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Car Forum / Jeep / February 2005Wrong Clutch Fork?
All, I'm getting quite a bit of noise when the clutch is depressed on my '82 Scrambler with a 258, a T-5, and manual clutch. This is before and after I replaced the clutch throwout (release) bearing. While paging through the factory service manual, I noticed that my clutch fork looks like the clutch fork used with the four-cylinder, hydraulic clutches: flat on the tines of the forks, flat in the middle of the fork tines, and a deep dimple for the release rod. In the pictures of the manual clutch, the middle of the fork does not look flat, the dimple for the release rod doesn't look as deep, and the tines of the fork do not look flat. I'd take a photo, but it's installed already. I just know that, in addition to the noise, my clutch system is stressed. I've busted a new bellcrank, a portion of the bell housing, and snapped a grade 5 bolt head. And the old clutch I replaced had one if its return springs busted. One other oddity - when I adjust my clutch, I have to adjust the release rod nearly all the way out. Thanks in advance.  SignatureMichael White "To protect people from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools." -Herbert Spencer, 1891 Did you replace the fork? Signature___________________ HomeBrewer http://85cj7.blogspot.com/ http://85cj7.webhop.net/ http://funfacts.webhop.org/ "When you decide something is impossible to do, try to stay out of the way of the man that's doing it." > All, > [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > Thanks in advance. HomeBrewer (85cj7XXX@cox.net) wrote on Sunday 06 February 2005 10:09 pm: > Did you replace the fork? No, but I bought the Scrambler in 1998, a lot of years where who knows what may have happened. For all I know, someone busted it at one time in the past and picked up one in a junk yard... SignatureMichael White "To protect people from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools." -Herbert Spencer, 1891 Here is the fork from my T5, 258, 85 CJ7. http://www.t3e871.rchomepage.com/ngpics/t5fork.jpg Signature___________________ HomeBrewer http://85cj7.blogspot.com/ http://85cj7.webhop.net/ http://funfacts.webhop.org/ "When you decide something is impossible to do, try to stay out of the way of the man that's doing it." > HomeBrewer (85cj7XXX@cox.net) wrote on Sunday 06 February 2005 10:09 pm: > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > may have happened. For all I know, someone busted it at one time in the > past and picked up one in a junk yard... HomeBrewer (85cj7XXX@cox.net) wrote on Monday 07 February 2005 07:51 pm: > Here is the fork from my T5, 258, 85 CJ7. > > http://www.t3e871.rchomepage.com/ngpics/t5fork.jpg Mostly looks like mine. I'm going to have to pull it apart again, though, as it has the wrong throwout bearing.... SignatureMichael White "To protect people from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools." -Herbert Spencer, 1891 Are you missing the 1/2" or so round ball bearing pivot point for the lever that sits just inside the bell housing? That ball is held in with a small spring that goes from the nose cone to the arm. If missing, the pedal will be hard and you cannot adjust it far enough to have the clutch stay free wheeling when down. You will 'bottom out' the linkage stressing the crap out of the bell crank and always have the throw out bearing touching the pressure plate fingers in order to get it to go far enough. What did the fingers look like on the old plate? Any wear or scuff marks? Did the tranny nose cone have any dings on it? Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > All, > [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > Michael White "To protect people from the effects of folly is to > fill the world with fools." -Herbert Spencer, 1891 Mike Romain (romainm@sympatico.ca) wrote on Monday 07 February 2005 08:28 am: > Are you missing the 1/2" or so round ball bearing pivot point for the > lever that sits just inside the bell housing? That ball is held in with > a small spring that goes from the nose cone to the arm. The one that sort of sits on a pedestal, right? Yes, that's there. > If missing, the pedal will be hard and you cannot adjust it far enough > to have the clutch stay free wheeling when down. You will 'bottom out' [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > What did the fingers look like on the old plate? Any wear or scuff > marks? The fingers definitely have scuff marks. > Did the tranny nose cone have any dings on it? The front of the transmission has no marks or dings on it. The clutch shaft is a bit wore, though. The gears that mesh with the clutch are clean, but the portion behind it that the throwout bearing rides on has definite scoring. > Mike > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's Maybe the O'Reilly folks just sold me a bad clutch. SignatureMichael White "To protect people from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools." -Herbert Spencer, 1891 > >> All, [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] >> Michael White "To protect people from the effects of folly is to >> fill the world with fools." -Herbert Spencer, 1891 |
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