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D-WALL - 13 Feb 2005 03:42 GMT
im considering what tires i need . i want to run a 38 12.50 im thinking
about super swamper tsl sx's   now if they made a bogger radial or if
boggers lasted long i would like to perchase boggers    does anyone
know the road life of a bogger or if they make boggers radial? write
back asap thanks
redneckco2007 - 13 Feb 2005 03:48 GMT
> im considering what tires i need . i want to run a 38 12.50 im thinking
> about super swamper tsl sx's   now if they made a bogger radial or if
> boggers lasted long i would like to perchase boggers    does anyone
> know the road life of a bogger or if they make boggers radial? write
> back asap thanks

dwall looks goofy...haha
D-WALL - 13 Feb 2005 03:53 GMT
does anyone have an answer
D-WALL - 13 Feb 2005 04:00 GMT
alan smith  loves black people   he once had a 3 way with 2 black girls
DougW - 13 Feb 2005 04:32 GMT
D-WALL did pass the time by typing:

70.178.181.32 [ ip70-178-181-32.ma.dl.cox.net ]

Someone wants to loose a broadband account.
I can arrange that with Matt (abuse at cox.net) if you like.

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D-WALL - 13 Feb 2005 04:35 GMT
how did i use abuse doug   please tell me?
DougW - 13 Feb 2005 04:54 GMT
D-WALL did pass the time by typing:
> how did i use abuse doug   please tell me?

Nevermind.

It appears some w.nker is forging header information
including the NNTP posting host.

I've talked with the folks at Google.

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DougW

DougW - 13 Feb 2005 06:08 GMT
And now I see.  You and this allen character
seem to have some issues.

70.178.181.32 = [ ip70-178-181-32.ma.dl.cox.net ]
70.186.75.97 =  [ ip70-186-75-97.ma.dl.cox.net ]

Both in the same neighborhood, and both using google.

c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com; posting-host=70.186.75.97;
posting-account=UDOz7w0AAAC8LN_Gw_N1RjPpo_6P9D1F

f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com; posting-host=70.178.181.32;
posting-account=nosUWg0AAADuOpC1t_ii1upHP50CwQgQ

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alan_smith_23@hotmail.com - 13 Feb 2005 04:44 GMT
doug u r a big ole loser...some lil feller named D-WALL gonna go and
ask about some tires and u r gonna tell him he is abusin
somethin...first of all...i can see u r educated all the way through
the 1st grade...learn to spell...its lose, not loose...loose means not
tight moron.  doug i got one word of advice...shutup
L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III - 13 Feb 2005 06:22 GMT
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redneckco2007 - 13 Feb 2005 04:47 GMT
aight listen here "doug the dooche"... u r a big ole loser...some lil
feller named D-WALL gonna go and
ask about some tires and u r gonna tell him he is abusin
somethin...first of all...i can see u r educated all the way through
the 1st grade...learn to spell...its lose, not loose...loose means not
tight moron.  doug i got one word of advice...shutup
L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III - 13 Feb 2005 06:25 GMT
Forwarded to: abuse@cox.net, groups-abuse@google.com

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D-WALL - 13 Feb 2005 19:29 GMT
doug   how do u know where we live   thats a little staulkerish
DougW - 13 Feb 2005 21:17 GMT
D-WALL did pass the time by typing:
> doug   how do u know where we live

The headers of your post told me.

MA and DL are codes used by cox.net to regionalize
switches.  Plus you posted a phone number that can
be reversed to a street address on Lincoln Estates Dr.
in Dubach, LA serviced by Bellsouth from the Ruston
switching center AS#9419.

Usenet is not anonymous and posting through google
doesn't hide where you are posting from.  If you
are after being truly anon, read up on nntp gateways
(mail to news) and anon services.  But beware, even
posting anon is no guarantee someone won't figure out
who you are.  Key words, phrases, spellings (or
misspellings) can give your identity away.

Remember, everything you post to Usenet is archived
for ever and is searchable.  Even if you post using
x-no-archive headers the followup will be archived.

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D-WALL - 13 Feb 2005 22:00 GMT
DougW,

    I am truly sorry for all of the problems in the past 24 hours.  It
seems that a friend of mine has accessed my Google Groups account and
password and has been leaving messages.  Being familiar with the
Internet, I know that leaving any personal information such as phone
numbers is very dangerous.  The friend of mine thought it would be
humorous to leave the name and phone number of my friend and neighbor,
whose Google Groups account name is "redneckco2007."  When he left the
number, he knew it would look as if I was doing this.  I have cleared
this up with "redneckco2007."  When I realized this was done, you can
tell that I removed the message including the phone number as soon as
possible to try and avoid any problems.
    The only message that I recall leaving yesterday, February 12,
2005, is the message dealing with the Super Swamper truck tires.  I am
truly sorry for all of the problems it has caused and have now changed
my password on Google Groups to avoid any further incidents.  I
apologize for the inconvenience and troubles and I assure you that I
have dealt with things to further prevent any troubles of the same
sort.

Apologetically,
"D-WALL"
D-WALL - 13 Feb 2005 22:09 GMT
Doug W

Also, could you please explain what the previous messages left by "Bill
L. W. Hughes III" mean.  I do not know what this means and would like
to understand the situation.  Also, I would like to know what actions
are being taken against "redneckco2007" and against myself, "D-WALL."
Please explain the actions being taken and what will be the result of
these actions.  Thank you, and again, my apologies for the problem.

"D-WALL"
DougW - 13 Feb 2005 22:21 GMT
D-WALL did pass the time by typing:
> Doug W
>
> Also, could you please explain what the previous messages left by "Bill
> L. W. Hughes III" mean.

It means you/he got larted(1).  Some folks post the headers of messages for the
record.  You may get an email nastygram from your ISP but that would be it.  Cox
isn't going to terminate your service for a minor issue like this.

(1) http://www.catb.org/~esr/jargon/html/L/LART.html

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L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III - 13 Feb 2005 22:45 GMT
Hi Doug,
    You mean you don't save the emails from the Internet Service
Provides, of their termination of the accounts reported? A confirmed
kill, it gives me a God like complex. ;-)
       God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/

> It means you/he got larted(1).  Some folks post the headers of messages for the
> record.  You may get an email nastygram from your ISP but that would be it.  Cox
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> --
> DougW
DougW - 13 Feb 2005 23:18 GMT
L.W. ("?ill") Hughes III did pass the time by typing:
> Hi Doug,
>     You mean you don't save the emails from the Internet Service
> Provides, of their termination of the accounts reported? A confirmed
> kill, it gives me a God like complex. ;-)

:)

I only count coup on email spammers and phishers.  But the only
way I'm going to get a confirmed kill these days is to nuke China.

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L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III - 13 Feb 2005 23:27 GMT
    I think we'll nuke Syria, Iran, and Korea, but China owns too many
Treasury Bills.
       God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/

> I only count coup on email spammers and phishers.  But the only
> way I'm going to get a confirmed kill these days is to nuke China.
>
> --
> DougW
DougW - 13 Feb 2005 23:39 GMT
L.W. ("?ill") Hughes III did pass the time by typing:
>     I think we'll nuke Syria, Iran, and Korea, but China owns too many

What they can't collect on we don't owe. :)
L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III - 13 Feb 2005 23:45 GMT
Japan, Germany? :-)

> What they can't collect on we don't owe. :)
L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III - 13 Feb 2005 22:09 GMT
    That's OK, just tell how it feels to have to use a dialup again.
:-)
       God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/

> DougW,
><Snip>
D-WALL - 13 Feb 2005 23:01 GMT
In response to Bill L. W. Hughes III's message,

What do you mean by "tell how it feels to have to use dialup again."
L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III - 13 Feb 2005 23:20 GMT
    Well it's Sunday, and obviously you're still transmitting from
ip70-178-181-32.ma.dl.cox.net. So, I guess I'll have to wait until
Monday for you to figure it out. :-)
       God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/

> What do you mean by "tell how it feels to have to use dialup again."
Mike Romain - 14 Feb 2005 14:41 GMT
> In response to Bill L. W. Hughes III's message,
>
> What do you mean by "tell how it feels to have to use dialup again."

This newsgroup has a Charter.  The Charter is located here:

ftp://ftp.uu.net/usenet/news.announce.newgroups/rec/rec.autos.makers.jeep+willys

If you check with your ISP, you will find they frown on folks purposely
coming in to disrupt groups with off topic bull sh.t and if enough
complaints get sent to them, you 'could' lose your account.  It has
happened in the past.

Lots of groups are 'free for all's' folks think.  This isn't one of
them.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
DougW - 13 Feb 2005 22:10 GMT
D-WALL did pass the time by typing:
> DougW,
>
>     I am truly sorry for all of the problems in the past 24 hours.  It
> seems that a friend of mine has accessed my Google Groups account and
> password and has been leaving messages.

"stuff happens"

Given the way the posts showed up I had a feeling someone might have
been posting from your account even though the google ID was different.
My first guess was a younger brother given the language.

As for the bogger question, these links might help.  I don't run boggers.

http://www.4wheeloffroad.com/techarticles/28358/
http://la4x4.com/jeeps.htm  (local jeep clubs are a good source of info)

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D-WALL - 13 Feb 2005 22:17 GMT
    I thank you for your understanding.  As for the younger brother
situation, that is who was on the account of "redneckco2007."
    Please explain what Bill L. W. Hughes III is meaning by all of his
comments. He left many comments that i didnt understand and then he
just recently left a comment stating, "tell us how it feels to have to
use dialup."  If you can explain this last comment and all the other
comments, please do.
  Thank you for your understanding and assistance with the matter at
hand.
L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III - 13 Feb 2005 22:39 GMT
AKA Ted, you may snow a Snow bird, but you can't sh*t, a Sh*t bird.
       God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/

><snip>
L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III - 13 Feb 2005 22:36 GMT
Hi Doug,
    I had to laugh at this Bogger "test". You saw none of the wheels
were caked in mud? http://www.4wheeloffroad.com/techarticles/28358/ 
       God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/

> "stuff happens"
>
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> --
> DougW
L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III - 13 Feb 2005 23:14 GMT
    Like their rims should have at least looked like this Real Jeep's:
http://www.film.queensu.ca/CJ3B/Photos/Owners/WilsonDoug/WilsonMud.JPG

"L.W.(ßill) Hughes III" wrote:

> Hi Doug,
>      I had to laugh at this Bogger "test". You saw none of the wheels
> were caked in mud? http://www.4wheeloffroad.com/techarticles/28358/
>         God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/
griffin - 13 Feb 2005 23:34 GMT
The way they tested the tires in the 4wheeloffroad link was by a speed run
through a mud strip. The picture you just posted looks to be a crawl through
a mud trail, which would allow the mud to cake inside the rims. The
speed-trial would fling the mud outwards from the force and not cake as much
(which is the signature of a good mud-tire, if I'm not mistaken). Also, you
can tell they cleaned the tires afterwards to some degree so that they could
show which tire was tested by making the name visible. Quite obvious in
http://4wheeloffroad.com/techarticles/p82771_image_large.jpg

>      Like their rims should have at least looked like this Real Jeep's:
> http://www.film.queensu.ca/CJ3B/Photos/Owners/WilsonDoug/WilsonMud.JPG
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> >         God Bless America, ?ill O|||||||O
> > mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/
L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III - 13 Feb 2005 06:20 GMT
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            From:
                  "D-WALL" <flashboy90@hotmail.com>
      Newsgroups:
                  rec.autos.makers.jeep+willys
          Subject:
                  Re: boggers
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alan smith  loves black people   he once had a 3 way with 2 black girls
D-WALL - 13 Feb 2005 03:54 GMT
alan smith of dubach louisiana  fone number 1 318 251 3229  is the
gayest man to ever walk the face of the earht  he went to jail for
raping his own mother
 
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