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Car Forum / Jeep / February 2005Pictures for you web wheelers.
I went tornado and puddle chasing here in our recent bad socal rainy weather. http://members17.clubphoto.com/kevin739017/owner-9327-1.phtml KH > I went tornado and puddle chasing here in our recent bad socal rainy > weather. > http://members17.clubphoto.com/kevin739017/owner-9327-1.phtml > KH Very nice pictures, looks like a lot of fun was had on that trip, I am jealous though, my XJ is only 2WD *sniff*. Adonis Sheesh! You guys just don't understand WET weather! :) That looks like a fairly normal (at least once a summer) heavy rain with a few straight line winds in front of the thunderstorm for Minnesota/ Wisconsin!!! > I went tornado and puddle chasing here in our recent bad socal rainy > weather. > http://members17.clubphoto.com/kevin739017/owner-9327-1.phtml > KH I won't drive out on adobe after a rain! God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ > I went tornado and puddle chasing here in our recent bad socal rainy > weather. > http://members17.clubphoto.com/kevin739017/owner-9327-1.phtml > KH Yup - what I've heard described as 'slicker than snot on a door knob'. Worse than snow any day - slidng sideways down a 7% grade! On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 06:21:57 UTC L.W.(ßill) Hughes III <billhughes@cox.net> wrote: > I won't drive out on adobe after a rain! > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > http://members17.clubphoto.com/kevin739017/owner-9327-1.phtml > > KH  SignatureWill Honea yes, that clay has a powerful vacuum. That guy who drove on that lawn was a total moron. KH > Yup - what I've heard described as 'slicker than snot on a door knob'. > Worse than snow any day - slidng sideways down a 7% grade! [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >> > http://members17.clubphoto.com/kevin739017/owner-9327-1.phtml >> > KH Other types of dirt seem to contain the water near the surface, with adobe there's no bottom, once you break through the top. God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ > Yup - what I've heard described as 'slicker than snot on a door knob'. > Worse than snow any day - slidng sideways down a 7% grade! http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=thixotropic Dave Milne, Scotland '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ > Other types of dirt seem to contain the water near the surface, > with adobe there's no bottom, once you break through the top. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Yup - what I've heard described as 'slicker than snot on a door knob'. > > Worse than snow any day - slidng sideways down a 7% grade! OK. All I can tell you is the only still standing in California form three hundred years ago are the Spanish Missions made with adobe. That must seem funny to you when you see man made things from thousands of years ago. God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ > http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=thixotropic > > Dave Milne, Scotland > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ 300 years for mud isn't bad. I'm still amazed by how our ancestors managed to build Stone Henge out of stone ( not far off 5000 years old). They dragged some of the smaller 4 ton blue stones from the Preseli mountains in Wales 240 miles !!! [dont ask me why !]. http://members.tripod.com/~k_two/mysteries/stonehenge.htm http://www.theheritagetrail.co.uk/early%20ages/stonehenge.htm Dave Milne, Scotland '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ > OK. All I can tell you is the only still standing in California > form three hundred years ago are the Spanish Missions made with adobe. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Dave Milne, Scotland > > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ Drag them, or did our ancestors use anti gravity devices they brought with them, to build the pyramids, and laser cut stone to fit the buildings of ancient South America? God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ > 300 years for mud isn't bad. > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Dave Milne, Scotland > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ sounds like an Erich von Daniken theory :-) Dave Milne, Scotland '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ > Drag them, or did our ancestors use anti gravity devices they > brought with them, to build the pyramids, and laser cut stone to fit the [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Dave Milne, Scotland > > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ Chariots of the Gods. The Dead Sea Scrolls, make many references to angles that could only be exterrestrials by description. God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ > sounds like an Erich von Daniken theory :-) > > Dave Milne, Scotland > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ Sounds like you've been listening to the preacher from the high desert - Art Bell -Brian > Chariots of the Gods. The Dead Sea Scrolls, make many references to > angles that could only be exterrestrials by description. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >> Dave Milne, Scotland >> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ Hi Brian, And I'll be watching Peter Jennings tonight: http://www.billhughes.com/peterJen.jpg It helps to see one, as I did when I was ten years old playing tether ball with friends and watch a silver tear drop shaped object fly over us, split into three equal black round things and continue on towards the horizon and out of sight. We don't have anything yet that can do that. God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com > Sounds like you've been listening to the preacher from the high desert - Art > Bell > > -Brian L.W.(ßill) Hughes III proclaimed: > Hi Brian, > And I'll be watching Peter Jennings tonight: [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > towards the horizon and out of sight. We don't have anything yet that > can do that. Sure we do. Even the president has apparently admitted consumption. Personally I've always wondered about why some folks always think that extra-terrestrial intelligence always seems to consist of nothing but little grey traveling proctologists. I suppose you know when the U-2 and B-1 first flew. God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ > Sure we do. Even the president has apparently admitted consumption. > > Personally I've always wondered about why some folks always think that > extra-terrestrial intelligence always seems to consist of nothing but > little grey traveling proctologists. You forgot the SR-71 I got to see that plane in person several times and work with the crew chief on one at Castle AFB in the 90s before they shut that program down. KH > I suppose you know when the U-2 and B-1 first flew. > God Bless America, ?ill O|||||||O [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >> extra-terrestrial intelligence always seems to consist of nothing but >> little grey traveling proctologists. Kevin in San Diego proclaimed: > You forgot the SR-71 I got to see that plane in person several times and > work with the crew chief on one at Castle AFB in the 90s before they shut > that program down. > KH Coolest two ordinary craft I was ever lucky enough to see airborne were the B-70 and the first semi-public showing of the MickeyDee F15. The other stuff was more impressive, lotsa "happy 4th of July" moments at White Sands and affiliated launch sites--and several rather strange ones of truly oddball technology guaranteed to cause saucer reports. I remember doing a book report and building a paper-and-cardboard model of the B-70 in 4th grade, circa 1979...there was a book on it in the school library. Of course by the time I got to it the B70 program was no longer around. Never saw an SR-71 in flight but I did see the one (amongst a lot of other really neat stuff) at the American Air Museum at Duxford, UK a couple years ago. The final flight crew had signed all their names on the inside of the forward landing gear door. http://aam.iwm.org.uk/server/show/ConWebDoc.1105 > Coolest two ordinary craft I was ever lucky enough to see airborne > were the B-70 and the first semi-public showing of the MickeyDee > F15. The other stuff was more impressive, lotsa "happy 4th of July" > moments at White Sands and affiliated launch sites--and several > rather strange ones of truly oddball technology guaranteed to cause > saucer reports. Matt Macchiarolo proclaimed: > I remember doing a book report and building a paper-and-cardboard model of > the B-70 in 4th grade, circa 1979...there was a book on it in the school > library. Of course by the time I got to it the B70 program was no longer > around. When I was at Wright Patt, there was a B70 parked outside at the Air Force museum, worth seeing even parked. In flight it looked like a Concorde on steroids and crank. Interesting - didnt know there was a SR-71 here. Must go and have a look. Dave SignatureDave Milne, Scotland '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ > I remember doing a book report and building a paper-and-cardboard model of > the B-70 in 4th grade, circa 1979...there was a book on it in the school [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > rather strange ones of truly oddball technology guaranteed to cause > > saucer reports. http://aam.iwm.org.uk/server/show/ConWebDoc.1134 > Interesting - didnt know there was a SR-71 here. Must go and have a look. > [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] >> > rather strange ones of truly oddball technology guaranteed to cause >> > saucer reports. http://www.area51zone.com/aircraft/sr71.shtml God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ > You forgot the SR-71 I got to see that plane in person several times and > work with the crew chief on one at Castle AFB in the 90s before they shut > that program down. > KH L.W.(ßill) Hughes III proclaimed: > I suppose you know when the U-2 and B-1 first flew. Might just know more about that sh.t than you'll ever be privy to. Not even the President of the United States knew about the U-2 until after it was shot down. God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ > Might just know more about that sh.t than you'll ever be privy to. Can you provide me reference to this ...I've heard otherwise from a number of sources. I've heard that Eisenhower was aware of and supported the creation of the U2 as early as 1954. > Not even the President of the United States knew about the U-2 > until after it was shot down. > God Bless America, ?ill O|||||||O > mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ Like pretty much everything non-Jeep, the only evidence he could provide would be written on a small roll of soft paper that has convenient perforations allowing it to be separated into sheets as needed. Now granted the CIA may not be the best source of information, but their declassified U2 project report notes that Eisenhower was aware of the flights from the beginning [1956] but was against them due to the risks involved. A similar claim was made by Harry Stine, who would be suspected of knowing... griffin proclaimed: > Can you provide me reference to this ...I've heard otherwise from a number > of sources. I've heard that Eisenhower was aware of and supported the [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O >>mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ I remember Eisenhower going on television and saying it was not ours. God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ > Can you provide me reference to this ...I've heard otherwise from a number > of sources. I've heard that Eisenhower was aware of and supported the > creation of the U2 as early as 1954. Much later Eisenhower apologized to the Americans: http://encarta.msn.com/media_461547301_761568583_-1_1/Eisenhower_Explains_U-2_De ception.html "L.W.(ßill) Hughes III" wrote: > I remember Eisenhower going on television and saying it was not > ours. > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ A president during the Cold War publicly denying the existence of a spy plane? Surely not. :-) > I remember Eisenhower going on television and saying it was not > ours. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >> of sources. I've heard that Eisenhower was aware of and supported the >> creation of the U2 as early as 1954. FDR didn't exactly publicize the Manhattan Project either. >A president during the Cold War publicly denying the existence of a spy >plane? [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >>> of sources. I've heard that Eisenhower was aware of and supported the >>> creation of the U2 as early as 1954. I felt at the time he denied the existence of the U-2, remember the public had no knowledge of it, just like our Aurora. God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ > A president during the Cold War publicly denying the existence of a spy > plane? > > Surely not. > > :-) Like we American knew they had out pilot, but we didn't have a high attitude plane so it must have been another Russia propaganda stunt. > I felt at the time he denied the existence of the U-2, remember the > public had no knowledge of it, just like our Aurora. > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ Not unexpected. A fairly modest overview of the project is available here: http://www.cia.gov/csi/books/U2/ A rather large collection of links here: http://www.eisenhower.archives.gov/dl/U2Incident/u2documents.html More here: [need to search] http://www.odci.gov/cia/siteindex.html#Pubs L.W.(ßill) Hughes III proclaimed: > I remember Eisenhower going on television and saying it was not > ours. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >>of sources. I've heard that Eisenhower was aware of and supported the >>creation of the U2 as early as 1954. I find it interesting that President Eisenhower, president during the whole program, his term '52 to '60 is conspicuously absent. Many of the pages still blacked out for security reasons, like Project Blue Book.. God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ > Not unexpected. A fairly modest overview of the project is available > here: http://www.cia.gov/csi/books/U2/ [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > http://www.odci.gov/cia/siteindex.html#Pubs Do you see Eisenhower's signature on this covering their a** document? http://www.eisenhower.archives.gov/dl/U2Incident/DepartmentStatementonU25560.pdf God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ > Can you provide me reference to this ...I've heard otherwise from a number > of sources. I've heard that Eisenhower was aware of and supported the > creation of the U2 as early as 1954. I meant this initial build request document: http://www.eisenhower.archives.gov/dl/U2Incident/MemConfDDEonNov241954.pdf "L.W.(ßill) Hughes III" wrote: > Do you see Eisenhower's signature on this covering their a** > document? Might tell me about the Aurora, out of Groom Lake. God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ > Might just know more about that sh.t than you'll ever be privy to. L.W.(ßill) Hughes III proclaimed: > Might tell me about the Aurora, out of Groom Lake. Go back to your self delusions little man, and dream of little gray travelling doctors. http://www.area51zone.com/aircraft/aurora8.jpg God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ > Go back to your self delusions little man, and dream of > little gray travelling doctors. http://tonytalkstech.com/2004/11/17/nasas-x-43a-scramjet-test-is-a-success/ God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ > Go back to your self delusions little man, and dream of > little gray travelling doctors. |
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