sports cars. Matt > Respectfully, thats not entirely correct. Lamborghini never intended > for the LM to be a military vehicle. According to a book I've got on LMs, the original rear engined V8 LM was designed as a fast border patrol vehicle for desert use. I suspect the V12 Countach engined models were destined for a different market. They even built one model around the 7 litre V12 Lambo engine used in off-shore powerboat racing - bet that's fun in the dunes! SignaturePreston. http://www.muddystuff.co.uk Off-road classifieds |
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