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Car Forum / Jeep / June 2005How to get three carseats in a Wrangler
A friend's wife is about to have triplets (no joke). We can't figure out how to get the whole family in his Wrangler. He thinks he may have to sell it. > A friend's wife is about to have triplets (no joke). We can't figure > out how to get the whole family in his Wrangler. He thinks he may > have to sell it. So do I. <G> Maybe if you ditch the rear seat, you can mount two facing forward, and one backward? <G> Sorry, this is the only model Jeep Wrangler that your friend will be driving from now on: http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.gsp?product_id=3765493 My three sons fit just fine on the back seat of my Cherokee, car-seats and all. Steve http://xjeep.dyndns.org > A friend's wife is about to have triplets (no joke). We can't figure > out how to get the whole family in his Wrangler. He thinks he may > have to sell it. I feel compelled to say this about Steve <steve@xjeep.dyndns.org>'s comments: >Sorry, this is the only model Jeep Wrangler that your friend will be >driving from now on: > > http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.gsp?product_id=3765493 LOL ... thanks >My three sons fit just fine on the back seat of my Cherokee, car-seats >and all. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >> out how to get the whole family in his Wrangler. He thinks he may >> have to sell it. Yeah.. good luck, .. We had a pretty good sized snowstorm here in michigan, and I had to cram my 2 year old, my 1 month old, and my wife and I into my wrangler. That was a long drive with my knees against the dashboard. Not a lot of fun. I sold a Wrangler to a guy who has 3 kids ...I sent him to a local custom truck shop in Houston (Cutten Customs) and they welded a piece of pipe (like the rollbar) from one end of the rear to the other right under the top of the rear seat.. They added 3 harnes style seat belts for the kids...I will take a pic and post it if interested! -- Jarod Sprauer Talk is JEEP at www.sprauermotorsports.com 281-807-JEEP (5337) > A friend's wife is about to have triplets (no joke). We can't figure > out how to get the whole family in his Wrangler. He thinks he may > have to sell it. I feel compelled to say this about "IsellJeeps" <jsprauer2000@yahoo.com>'s comments: >I sold a Wrangler to a guy who has 3 kids ...I sent him to a local custom >truck shop in Houston (Cutten Customs) and they welded a piece of pipe (like >the rollbar) from one end of the rear to the other right under the top of >the rear seat.. They added 3 harnes style seat belts for the kids...I will >take a pic and post it if interested! That would be great if it's not too much trouble. I believe he paid about 500 total for the welding and all the harnes belts > I feel compelled to say this about "IsellJeeps" > <jsprauer2000@yahoo.com>'s comments: [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > That would be great if it's not too much trouble. Or, he can put the extras up for adoption. Three car seats are not gonna fit in a Wrangler. > A friend's wife is about to have triplets (no joke). We can't figure > out how to get the whole family in his Wrangler. He thinks he may > have to sell it. That's very nasty Jeff. A kinder solution is to get a little wipe-clean trailer where they can yell, puke and fill their underpants unseen and unheard :-) Dave Milne, Scotland '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ > Or, he can put the extras up for adoption. Three car seats are not gonna fit > in a Wrangler. Or he could sell one and use the money for more jeep accessories. :-) Patrick Ô¿Ô > Or, he can put the extras up for adoption. Three car seats are not gonna > fit [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >> out how to get the whole family in his Wrangler. He thinks he may >> have to sell it. >A friend's wife is about to have triplets (no joke). We can't figure >out how to get the whole family in his Wrangler. He thinks he may >have to sell it. I took the back seat out , put in a thick comforter. That way the dog and I get a seat and everone else gets to lay down... Joe Carroll 2K-TJ There are some simple truths...And the dogs know what they are." Joseph Duemer LOL, Those days are long gone, now three hundred bucks first offense for not have your up to sixty five pound kid belted in their special car seat. My kids rode in back of my Jeeps and pickups without seats. God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ > I took the back seat out , put in a thick comforter. That way the dog > and I get a seat and everone else gets to lay down... [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > There are some simple truths...And the dogs know what they are." > Joseph Duemer On Wed, 01 Jun 2005 14:21:12 -0700, L.W.(ßill) Hughes III <billhughes@cox.net> wrote: > LOL, Those days are long gone, now three hundred bucks first >offense for not have your up to sixty five pound kid belted in their >special car seat. My kids rode in back of my Jeeps and pickups without >seats. My kids and the dog rode in the back of pickups hanging out the side but those days are long gone also... Joe Carroll 2K-TJ There are some simple truths...And the dogs know what they are." Joseph Duemer My Dad's kids rode in the back with the dog, standing up. But those days are long gone, now they put your nuts in a vice and squeeze until $300 pops out. > On Wed, 01 Jun 2005 14:21:12 -0700, L.W.(ßill) Hughes III > <billhughes@cox.net> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > There are some simple truths...And the dogs know what they are." > Joseph Duemer Fortunately, they aren't that strict here. It's probably an offence, but you are unlikely to get more than a telling off. Dave Milne, Scotland '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ > My Dad's kids rode in the back with the dog, standing up. But those days are > long gone, now they put your nuts in a vice and squeeze until $300 pops out. We just had our "click it or ticket" revenue enhancement program for Kalifornia: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=%22click+it+or+ticket%22+reve nue+enhancement&btnG=Google+Search God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ > Fortunately, they aren't that strict here. It's probably an offence, but you > are unlikely to get more than a telling off. > > Dave Milne, Scotland > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ Would that include you, or are you not one of your dad's kids? That is how I learned not to spit into the wind, we used to always ride in the back of my grandfathers truck. Patrick Ô¿Ô > My Dad's kids rode in the back with the dog, standing up. But those days > are [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] >> There are some simple truths...And the dogs know what they are." >> Joseph Duemer L.W.(ßill) Hughes III wrote: > My kids rode in back of my pickups without > seats. I did that when I was a kid! As dangerous as it was, the memories of those summer nights in the back of the truck are great! Barry That is still legal up here last time I checked. It was a while back, but. I called when I moved to this province and specifically asked about passengers in the back of my pickup truck and was told as long as they are sitting on the floor of the bed, it was still legal. They weren't allowed to sit on the wheel well. I didn't ask about kids though, just passengers. I have driven lots of times with no back seat in my CJ7 and a passenger sitting on the floor. I have been followed by cops while doing this and they didn't seem too worried about it. They didn't say anything.... Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's "L.W.(ßill) Hughes III" wrote: > LOL, Those days are long gone, now three hundred bucks first > offense for not have your up to sixty five pound kid belted in their [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > There are some simple truths...And the dogs know what they are." > > Joseph Duemer I used to ride in my dad's '76 or so CJ that had a half top and bucket seats. I sat in the middle on top of a 5 gallon bucket. I would have been pretty hurt in an accident but all this sh.t is based on 'what ifs.' As far as i'm concerned they can take their 'click it or ticket' and they can 'stick it and suck it' No reason to piss all over everyone's parade just because it 'might' happen. Hell I ride my motorcycle with no seatbelt yet sitting inside a metal cage with airbags is less safe? C'mon... Shawn > LOL, Those days are long gone, now three hundred bucks first > offense for not have your up to sixty five pound kid belted in their [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >> There are some simple truths...And the dogs know what they are." >> Joseph Duemer I'd goto a custom shop and get them to make a "roller-coaster" style seat ...basically a one-peice that bolts where the back seat is and can buckle all three in. Probably cost a lot ...but it's a solution (possibly). Check with the DMV or the police or whatever you have there and make sure it's legal. > A friend's wife is about to have triplets (no joke). We can't figure > out how to get the whole family in his Wrangler. He thinks he may > have to sell it. >> A friend's wife is about to have triplets (no joke). We can't figure >> out how to get the whole family in his Wrangler. He thinks he may >> have to sell it. No offense intended - I love Wranglers - but they are not the safest vehicles on the road and with triplets he should get a different vehicle with better street handling and crash protection. John Davies Hi John, I'm probably the most pessimistic person you'll find, but I don't plan to crash on the road, and I've always drove defensively, so in over fifty years of driving legally, I've never crashed (on road). So the type of car I drove wouldn't have made any difference with my kids safety: http://www.billhughes.com/ other than they most have been more uncomfortable than most. God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com > >> A friend's wife is about to have triplets (no joke). We can't figure > >> out how to get the whole family in his Wrangler. He thinks he may [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > John Davies I feel compelled to say this about L.W.(ßill) Hughes III <billhughes@cox.net>'s comments: >Hi John, > I'm probably the most pessimistic person you'll find, but I don't [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >safety: http://www.billhughes.com/ other than they most have been more >uncomfortable than most. That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. Just because you've been fortunate enough to not have been involved in a crash doesn't mean you won't in the future. Have you seen those police chase shows where someone is t-boned at an intersection by a fleeing criminal? It doesn't matter how well the victim was driving. Accidents happen. It makes sense to be as protected as possible. > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O >mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >> >> John Davies I truly believe you could aim for me and there's no way I would let you hit me. As I said I drive defensively. I look for people that think they can run a stop sign, as I used to ride Harleys: http://www.billhughes.com/sportser.jpg So God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com > That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. Just because you've been > fortunate enough to not have been involved in a crash doesn't mean you > won't in the future. Have you seen those police chase shows where > someone is t-boned at an intersection by a fleeing criminal? It > doesn't matter how well the victim was driving. Accidents happen. It > makes sense to be as protected as possible. John, no BS, insurance industry actuarial data shows the Wrangler actually "safer than average" in terms of occupant protection and "less expensive than average" to repair after an accident. They are heavier than most cars, have a stronger frame than most cars (especially since few cars have frames anymore), and have a stronger body than most cars. The insurance website that actuarial information used to be on that I mentioned is, unfortunately, no longer online. But I referred people to it for several years when assuring them the Wrangler is a much safer vehicle than most would ever guess it to be. No jive, I was shocked myself when someone gave me the link to it. Too bad the link is dead now. Jerry >>>A friend's wife is about to have triplets (no joke). We can't figure >>>out how to get the whole family in his Wrangler. He thinks he may [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > John Davies  SignatureJerry Bransford PP-ASEL N6TAY See the Geezer Jeep at http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ > John, no BS, insurance industry actuarial data shows the Wrangler > actually "safer than average" in terms of occupant protection and "less > expensive than average" to repair after an accident. My insurance co. lists vehicles as "symbols" based on all kinds of data. My '99 dark green TJ Sport is quite a bit more expensive to insure than my 2005 Radar Red Toyota Tacoma V6 4x4 TRD Access Cab. The Jeep is even listed as a "non-cummuter". The Jeep is two notches up the scale from the 4x4 Tacoma, and was even farther from a 2001 Subaru AWD Outback, which truly is a "safe" car. So, if it's safer and cheaper to repair than average, it means I'm getting killed on liability. > > John, no BS, insurance industry actuarial data shows the Wrangler > > actually "safer than average" in terms of occupant protection and "less [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > So, if it's safer and cheaper to repair than average, it means I'm > getting killed on liability. You got that right, my CJ7 is half the cost of my Cherokee for the exact same coverage and they both are old beaters within 2 years of each other. I have also see some crash test stuff on the Wrangler that put it right up there. Don't remember where, TV for sure. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's Hi Mike, I can imagine a head-on crash with a Subaru and the Jeep driver walking away. God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ > You got that right, my CJ7 is half the cost of my Cherokee for the exact > same coverage and they both are old beaters within 2 years of each [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's Switch insurance companies: http://www.billhughes.com/wawanesa05.jpg God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com > My insurance co. lists vehicles as "symbols" based on all kinds of data. > My '99 dark green TJ Sport is quite a bit more expensive to insure [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > So, if it's safer and cheaper to repair than average, it means I'm > getting killed on liability. L.W.(ßill) Hughes III wrote: > Switch insurance companies: Brilliant! I never thought of that. <G> Actually, I've shopped all the discounters, like Geico and Progressive and they are the same, or higher, once my home owner's discount is factored in. The '99 TJ Sport costs more for me to insure than a fully loaded '05 4x4 Taco. Maybe it's a regional statistic thing? This weekend, I'll pull out the declarations sheet and provide more details. Barry I get my insurance through the Credit Union. $651 per year for 300K coverage. > L.W.(ßill) Hughes III wrote: >> Switch insurance companies: [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Barry >John, no BS, insurance industry actuarial data shows the Wrangler >actually "safer than average" in terms of occupant protection and "less [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >vehicle than most would ever guess it to be. No jive, I was shocked >myself when someone gave me the link to it. Too bad the link is dead now. Sorry, I just don't buy that line. Maybe it's true compared to older cars without side airbags and modern crumple zone engineering. There is no way an open vehicle with old technology can match a modern car with unibody and side airbags for opccupant protection. I'm not saying the car would survive the hit better, but that the injuries of the folks inside will be significantly less. If I had triplets I would buy the safest car I could afford. Wrangler: http://www.internetautoguide.com/crash-tests/09-int/2004/jeep/wrangler/index.html Saab 9-5: http://www.internetautoguide.com/crash-tests/09-int/2004/saab/9-5/index.html John Davies I believe everyone here would know that comparing these crash tests where the test car just runs into a stationery object comparable to a bride abutment, isn't real life. That's why so many choose gas guzzling SUVs over imports like your Saab. Like if you saw this front-end: http://www.billhughes.com/bronco4.jpg coming at you, it doesn't take much intelligence to know you would be instantly going backwards at about the same speed I hit you. God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com > Sorry, I just don't buy that line. Maybe it's true compared to older > cars without side airbags and modern crumple zone engineering. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > John Davies > Sorry, I just don't buy that line. Maybe it's true compared to older > cars without side airbags and modern crumple zone engineering. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > injuries of the folks inside will be significantly less. If I had > triplets I would buy the safest car I could afford. John, all the engineering is meant to accommodate basic physics, which says that the greater mass wins. That's why the smaller vehicles, with their crumple zones & air bags, get totalled in accidents with larger vehicles that can be inexpensively patched up and put back on the road. B SignatureBrian Heller It is easier to tame wild beasts than to conquer the human mind. >John, all the engineering is meant to accommodate basic physics, which >says that the greater mass wins. That's why the smaller vehicles, with >their crumple zones & air bags, get totalled in accidents with larger >vehicles that can be inexpensively patched up and put back on the road. Nope - a typical unmodified Wrangler is around 3500 pounds. The typical compact sedan is around 3200 pounds, with the larger sedans pushing 4000 or more, so in reality they are pretty equally matched in mass. Equal weights colliding, one with crumple zones and one with tub on a steel frame - guess which one is safer for the occupants? Add a lot of extra mass to one vehicle and yes, the equation changes. The truck I drive weighs 6000 pounds and has heavy offroad bumpers and yes, it will waste any little sedan that gets in the way.. This thread isn't about which vehicle survives a crash with less damage - it's about protecting newborn triplets. Have you ever looked at pics of old wrecked cars? They had thick steel bodies, no crumple zones and no seat belts. Usually the front end was tweaked a little and the left side of the windshield is gone from the driver being thrown forward and killed. The cars were cheap to fix for the widows - they just had to hose out the blood and replace the glass ;( John Davies >>John, all the engineering is meant to accommodate basic physics, which >>says that the greater mass wins. That's why the smaller vehicles, with [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > drive weighs 6000 pounds and has heavy offroad bumpers and yes, it > will waste any little sedan that gets in the way.. I had to chuckle when I read this - last summer my TJ was hit by a Ford F150, squarely on the driver's side front wheel. Fortunately it was a relatively low-speed crash (we both saw it coming and stood on the brakes), but it ended up doing $800 worth of damage to his front bumper, mount, etc. As for the Jeep... well, it needed an alignment, but it needed one before that, so... ;) I was lucky. I am *extremely* well aware of that. But I still find it amusing. (BTW, since I was at fault for the accident, I gave him a check to get his truck repaired. =) ) Tirya SignatureTDC Inca Jeeper A girl and her Jeep... it's a beautiful thing... I think it's great these little imports have crumple zones, they should be able to stop me before I do any real damage to my frame. YOu have notice how week their structures are, like most of them that just hit something like a telephone pole will break in half: http://www.wreckedexotics.com/newphotos/bad/bad095.shtml http://www.wreckedexotics.com/newphotos/bad/bad098.shtml http://www.wreckedexotics.com/newphotos/bad/bad317.shtml http://www.wreckedexotics.com/newphotos/bad/bad075.shtml http://www.wreckedexotics.com/newphotos/bad/bad110.shtml http://www.wreckedexotics.com/newphotos/bad/bad424.shtml http://www.wreckedexotics.com/newphotos/bad/bad430.shtml http://www.wreckedexotics.com/newphotos/bad/bad423.shtml http://www.wreckedexotics.com/newphotos/bad/bad076.shtml http://www.wreckedexotics.com/newphotos/bad/bad433.shtml http://www.wreckedexotics.com/newphotos/bad/bad432.shtml http://www.wreckedexotics.com/newphotos/bad/bad441.shtml http://www.wreckedexotics.com/newphotos/bad/bad538.shtml http://www.wreckedexotics.com/newphotos/bad/bad045.shtml http://www.wreckedexotics.com/newphotos/bad/bad453.shtml http://www.wreckedexotics.com/newphotos/bad/bad537.shtml http://www.wreckedexotics.com/newphotos/bad/bad536.shtml http://www.wreckedexotics.com/newphotos/bad/bad504.shtml http://www.wreckedexotics.com/newphotos/bad/bad503.shtml http://www.wreckedexotics.com/newphotos/bad/bad318.shtml http://www.wreckedexotics.com/newphotos/bad/bad058.shtml http://www.wreckedexotics.com/newphotos/bad/bad555.shtml http://www.wreckedexotics.com/newphotos/bad/bad551.shtml http://www.wreckedexotics.com/newphotos/bad/bad550.shtml http://www.wreckedexotics.com/newphotos/bad/bad541.shtml http://www.wreckedexotics.com/newphotos/bad/bad540.shtml http://www.wreckedexotics.com/newphotos/bad/bad535.shtml http://www.wreckedexotics.com/newphotos/bad/bad529.shtml http://www.wreckedexotics.com/newphotos/bad/bad523.shtml http://www.wreckedexotics.com/newphotos/bad/bad521.shtml http://www.wreckedexotics.com/newphotos/bad/bad511.shtml http://www.wreckedexotics.com/newphotos/bad/bad510.shtml http://www.wreckedexotics.com/newphotos/bad/bad449.shtml http://www.wreckedexotics.com/newphotos/bad/bad428.shtml http://67.19.177.10/newphotos/bad/bad560.jpg God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ > Nope - a typical unmodified Wrangler is around 3500 pounds. The > typical compact sedan is around 3200 pounds, with the larger sedans [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > John Davies That top one is a Camaro isn't it ? Dave Milne, Scotland '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ > I think it's great these little imports have crumple zones, they > should be able to stop me before I do any real damage to my frame. > YOu have notice how week their structures are, like most of them > that just hit something like a telephone pole will break in half: > http://www.wreckedexotics.com/newphotos/bad/bad095.shtml The Fourth Generation Camaro's an import, too: http://www.musclecarclub.com/musclecars/chevrolet-camaro/chevrolet-camaro-histor y-4.shtml God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ > That top one is a Camaro isn't it ? > > Dave Milne, Scotland > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ must be missing the point - where does it say that ? Dave Milne, Scotland '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ > The Fourth Generation Camaro's an import, too: http://www.musclecarclub.com/musclecars/chevrolet-camaro/chevrolet-camaro-histor y-4.shtml > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Dave Milne, Scotland > > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ What point were you trying to make? That is has a frame? It doesn't. Made in America? It's not. God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ > must be missing the point - where does it say that ? > > Dave Milne, Scotland > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ I didn't see the bit where it says it was an import. Where were Camaros made ? They were a US design weren't they ? Dave Milne, Scotland '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ > What point were you trying to make? That is has a frame? It > doesn't. Made in America? It's not. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Dave Milne, Scotland > > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ Quebec Canada wasn't it? /Peter > I didn't see the bit where it says it was an import. Where were Camaros made > ? They were a US design weren't they ? [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > > Dave Milne, Scotland > > > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ I really have no idea - I'd always assumed they were US built. Dave Milne, Scotland '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ > Quebec Canada wasn't it? > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > > > Dave Milne, Scotland > > > > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ > Nope - a typical unmodified Wrangler is around 3500 pounds. The > typical compact sedan is around 3200 pounds, with the larger sedans > pushing 4000 or more, so in reality they are pretty equally matched in > mass. My Subaru Outback actually outweighs my TJ. > Equal weights colliding, one with crumple zones and one with tub on a > steel frame - guess which one is safer for the occupants? Not to mention a high CG, if the crash is at any sort of angle. > Have you ever looked at pics of old wrecked cars? They had thick steel > bodies, no crumple zones and no seat belts. Usually the front end was > tweaked a little and the left side of the windshield is gone from the > driver being thrown forward and killed. With all of the impact force transmitted to the occupants, rather than absorbed by the vehicle. Except in the real world. your Subaru crumple zones are what absorbs the rigidly of the TJ frame bring it's occupants slowly to a stop with our bumper in the deceased Subaru's passengers mouths. God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ > My Subaru Outback actually outweighs my TJ. > > Not to mention a high CG, if the crash is at any sort of angle. > > With all of the impact force transmitted to the occupants, rather than > absorbed by the vehicle. With triplets, he'll need a trailer to haul the diaper bag. Won't matter though. He won't be able to afford to put gas in it - problem solved! > A friend's wife is about to have triplets (no joke). We can't figure > out how to get the whole family in his Wrangler. He thinks he may > have to sell it. SignatureWill Honea I guess you didn't see Gallagher's show: http://www.comediansusa.com/celebs/gallagher.html where he makes an analogy of his new bably girl and a boat anchor in diapers he's holding. God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ > With triplets, he'll need a trailer to haul the diaper bag. Won't > matter though. He won't be able to afford to put gas in it - problem > solved! > A friend's wife is about to have triplets (no joke). We can't figure > out how to get the whole family in his Wrangler. He thinks he may > have to sell it. i fail to undertand why there is a problem. car seat in the passenger seat. two car seats in the back seat. mom behind the back seat, holding the groceries if necessary. situation under control. maybe THEN she'll understand why that new Unlimited is calling. :-) martin caskey millers island, maryland I realize you're kidding us, by suggesting a car seat on the passenger front seat. I think that's been against the law for over ten years here in Kalifornia. God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ > i fail to undertand why there is a problem. car seat in the passenger > seat. two car seats in the back seat. mom behind the back seat, holding [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > martin caskey > millers island, maryland That can't be right. The new chevy trucks come with a key that will allow the driver to disable the air bags allowing child seats in the front passenger. I understand that if you order a wrangler without a rear seat DC is required to put a similar switch in as well. > I realize you're kidding us, by suggesting a car seat on the > passenger front seat. I think that's been against the law for over ten [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >> martin caskey >> millers island, maryland There are exceptions. I believe Daimler stopped offering the disconnect switch installation for litigious reasons: http://www.daimlerchrysler.ca/EN/JEEP/PDF/tj_specs_05.pdf God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ > That can't be right. The new chevy trucks come with a key that will allow > the driver to disable the air bags allowing child seats in the front > passenger. I understand that if you order a wrangler without a rear seat DC > is required to put a similar switch in as well. I've got such a switch in my Canadian '02 Sport, and it came with a back seat. The switch is handy for when I take my son along, leaving the back seat at home. /Peter > That can't be right. The new chevy trucks come with a key that will allow > the driver to disable the air bags allowing child seats in the front [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > >> martin caskey > >> millers island, maryland Would the smokies in CA have issues with my 3 year old, in a car seat, in the front of my 83 CJ? No airbags to worry about. Along that topic, a sad topic. A few years back in a parking lot not far from home. A mom had her kid in a car seat, in the front, and accidently ran over a parking baricade (the short 6" type). Well it set off the air bag and nearly decapitated her child. It was a tramatic event for sure, who would think that would ever happen to "them". Air bags and kids don't mix for sure, so don't get me wrong when I want to put my kid in the front of a CJ. > I realize you're kidding us, by suggesting a car seat on the > passenger front seat. I think that's been against the law for over ten [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >> martin caskey >> millers island, maryland http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/hdbk/pgs46thru47.htm God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ > Would the smokies in CA have issues with my 3 year old, in a car seat, in > the front of my 83 CJ? No airbags to worry about. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > for sure, so don't get me wrong when I want to put my kid in the front of a > CJ. L.W.(ßill) Hughes III wrote: > I realize you're kidding us, by suggesting a car seat on the > passenger front seat. I think that's been against the law for over ten > years here in Kalifornia. Not if there's no back seat in many states. This is why Jeeps and pickups have passenger airbag disable switches. A baby seat can't be in a standard cab truck in CA? Barry that's what happens when we get old enough that our children are having children. my daughter would have thought of that, but i was oblivious. i guess pops isn't going to be taking his grandaughter on any road trips until he learns the current rules. ;-) L.W. Hughes III (ßill) wrote: > I realize you're kidding us, by suggesting a car seat on the > passenger front seat. I think that's been against the law for over ten [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > martin caskey > > millers island, maryland Well...the triplets used to being in tight quarters... > A friend's wife is about to have triplets (no joke). We can't figure > out how to get the whole family in his Wrangler. He thinks he may > have to sell it. Signature___________________________________________________________ tw 71 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5" 01 XJ Sport There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness." -- Dave Barry Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940 Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase') A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase, 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II. (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email) ___________________________________________________________ I think they will find that three car seats in a Wrangler is alot like 17 college kids in a VW. You can do it. Once. > A friend's wife is about to have triplets (no joke). We can't figure > out how to get the whole family in his Wrangler. He thinks he may > have to sell it. |
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