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Car Forum / Jeep / March 2005

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Parts falling out from under dashboard - Black-box

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Jay Pique - 29 Mar 2005 02:55 GMT
So a little black-box with a circuit board inside fell onto the floor
today.  It appears to have been duct-taped up under the dash, but
wasn't connected to the plug-in wire thingy leading to god knows
where.

Any thoughts or suggestions on what I should do with it?  What's it
for?

JP
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HomeBrewer - 29 Mar 2005 03:07 GMT
I assume its a jeep vehicle...if so it's the intermittent wiper controller.
If you don't want intermittent wipers sell it on ebay for ~$50.

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> So a little black-box with a circuit board inside fell onto the floor
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L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III - 29 Mar 2005 03:27 GMT
    Global Positioning System and transmitter.
       God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/

> So a little black-box with a circuit board inside fell onto the floor
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Jay Pique - 29 Mar 2005 05:32 GMT
On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 18:27:08 -0800, L.W.(ßill) Hughes III
<billhughes@cox.net> wrote:

>     Global Positioning System and transmitter.

Hehehe....  That's sort of what I was hoping for!  In any event, it's
not the intermittent wiper controller because those still work.  What
doesn't work is the cruise control.  Could that be it?

JP
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Rookie.

>        God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/
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L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III - 29 Mar 2005 07:25 GMT
    Maybe, if your wife had her private investigator install that, too.
Out side of some really cheap radio shop installers, duck tape's not
used.
       God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/

> Hehehe....  That's sort of what I was hoping for!  In any event, it's
> not the intermittent wiper controller because those still work.  What
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Mike Romain - 29 Mar 2005 15:00 GMT
Actually Bill, AMC 'did' use a whole bunch of 'duct tape' when they
built the Jeeps I have seen.  It is used on some under dash parts and on
the wiring harness all over in places like the resistor wire's crimp
connectors and stuff.

I thought I was seeing 'custom' wiring until I saw the 3rd or 4th the
same way.

I don't know where the cruise module is on the OP's mystery Jeep, but on
the CJ's they were on the side of the steering column under the dash on
top of the emission maintenance timer box.  It could be either of those
maybe but a box size might help and a type of Jeep.....

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

"L.W.(ßill) Hughes III" wrote:

>      Maybe, if your wife had her private investigator install that, too.
> Out side of some really cheap radio shop installers, duck tape's not
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Lee Ayrton - 29 Mar 2005 18:23 GMT
This was certainly true of the 1978 and 1979 CJ harnesses I pulled apart.
It looked like they used duct tape (applied very haphazardly) when looming
up the harnesses before applying the black stretch wrap.

> Actually Bill, AMC 'did' use a whole bunch of 'duct tape' when they
> built the Jeeps I have seen.  It is used on some under dash parts and on
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Jay Pique - 29 Mar 2005 22:20 GMT
>Actually Bill, AMC 'did' use a whole bunch of 'duct tape' when they
>built the Jeeps I have seen.  It is used on some under dash parts and on
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>top of the emission maintenance timer box.  It could be either of those
>maybe but a box size might help and a type of Jeep.....

It's just over an inch thick, and is roughly 6 inches square.  It
pulls apart into 2 halves (each 6 inches square) to reveal a circuit
board with two small adjustable dials (Low Speed and Centering
Adjustment) and similarly sized white one kitty-corner from the first
two (Sensitivity Adjustment).  Could this be a power braking thingy
for towing trailers?

JP

>Mike
>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
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jdarg - 30 Mar 2005 01:14 GMT
That's definitely the cruise control box - it sounds just like the one
that was in my '82 AMC concord.

-jdarg

> >Actually Bill, AMC 'did' use a whole bunch of 'duct tape' when they
> >built the Jeeps I have seen.  It is used on some under dash parts and on
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Jay Pique - 30 Mar 2005 15:12 GMT
>That's definitely the cruise control box - it sounds just like the one
>that was in my '82 AMC concord.

Yep - I agree with you.  It's definitely the cruise box.  So I hooked
it back up to the wires, but CC still doesn't work.

I think I need a good repair manual.

JP

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Drifter - 30 Mar 2005 02:39 GMT
>>Actually Bill, AMC 'did' use a whole bunch of 'duct tape' when they
>>built the Jeeps I have seen.  It is used on some under dash parts and on
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>two (Sensitivity Adjustment).  Could this be a power braking thingy
>for towing trailers?

Really sounds like the cruise control module to me.  Does it look sort
of like this only black?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=6763&item=7964
874623


Drifter
"I've been here, I've been there..."
Odd-Inge - 29 Mar 2005 09:12 GMT
The intermittend wiper control on my 1990 Cherokee has a plug in each end.

A more likly candidate could be the box that controls the warning light for
emission. It is normal to unplug this when the light comes on. Difficult to
reset :-)

But this all depends on year and model I guess. On newer cars I would guess
that this gizmo is computer controlled.

regards
Odd-Inge

> So a little black-box with a circuit board inside fell onto the floor
> today.  It appears to have been duct-taped up under the dash, but
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Bubba Kahuna (only 1 'J' in my address) - 31 Mar 2005 17:02 GMT
> So a little black-box with a circuit board inside fell onto the floor
> today.  It appears to have been duct-taped up under the dash, but
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> Googling...

If you bought the Jeep used, it might also be a remote starter. I found
something like that in my Astro and whadda ya know? Contacted the
manufacturer after figuring out what it was, and now that I bought a
replacement remote unit, I can start the van from inside the house on
cold days. Sweet!

The harness on these usualy looks pretty stock, and disapears into the
column wiring. Take a good hard look at the unit (take it back out) and
look for a website or serial numbers, FCC code or anything else you can
find. That'll tell you exactly what it really is. Even a part number
will help.

Cheers,
 - Jeff G
 
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