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Car Forum / Jeep / March 2005

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JPribe - 21 Mar 2005 05:55 GMT
Someone plz remind me if drums are supposed to drag a little bit...I
mean a *little* bit.  Went around on all four corners yesterday, drums
were pretty dirty and pretty loose, I tweaked them a bit and changed out
front rotors and pads, now I get a left pull on braking that matches
pressure to the pedal.  As an aside, my front left rotor was blued, so I
will be doing all around brake bleeds tomorrow, and I will be crossing
my fingers....

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Ervin Charles - 23 Mar 2005 05:01 GMT
JPribe,
  Drum brakes should be adjusted with the wheel off the ground and to the
point that you just her them dragging a little when you spin the wheel.
After this first adjustment, step on the brake pedal a few times to make
sure the shoes are centered inside the drum. Adjust the shoes again if the
slight dragging sound has gone away. Repeat till you get the same sound
before and after brake application.
C. Ervin

Someone plz remind me if drums are supposed to drag a little bit...I
mean a *little* bit.  Went around on all four corners yesterday, drums
were pretty dirty and pretty loose, I tweaked them a bit and changed out
front rotors and pads, now I get a left pull on braking that matches
pressure to the pedal.  As an aside, my front left rotor was blued, so I
will be doing all around brake bleeds tomorrow, and I will be crossing
my fingers....

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JohnM - 23 Mar 2005 23:31 GMT
> Someone plz remind me if drums are supposed to drag a little bit...I
> mean a *little* bit.  Went around on all four corners yesterday, drums
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> will be doing all around brake bleeds tomorrow, and I will be crossing
> my fingers....

No, drums should not drag even a little bit.

Sometimes a sticky caliper will act normal if you retract it fully with
a C-clamp, and sometimes not. Check the right front caliper to ensure
it's doing its job correctly too.

John
DaveW - 24 Mar 2005 07:01 GMT
>> Someone plz remind me if drums are supposed to drag a little bit...I
>> mean a *little* bit.  Went around on all four corners yesterday, drums
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
> John

I beg to differ. First of all, drum brakes don't' have calipers. Second,
it depends on the situation. With new brake shoes, the rough surface
should drag a bit on instillation. This wears off very quickly. If you
adjust things so that no drag is felt at all, you will have a very low
pedal and not much braking. Having owned 5 4 wheel drum brake cars in my
lifetime, and several rear drum/front disc vehicles, I've been there,
done that. On a relining job, most cars should be put together so that
the drum is noticeably difficult to turn with the wheel off.

One the brake shoes have worn a bit (doesn't take much, a day or so of
ordinary driving), if you take things apart, they should be put together
 one "click" before they start to drag. By that time, the rough edges
have worn off and the shoes have conformed to the drums.

Just my experience.

DAve
JohnM - 31 Mar 2005 08:46 GMT
>>> Someone plz remind me if drums are supposed to drag a little bit...I
>>> mean a *little* bit.  Went around on all four corners yesterday,
[quoted text clipped - 29 lines]
>
> DAve

Hey- who said I said drum brakes have a caliper? New paragraph, new
subject (reread the original post, he asked about his left-front rotor
also).

New shoes, yeah they can touch the drum lightly. The context I got
(which might be wrong) was adjusting existing shoes. Me, I hate a brake
that drags even a little.

Hmm.. I got 4 4wd machines in the yard (53 Willys wagon, '73 Ford 3/4
ton with front drums and enclosed-knuckle axle, '69 Jeepster, '78 GMC
1/2 ton) and a '44 GMC 2&1/2 ton, plus 3 or 4 parts machines. I got so
much stuff it ain't funny..

Anyway, I don't think we're differing that much, just in context and
maybe how you took what I wrote.

John
 
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